Roman Historical Expansion

[Scipio Africanvs]

So I'm redoing my chapter objectives mod and I concluded that the roman expansion using the game map would look like this if it were historically accurate. Anyone care to give feedback? See anything you disagree or know better? (remember: main chapter missions are completed last on each chapter, not first). Thanks in advance.

Chapter 1: Control Magna Graecia

• Samnite, Etruscan and Pyrrhic Wars (298-275 BC): Control Italia.
  
• First Punic War (264-241 BC): Control Lilybaeum.
  
• Mercenary War (240-238 BC): Control Corsica Et Sardinia.
  
• First Illyrian War (229-228 BC): Control Apollonia, Epidamnos.

Chapter 2: Control Illyria

• Siege of Syracuse (214-212 BC): Control Magna Graecia.
  
• Second Punic War (218-201 BC): Control Tarraco, Αrse, Qart Hadasht, Gadira.
  
• Gallic Wars (225-192 BC): Control Cisalpina.
  
• First Celtiberian War (181-179 BC): Control Baetica.

Chapter 3: Control Lusitania

• Third Illyrian War (169-167 BC): Control Illyria.
  
• Fourth Macedonian War (150-148 BC): Control Macedonia.
  
• Third Punic War (149-146 BC): Raze or Sack Carthago.
  
• Achaean War (146 BC): Control Athenai, Sparta.

Chapter 4: Control Africa

• Numentine\Second Celtiberian War (154-133 BC): Control Lusitania.
  
• Numentine\Second Celtiberian War (154-133 BC): Control Brigantium, Numantia.
  
• Bequeathal of Pergamon to Rome (133 BC): Control Pergamon, Pessinus, Ephesus.
  
• Quintus Caecilius Metellus Balearicus (123 BC): Control Cartaginensis.
  
• Tolosa Allies With Rome (121 BC): Control Tolosa.

Chapter 5: Control Bithynia et Pontus

• Jugurthine War (112-105 BC): Control Africa.
  
• Marian Reforms (107 BC): Research technology Cohort Organisation.
  
• Bequeathal of Cyrene to Rome (96 BC): Control Cyrene.

Chapter 6: Control Octuduron

• Third Mithridatic War (73-63 BC): Contrrol Bithynia et Pontus, Galatia Et Cappadocia, Bosporus, Caucasia.
  
• Pompey in the East (64-63 BC): Control Antioch, Tyros, Jerusalem.
  
• Lex Gabinia (64-58 BC): Control Cilicia, Hellas.

Chapter 7: Control Mauretania

• Caesar vs The Helveti (58 BC): Control Octuduron.
  
• Gallic Wars (59-51 BC): Control Belgica, Germania Minor, Celtica, Aquitania.
  
• Caesar In Britain (55-54 BC): Control At Least 1 Settlement In Britannia.
  
• Siege of Massilia (49 BC): Control Provincia.
  
• Sack Of Rhodes (43 BC): Control Asia.
  
• Conquest Of Palmyra (41 BC): Control Palmyra.

Chapter 8: Control Thracia

• Mauretania a client kingdom (33 BC): Control Mauretania.
  
• Final War of the Roman Republic (32-30 BC): Control Libya, Aegyptos.
  
• Marcus Licinius Crassus' Balkan Campaigns (29 BC): Control Segestica, Singidun, Navissos.
  
• Cantabrian Wars (29-19 BC): Control Tarraconensis.
  
• Augustus (27 BC): Establish An Empire.
  
• Germanic Battles (16-11 BC): Control Raetia et Noricum, Pannonia.

Chapter 9: Control Armenia, Caucasia, Mesopotamia

• Annexation of The Thracian kingdom (46 AD): Control Thracia.
  
• Roman conquest of Britain (43-96 AD): Control Britannia.
  
• First And Second Dacian Wars (101-106 AD): Control Dacia.
  
• Annexation of the Nabatean kingdom (106 AD): Control Nabataea.
  
• Occupation Of Dura Europos (114 AD): Control Syria.

[MANWHATADONGA]

CA should hire this guy

[Scipio Africanvs]

Originally posted by donaldclarke1:

CA should hire this guy

Thanks man, I take it that you like the mods haha!

[Blue Knight™]

Love this, but maybe come up with some other names then just "Control italia" just to spice it up

[Scipio Africanvs]

Originally posted by Blue Knight™:

Love this, but maybe come up with some other names then just "Control italia" just to spice it up

But the purpose isn't to spice up the missions but to have them as a guide of how the real romans expanded, in case you want to follow the same exact path. No reason to have missions like "subjugate carthage" etc because it's not guaranteed that in-game carthage will even exist at turn x or will occupy the historical territory.

[Scipio Africanvs]

By the way, I finished editing:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1196269754

[Blue Knight™]

Originally posted by Scipio Africanvs:

Originally posted by Blue Knight™:

Love this, but maybe come up with some other names then just "Control italia" just to spice it up

But the purpose isn't to spice up the missions but to have them as a guide of how the real romans expanded, in case you want to follow the same exact path. No reason to have missions like "subjugate carthage" etc because it's not guaranteed that in-game carthage will even exist at turn x or will occupy the historical territory.

thats all good my dude, still good work!

[Scipio Africanvs]

Originally posted by Blue Knight™:

Originally posted by Scipio Africanvs:

But the purpose isn't to spice up the missions but to have them as a guide of how the real romans expanded, in case you want to follow the same exact path. No reason to have missions like "subjugate carthage" etc because it's not guaranteed that in-game carthage will even exist at turn x or will occupy the historical territory.

thats all good my dude, still good work!

thanks man

[Harper]

Scipio, You are very detail oriented and I agree with DonaldClarke1. Thanks for your efforts, and I will through subject headers and compare to Wikipedia, but don't expect any major findings, as you are very thorough. Thanks for all your great contributions to the community. Highest regards, Harper

[Scipio Africanvs]

Originally posted by Harper:

Scipio, You are very detail oriented and I agree with DonaldClarke1. Thanks for your efforts, and I will through subject headers and compare to Wikipedia, but don't expect any major findings, as you are very thorough. Thanks for all your great contributions to the community. Highest regards, Harper

I appreciate it, thank you Harper

[Harper]

Scipio, I found following Roman History Timeline in Wikipedia. R, Harper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Roman_history

Comments in progress:
(Chapter 1) Etruscan Wars: There were multiple wars between Rome and Etruria with 1st in the 8th centry BC, and last two in 310 and 283 BC.
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[Scipio Africanvs]

Originally posted by Harper:

Scipio, I found following Roman History Timeline in Wikipedia. R, Harper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Roman_history

Comments in progress:
(Chapter 1) Etruscan War began in 508 BC
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Wow I hadn't found that one! Awesome link, thanks!

[Harper]

Scipio, Glad to help and will continue comments today / tommorrow. R, Harper

Comments in progress:
Chapter 1:
(1) Objective: Control central and southern Italia.
Etruscan Wars: There were multiple wars between Rome and Etruria with 1st in the 8th centry BC, and last two in 310 and 283 BC. So your 1st time range of 298 to 275 BC covers the last war.

Samnite Wars: The 3rd Samnite War was 298 to 290 BC, within your time range.

Pyrrhic War: 280 to 275 BC, within your time range.

Comments: In southern Itallia and Sicily, but not Epirus. Carthage offers Rome assistance in Sicily.

(2) Objective: Control Sicily and Africa
1st Punic War: 264 to 241 BC, matches your time range.

Comment: Rome gains majority of Sicily, but is repelled in Africa.

(3) Objective: Control Libya, Sardinia, and Corsica
Mercenary War: 240 to 238 BC, matches your time range.

Comment: What starts out as mercenary rebellions against Carthage in Libya and Sardinia, ends with Carthage crushing the rebellions; initially with Roman support but later Rome annexes Corsica and Sardinia, when Carthage is in a weakened state at end of the rebellions.

(4) Objective: Control Epidamnos and Apollonia, et al cities.
1st Illyrian Wars: 229 to 228 BC, matches your time range.

Comment: Rome sets up Demetrius of Pharos as client king as rival to Queen Teuta of Ardiaei.

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[Harper]

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Chapter 2: Control Illyria, Sicily

(1) Siege of Syracuse (214-212 BC): Control Magna Graecia.

Comments: (a) With conquest of Syracuse (former ally during 1st Punic War), Rome controls entire island of Sicily. (b) There are several unique siege tools that Rome deployed: "...These included the sambuca, a floating siege tower with grappling hooks, as well as ship-mounted scaling ladders that were lowered with pulleys onto the city walls...." (c) Carthage attempted to provide relief to Syracuse (former enemy) during the Roman siege.

(2) Second Punic War (218-201 BC): Control Tarraco, Αrse (Saguntum), Qart Hadasht (Carthago Nova), Gadira.

Comments: (a) Saguntum (Roman Iberian ally) falls to Carthage in 219 BC, but war not officially declared by Rome until 218 BC. (b) Carthage invades northern Italy via trek across Gaul and Alpes), with assistance from Gallic allies (Boii and Insubres). (c) After several early Carthaginian victories in Itally, part of Rome's Italian allies defect to support Carthage. Syracuse and Macedon also declare support for Carthage. (d) In latter stages of war, Rome defeated Carthage in Spain and Italy. (e) Rome defeats Carthage in Africa, forcing Carthage to become client state of ROme. (f) Rome defeats Macedon during 1st Macedonian War (eastern Mediterannean and Ionian Seas).

(3) Gallic Wars (225-192 BC): Control Cisalpina.

Comments: There were several wars between Rome and the Cisalpine Gauls, with last beginning after Rome drove Carthage from Italy in 202 BC and ended in 192 BC.

(4) First Celtiberian War (181-179 BC): Control Baetica.

Comments: (a) With defeat of Carthage in Hispania, Rome took over Carthaginian regions of Hispania Citerior and Hispania Ulterior; which ultimately led to conflict between Rome and neighbouring Celtiberian tribes. (b) The Celtiberians were a confederation of tribes: the Pellendones, the Arevaci, the Lusones, the Titti and the Belli.

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[Scipio Africanvs]

Originally posted by Harper:

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Chapter 2: Control Illyria, Sicily

(1) Siege of Syracuse (214-212 BC): Control Magna Graecia.

Comments: (a) With conquest of Syracuse (former ally during 1st Punic War), Rome controls entire island of Sicily. (b) There are several unique siege tools that Rome deployed: "...These included the sambuca, a floating siege tower with grappling hooks, as well as ship-mounted scaling ladders that were lowered with pulleys onto the city walls...." (c) Carthage attempted to provide relief to Syracuse (former enemy) during the Roman siege.

(2) Second Punic War (218-201 BC): Control Tarraco, Αrse (Saguntum), Qart Hadasht (Carthago Nova), Gadira.

Comments: (a) Saguntum (Roman Iberian ally) falls to Carthage in 219 BC, but war not officially declared by Rome until 218 BC. (b) Carthage invades northern Italy via trek across Gaul and Alpes), with assistance from Gallic allies (Boii and Insubres). (c) After several early Carthaginian victories in Itally, part of Rome's Italian allies defect to support Carthage. Syracuse and Macedon also declare support for Carthage. (d) In latter stages of war, Rome defeated Carthage in Spain and Italy. (e) Rome defeats Carthage in Africa, forcing Carthage to become client state of ROme. (f) Rome defeats Macedon during 1st Macedonian War (eastern Mediterannean and Ionian Seas).

(3) Gallic Wars (225-192 BC): Control Cisalpina.

Comments: There were several wars between Rome and the Cisalpine Gauls, with last beginning after Rome drove Carthage from Italy in 202 BC and ended in 192 BC.

(4) First Celtiberian War (181-179 BC): Control Baetica.

Comments: (a) With defeat of Carthage in Hispania, Rome took over Carthaginian regions of Hispania Citerior and Hispania Ulterior; which ultimately led to conflict between Rome and neighbouring Celtiberian tribes. (b) The Celtiberians were a confederation of tribes: the Pellendones, the Arevaci, the Lusones, the Titti and the Belli.

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Harper, there is no reason to comment on every mission, I already have read the history. I really appreciate what you are doing, but I hate to see you being put through that for helping me. If you just pointed out any errors of mine that would be enough man, really!

[Harper]

Scipio, Thanks for clarification. R, Harper