Arch Warhammer vs CA Ella the Word Weasel

[Smokedice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_32GGx6_DY

It's happening. Keep it up, tell your buds, post to more TW youtubers.

When you come to lock yet another one of my threads, all I have to say is thank you SO MUCH, CA Ella, this pushback against your own a-historical AND un-authentic ideleology would not have been possible without you. Much love from me to you!

[AriDeer]

Цитата допису Samtemdo8:

Цитата допису Icarus:

Money

And this gain them financial profit how?

Monetize your youtube video, views get cash. Get cash by generating controversy and attracting active like-minded people to the video. Have something like a squarespace deal or patreon which benefits from exposure and can get you money if youtube demonitizes you. Games and movies are easy targets since outrage is easy to generate.

This is a common thing on youtube.

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=3863342

He has a patreon (Which seems to have an inaccurate mission statement)

[M.I.B.]

From the female_character_culture_details_table:

chance to spawn (%) general

15 rom_Barbarian y y y
6 rom_Hellenistic n y y
6 rom_Roman n y y dk_female_family_duty

from the female_character_faction_details_table:

6 3c_palmyra y y y r2_sp_trait_all_negotiator
16 emp_egypt y y y r2_sp_trait_female_warrior
11 rom_ardiaei y y y
50 rom_kush y y y
11 rom_nabatea y y y
14 rom_ptolemaics y y y
11 rom_saba y y y

from the female_character_subculture_details_table:

13 y y y sc_rom_african_arabian
6 n y y sc_rom_carthaginian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_eastern dk_female_family_duty
13 y y y sc_rom_egyptian
6 n y y sc_rom_greek dk_female_family_duty
12 y y y sc_rom_numidian
7 n y y sc_rom_parthian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_pontic dk_female_family_duty

So the only ones with female generals are:

Barbarians ( 15 % Chance )
Ptolemaics (14 / 16 % Chance )
Ardiaei ( 11 % )
Kush (50 % )
Nabatea (11 %)
Saba (11%)
Desertnomads ( 13 % )
Numidians (12 %)

Every other rumour is bs.

[Shaman Chief Nyima]

Цитата допису Marcus_Iunius_Brutus:

From the female_character_culture_details_table:

chance to spawn (%) general

15 rom_Barbarian y y y
6 rom_Hellenistic n y y
6 rom_Roman n y y dk_female_family_duty

from the female_character_faction_details_table:

6 3c_palmyra y y y r2_sp_trait_all_negotiator
16 emp_egypt y y y r2_sp_trait_female_warrior
11 rom_ardiaei y y y
50 rom_kush y y y
11 rom_nabatea y y y
14 rom_ptolemaics y y y
11 rom_saba y y y

from the female_character_subculture_details_table:

13 y y y sc_rom_african_arabian
6 n y y sc_rom_carthaginian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_eastern dk_female_family_duty
13 y y y sc_rom_egyptian
6 n y y sc_rom_greek dk_female_family_duty
12 y y y sc_rom_numidian
7 n y y sc_rom_parthian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_pontic dk_female_family_duty

So the only ones with female generals are:

Barbarians ( 15 % Chance )
Ptolemaics (14 / 16 % Chance )
Ardiaei ( 11 % )
Kush (50 % )
Nabatea (11 %)
Saba (11%)
Desertnomads ( 13 % )
Numidians (12 %)

Everything other rumour is bs.

Oh my, this itself will actually help me in the near future. Thankies!

[Smokedice]

Цитата допису Marcus_Iunius_Brutus:

From the female_character_culture_details_table:

chance to spawn (%) general

15 rom_Barbarian y y y
6 rom_Hellenistic n y y
6 rom_Roman n y y dk_female_family_duty

from the female_character_faction_details_table:

6 3c_palmyra y y y r2_sp_trait_all_negotiator
16 emp_egypt y y y r2_sp_trait_female_warrior
11 rom_ardiaei y y y
50 rom_kush y y y
11 rom_nabatea y y y
14 rom_ptolemaics y y y
11 rom_saba y y y

from the female_character_subculture_details_table:

13 y y y sc_rom_african_arabian
6 n y y sc_rom_carthaginian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_eastern dk_female_family_duty
13 y y y sc_rom_egyptian
6 n y y sc_rom_greek dk_female_family_duty
12 y y y sc_rom_numidian
7 n y y sc_rom_parthian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_pontic dk_female_family_duty

So the only ones with female generals are:

Barbarians ( 15 % Chance )
Ptolemaics (14 / 16 % Chance )
Ardiaei ( 11 % )
Kush (50 % )
Nabatea (11 %)
Saba (11%)
Desertnomads ( 13 % )
Numidians (12 %)

Everything other rumour is bs.

the number of factions and percentages of female generals are WAY too high to be historically accurate or "authentic"

[Argronok0]

Цитата допису Rawfire:

Цитата допису Marcus_Iunius_Brutus:

From the female_character_culture_details_table:

chance to spawn (%) general

15 rom_Barbarian y y y
6 rom_Hellenistic n y y
6 rom_Roman n y y dk_female_family_duty

from the female_character_faction_details_table:

6 3c_palmyra y y y r2_sp_trait_all_negotiator
16 emp_egypt y y y r2_sp_trait_female_warrior
11 rom_ardiaei y y y
50 rom_kush y y y
11 rom_nabatea y y y
14 rom_ptolemaics y y y
11 rom_saba y y y

from the female_character_subculture_details_table:

13 y y y sc_rom_african_arabian
6 n y y sc_rom_carthaginian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_eastern dk_female_family_duty
13 y y y sc_rom_egyptian
6 n y y sc_rom_greek dk_female_family_duty
12 y y y sc_rom_numidian
7 n y y sc_rom_parthian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_pontic dk_female_family_duty

So the only ones with female generals are:

Barbarians ( 15 % Chance )
Ptolemaics (14 / 16 % Chance )
Ardiaei ( 11 % )
Kush (50 % )
Nabatea (11 %)
Saba (11%)
Desertnomads ( 13 % )
Numidians (12 %)

Everything other rumour is bs.

the number of factions and percentages of female generals are WAY too high to be historically accurate or "authentic"

Amazing that we live in an age where 10% is considered too high.

Only Kush is an exception.

[AriDeer]

Цитата допису Samtemdo8:

Цитата допису Rawfire:

the number of factions and percentages of female generals are WAY too high to be historically accurate or "authentic"

Amazing that we live in an age where 10% is considered too high.

Only Kush is an exception.

Kush has a faction trait for it based on one of their warrior queens

[Welsh Dragon]

Цитата допису Marcus_Iunius_Brutus:

From the female_character_culture_details_table:

chance to spawn (%) general

15 rom_Barbarian y y y
6 rom_Hellenistic n y y
6 rom_Roman n y y dk_female_family_duty

from the female_character_faction_details_table:

6 3c_palmyra y y y r2_sp_trait_all_negotiator
16 emp_egypt y y y r2_sp_trait_female_warrior
11 rom_ardiaei y y y
50 rom_kush y y y
11 rom_nabatea y y y
14 rom_ptolemaics y y y
11 rom_saba y y y

from the female_character_subculture_details_table:

13 y y y sc_rom_african_arabian
6 n y y sc_rom_carthaginian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_eastern dk_female_family_duty
13 y y y sc_rom_egyptian
6 n y y sc_rom_greek dk_female_family_duty
12 y y y sc_rom_numidian
7 n y y sc_rom_parthian dk_female_family_duty
6 n y y sc_rom_pontic dk_female_family_duty

So the only ones with female generals are:

Barbarians ( 15 % Chance )
Ptolemaics (14 / 16 % Chance )
Ardiaei ( 11 % )
Kush (50 % )
Nabatea (11 %)
Saba (11%)
Desertnomads ( 13 % )
Numidians (12 %)

Everything other rumour is bs.

Thanks Marcus. That's really useful and good to have some specific figures to draw upon.

Just to add.

In the current patch, there are basically 4 main sources of new characters, not including agent actions and techs in certain campaigns (e.g. Mark Anthoney in CiG.)

1. New candidates spawning. (See spawn rates above.)

2. Events. Random events which the player gets (and I think I don't, but not sure,) where you can choose either to get a new female character or a different bonus. This one was also in Patch 19.

3. Marriage. As both husband and wife are now separate individual characters, rather than one spouse just being a card on the other's household, this one has lead to an increase in characters of both genders. When loading a legacy save, this can cause a large influx of characters of one gender or the other.

4. Births. Random chance each turn of a couple where the women is under 50 having a child, though the chance is modified by age, traits, and if that couple have reached the cap (which I believe is 5 living kids per couple.) The male to female ratio of the children born is I think 50/50, but that's a guesstimate.

I wonder if it's the combination of these and random chance which is leading to the most extreme cases some are citing.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

[M.I.B.]

I do a quick research about female generals:

Cartimandua.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartimandua

Bouddica.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/boudicca.shtml

Teuta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teuta

Adea (Eurydice II)

<i class="Italic">Eurydice's birth name appears to have been Adea[1]; the sources are silent on when it was changed to Eurydice. She was brought up by her mother Cynane, and seems to have been trained by her mother in masculine and martial exercises.

...

But the death of Antipater in 319 BC, the more feeble character of Polyperchon, who succeeded him as regent, and the failure of his enterprises in Greece, and above all, the favourable disposition he evinced towards Olympias, determined her again to take an active part: she concluded an alliance with Cassander, and, as he was wholly occupied with the affairs of Greece, she herself assembled an army and took the field in person. </i>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurydice_II_of_Macedon

Audata

<i class="Italic">Audata not only maintained an Illyrian identity in a Macedonian context but also passed that identity to her daughter and granddaughter.[4] Illyrian women led armies in battle, a skill that Audata taught her only child, her daughter Cynane.</i>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audata

The Ptolemaic Queens led also very often armies, example Cleo and her sisters.

[zzman305]

Цитата допису Samtemdo8:

Цитата допису Fewnmeyer:

it looked like this, before being cropped.
https://us.v-cdn.net/5022456/uploads/editor/hg/t9lzyikhemhu.png

It was a mid game save, loaded post patch. Not a bug as such, more a result of the generation of the family tree and the way the poster had played up to that point. If you look at the screen shot you can see a male candidate in the porthole, plus arrows either side.

The cropped version has been used in videos and articles, social media posts, etc, to push the false claim that "the recent patch" has forced everyone to use female generals, in every faction.
In fact people have been posting reviews on steam, outright lying that "half my roman generals are now women". The articles doing the rounds also claim that "darker skin tones have appeared in all factions", because why not claim that?

Jumping on the bandwagon are youtube videos and what not, all seeking clicks, likes, re tweets etc. The result is the sudden surge of badly misinformed posters over the last 30 odd hours.

But the question is, why? What do these people gain for making false information on this game?

Subscribers and a false sense of righteousness.

[M.I.B.]

Цитата допису Welsh Dragon:

In the current patch, there are basically 4 main sources of new characters, not including agent actions and techs in certain campaigns (e.g. Mark Anthoney in CiG.)

1. New candidates spawning. (See spawn rates above.)

2. Events. Random events which the player gets (and I think I don't, but not sure,) where you can choose either to get a new female character or a different bonus. This one was also in Patch 19.

3. Marriage. As both husband and wife are now separate individual characters, rather than one spouse just being a card on the other's household, this one has lead to an increase in characters of both genders. When loading a legacy save, this can cause a large influx of characters of one gender or the other.

4. Births. Random chance each turn of a couple where the women is under 50 having a child, though the chance is modified by age, traits, and if that couple have reached the cap (which I believe is 5 living kids per couple.) The male to female ratio of the children born is I think 50/50, but that's a guesstimate.

I wonder if it's the combination of these and random chance which is leading to the most extreme cases some are citing.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

But nobody force you to field your married wife with kids as general, if your faction can field female generals.

Simply don´t exploit it. ;)

[rincewind]

Woah... I had read some of the comments of the youtube video.

It's some kind of Neo-Nazi community or something? Because when you speak of exterminate people because don't share your ideology... well, that's very facist.

[76561198089744614]

Name just five (credible sources or BTFO) actual female generals that really existed during the period and in the places covered by the game, just five, actual generals, and there needs to be at least two Romans

[Welsh Dragon]

Цитата допису Marcus_Iunius_Brutus:

Цитата допису Welsh Dragon:

In the current patch, there are basically 4 main sources of new characters, not including agent actions and techs in certain campaigns (e.g. Mark Anthoney in CiG.)

1. New candidates spawning. (See spawn rates above.)

2. Events. Random events which the player gets (and I think I don't, but not sure,) where you can choose either to get a new female character or a different bonus. This one was also in Patch 19.

3. Marriage. As both husband and wife are now separate individual characters, rather than one spouse just being a card on the other's household, this one has lead to an increase in characters of both genders. When loading a legacy save, this can cause a large influx of characters of one gender or the other.

4. Births. Random chance each turn of a couple where the women is under 50 having a child, though the chance is modified by age, traits, and if that couple have reached the cap (which I believe is 5 living kids per couple.) The male to female ratio of the children born is I think 50/50, but that's a guesstimate.

I wonder if it's the combination of these and random chance which is leading to the most extreme cases some are citing.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

But nobody force you to field your married wife with kids as general, if your faction can field female generals.

Simply don´t exploit it. ;)

Very true.

All the Best,

Welsh Dragon.

[rincewind]

Цитата допису Chad McChad:

Name just five (credible sources or BTFO) actual female generals that really existed during the period and in the places covered by the game, just five, actual generals, and there needs to be at least two Romans

First. Video game. You don't need to be full historical.
Second. The Romans can't have female generals. (Maybe except some rare event, of course).

[Wraith]

romans can't have female general at all lol