Alien: Isolation

Alien: Isolation

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Sea Prince Gillywix 2023 年 4 月 13 日 下午 2:53
This may seem like a dumb question, but..
Why does the alien kill people? This game is my introduction to the franchise. Never watched the movies. I've played through the entire game though. I never actually see the alien consuming the prey it kills. Could it just be territorial or does it just enjoy killing for the fun of it?
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mr nasty 2023 年 4 月 18 日 下午 7:12 
引用自 sam
One other thing, if you've not seen Prometheus then there's another part to the story. The way I interpreted the film was that humans were an experiment that had outlived it's usefulness and the aliens were sent to wipe out the remaining living humans. A perfect race created the perfect killing machine to wipe out it's mistakes (more or less).

Except David is the one that created the Xenomorph, not the Engineers. At least, not these specific ones.
The engineers created the "Black Goo", but the Neomorphs are created by hosts ingesting the puff spores. David combined these two into the resulting Xenomorphs we all know and love.

You're absolutely right about them wanting to wipe the humans though, as in the book Alien: Bloodlines says: "When organic species grow arrogant enough to travel the stars...They find it waiting (black goo aka Chemical A0-3959X.91 – 15). "Prometheus' cleansing fire." The fire that keeps the universe clean...Of parasites like you."
―Iris Humphries

There's actually a mural of a Xenomorph in Prometheus, proving they existed long before David. Probably a Xenomorph in its purest form. I think the Engineers worshipped them as some sort of angels of death.
Sam 2023 年 4 月 19 日 下午 6:37 
引用自 z7
引用自 sam

Except David is the one that created the Xenomorph, not the Engineers. At least, not these specific ones.
The engineers created the "Black Goo", but the Neomorphs are created by hosts ingesting the puff spores. David combined these two into the resulting Xenomorphs we all know and love.

You're absolutely right about them wanting to wipe the humans though, as in the book Alien: Bloodlines says: "When organic species grow arrogant enough to travel the stars...They find it waiting (black goo aka Chemical A0-3959X.91 – 15). "Prometheus' cleansing fire." The fire that keeps the universe clean...Of parasites like you."
―Iris Humphries

There's actually a mural of a Xenomorph in Prometheus, proving they existed long before David. Probably a Xenomorph in its purest form. I think the Engineers worshipped them as some sort of angels of death.

True, but that is not the same alien that we get. David has been trying to recreate it, however not the same. But that's just semantics, you are right that a certain type of xenos were there before David
TamTroll 2023 年 4 月 21 日 下午 12:54 
Xenomorphs probably eat their prey, we just don't see it.

There have been a few cases of a xenomorph pulling a corpse into a vent or something. probably dragging it somewhere else to eat later or share with the hive.

And i respectfully choose to ignore Prometheus and covinent's existence. I'm sorry, but the Xenomorphs are just more interesting when they have zero connections to humans in their origin. Having Humans being responsible for their existence just makes it feel like the universe revolves around Humans, and makes the story feel smaller as a result.

Either the Xenomorphs evolved naturally on some super hostile planet, or they were made by non-human aliens. Don't care which, just so long as they weren't made by humans or human made androids.
最后由 TamTroll 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 21 日 下午 12:57
Sea Prince Gillywix 2023 年 4 月 21 日 下午 2:05 
引用自 TamTroll
Xenomorphs probably eat their prey, we just don't see it.

There have been a few cases of a xenomorph pulling a corpse into a vent or something. probably dragging it somewhere else to eat later or share with the hive.

And i respectfully choose to ignore Prometheus and covinent's existence. I'm sorry, but the Xenomorphs are just more interesting when they have zero connections to humans in their origin. Having Humans being responsible for their existence just makes it feel like the universe revolves around Humans, and makes the story feel smaller as a result.

Either the Xenomorphs evolved naturally on some super hostile planet, or they were made by non-human aliens. Don't care which, just so long as they weren't made by humans or human made androids.

I like the idea of them evolving naturally on a super hostile planet, then a super intelligent race came by, tampered with their genes a bit and made them even more deadly.
Dayve 2023 年 4 月 21 日 下午 2:17 
引用自 Sea Prince Gillywix
引用自 TamTroll
Xenomorphs probably eat their prey, we just don't see it.

There have been a few cases of a xenomorph pulling a corpse into a vent or something. probably dragging it somewhere else to eat later or share with the hive.

And i respectfully choose to ignore Prometheus and covinent's existence. I'm sorry, but the Xenomorphs are just more interesting when they have zero connections to humans in their origin. Having Humans being responsible for their existence just makes it feel like the universe revolves around Humans, and makes the story feel smaller as a result.

Either the Xenomorphs evolved naturally on some super hostile planet, or they were made by non-human aliens. Don't care which, just so long as they weren't made by humans or human made androids.

I like the idea of them evolving naturally on a super hostile planet, then a super intelligent race came by, tampered with their genes a bit and made them even more deadly.

Exactly. The super intelligent race is us (Weyland Yutani are obsessed with capturing and experimenting with the aliens to turn them into weapons), and LV-426 is the hostile planet we find them on. I like to think they evolved there, exterminated all other life on the planet, then went into hibernation until the mysterious explorer landed (or crash landed) there and got facehugged, with the aliens making a nice cosy nest in his ship's cargohold, just waiting for the day when another will arrive.
TamTroll 2023 年 4 月 21 日 下午 7:04 
引用自 Sea Prince Gillywix
I like the idea of them evolving naturally on a super hostile planet, then a super intelligent race came by, tampered with their genes a bit and made them even more deadly.

My personal favorite is just they evolved naturally and were then just taken to be used as weapons by the engineers / space jokeys. Like, what they're at now is just their natural state.

i like to think this is because their planet is just covered in other creatures just as tough and dangerous as they are, probably tough enough to survive a chestburster popping out of their stomach or something.




引用自 Dayve
Exactly. The super intelligent race is us (Weyland Yutani are obsessed with capturing and experimenting with the aliens to turn them into weapons), and LV-426 is the hostile planet we find them on. I like to think they evolved there, exterminated all other life on the planet, then went into hibernation until the mysterious explorer landed (or crash landed) there and got facehugged, with the aliens making a nice cosy nest in his ship's cargohold, just waiting for the day when another will arrive.

Okay but that's like... SUPER boring. you see how that's boring right? It shrinks the universe and makes everything suddenly revolve around humans for no reason.

If aliens evolve on their own or are modified by other aliens: This means that life exists beyond humanity in the stars. there are other stories being told in other locations. you've got the ancestors of the Xenomorphs, the homeworld of their creators, the reason the creators created them in the first place, what other species were wiped out as a direct result of the aliens being used by these aliens. what other species could possibly exist on a xenomorph homeworld to allow for the Xenomorphs to exist without causing total devistation to the ecyosystep. So many interesting and undiscovered things that just make the world feel BIG and EXPANSIVE and INTERESTING!


"Humans made the Xenomorphs" is just more boring "humans are everything" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The story is just "HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS" ad infinum. That's been done! it's been told! Give us something fresh and new! If Xenomrophs were made by humans, you're not telling us the story of "Aliens", you're telling us the story of "The Atom bomb".
Sea Prince Gillywix 2023 年 4 月 21 日 下午 7:24 
引用自 TamTroll
引用自 Sea Prince Gillywix
I like the idea of them evolving naturally on a super hostile planet, then a super intelligent race came by, tampered with their genes a bit and made them even more deadly.

My personal favorite is just they evolved naturally and were then just taken to be used as weapons by the engineers / space jokeys. Like, what they're at now is just their natural state.

i like to think this is because their planet is just covered in other creatures just as tough and dangerous as they are, probably tough enough to survive a chestburster popping out of their stomach or something.




引用自 Dayve
Exactly. The super intelligent race is us (Weyland Yutani are obsessed with capturing and experimenting with the aliens to turn them into weapons), and LV-426 is the hostile planet we find them on. I like to think they evolved there, exterminated all other life on the planet, then went into hibernation until the mysterious explorer landed (or crash landed) there and got facehugged, with the aliens making a nice cosy nest in his ship's cargohold, just waiting for the day when another will arrive.

Okay but that's like... SUPER boring. you see how that's boring right? It shrinks the universe and makes everything suddenly revolve around humans for no reason.

If aliens evolve on their own or are modified by other aliens: This means that life exists beyond humanity in the stars. there are other stories being told in other locations. you've got the ancestors of the Xenomorphs, the homeworld of their creators, the reason the creators created them in the first place, what other species were wiped out as a direct result of the aliens being used by these aliens. what other species could possibly exist on a xenomorph homeworld to allow for the Xenomorphs to exist without causing total devistation to the ecyosystep. So many interesting and undiscovered things that just make the world feel BIG and EXPANSIVE and INTERESTING!


"Humans made the Xenomorphs" is just more boring "humans are everything" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. The story is just "HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS HUMANS" ad infinum. That's been done! it's been told! Give us something fresh and new! If Xenomrophs were made by humans, you're not telling us the story of "Aliens", you're telling us the story of "The Atom bomb".

Accepting the canon is not a requirement for any game really. At least for single player games, people can come up with their own lore and rationalization for things and just pretend thats how it is. Sometimes writers and developers make bad story decisions.
Viperstar 2023 年 4 月 23 日 下午 1:33 
引用自 Dayve
引用自 Sea Prince Gillywix
Why does the alien kill people? This game is my introduction to the franchise. Never watched the movies. I've played through the entire game though. I never actually see the alien consuming the prey it kills. Could it just be territorial or does it just enjoy killing for the fun of it?

Basically it's their instinct to exterminate all other lifeforms that aren't them. They don't always kill just for the sake of killing though, sometimes it's to protect their nest where their "babies" are. They also need humans to procreate. You saw their nest in the game. They need to implant an embryo into a human (or some other suitable lifeform) to grow their tribe.

As for whether they eat their prey... I don't think it's known. They were never seen eating their prey in Alien or Aliens (the two movies that matter since everyone agrees they're the best). In Alien 3 there's a brief scene where the alien APPEARS to be eating someone it killed but it's not certain... it might have just been having fun tearing a fresh kill apart.

Also if this is really your introduction to the franchise then I highly recommend watching Alien and Aliens. If you enjoyed the game then you'll get a kick out of how much you recognise (especially the first movie, Alien, which this game is a sequel to and was based upon). The developers did a truly amazing job of keeping this game faithful to the feel of the first movie. They're also two of the best sci-fi movies ever made, two of the best horror movies ever made, and two of the best movies ever made in general. Alien 3 is hit and miss, you either like it or you don't, I personally always liked it. You can skip all other Alien films though (Resurrection, the Alien Versus Predator movies, Prometheus and Covenant). They're all awful. And when I say awful I mean their only value in this world is the memes people make about how awful they are. They're as bad as The Matrix sequels were.

very well explained!
Adriael 2023 年 4 月 23 日 下午 3:03 
Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 Assembly Cut as was already said is everything one needs :)
TamTroll 2023 年 4 月 24 日 上午 7:27 
Say what you will about it, i do think Aliens Vs Predators is worth a watch, if only because it shows the two franchises duking it out, and adds some interesting lore to the predators. I don't think it's canon to the alien franchise, but it's left ambiguous enough that i think it could be.

Requiem can be skipped if you want too though.
最后由 TamTroll 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 24 日 上午 7:28
Dayve 2023 年 4 月 24 日 下午 2:28 
引用自 TamTroll
Say what you will about it, i do think Aliens Vs Predators is worth a watch, if only because it shows the two franchises duking it out, and adds some interesting lore to the predators. I don't think it's canon to the alien franchise, but it's left ambiguous enough that i think it could be.

Requiem can be skipped if you want too though.

I think Predator 1 and 2 gave us all we really needed to know.

Space warriors who come to earth to hunt dangerous animals and human beings as a rite of passage. Have some kind of moral code where they don't kill unarmed people or pregnant women, and some kind of ethical code where they detonate a small nuclear device to vapourize themselves if they are mortally wounded to stop their advanced technology falling into human hands where they'll use it to destroy one another.
Dead Pixel 2023 年 5 月 22 日 下午 6:46 
The Alien vs Predator films were Hollywood drivel. Mindless action films for the lowest common denominator. Awful films.
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