Aliens in space?!

[MilitantOldMatt]

Ok, how in the hell do the aliens survive in space?
Last time i checked, they have to breathe.
What did the game makers take when they thought of this ♥♥♥♥?!

[Cable Salad]

Publicado originalmente por Kelset:

Divers that use oxigen tanks and come back to surface from the depths too fast and not decompressing right have a similar issue to the one you could have in deep vacuum.
Problem in vaccum in space is temperature wich is gonna probably freeze you in seconds and the overall internal pressure that is gonna cause strokes and gas embolisms. (the gasses present in our blood "sparkle" since we don't only carry oxigen)

Anyways Alien is a story with Aliens that kill humans using a piston mouth and they breed bursting the chests of their hosts. Giger's art always have been very sexual oriented with a pinch of sadism and cyber organic style and who knows him as an artist exactly knows what I mean. ANd also know that he was absolutely disappointed of the movies besides the first one because he considered them as a misleading use of his art view.

Don't waste time asking why an alien could survive for how long in vacuum.

Well, since cold-blooded animals won't freeze instantly in vacuum, why should a human? Yes, it's inhumanely cold but that's nothing your body can't handle for a short period of time.

Your circulatory system is closed from the environment, so it won't be directly affected. Your skin offers sufficient protection, unless it's severely damaged. Exchange only happens in your lungs and even there the vacuum has an extremely limited influence on whatever happens in your blood.



Your last sentence is probably the best advice in this thread. Far too many people with limited knowledge arguing about an imaginary creature. Some want to explain things with common sense, science and laws of nature while others want to believe in space magic. Since we're talking about a creature that's never going to exist outside stories/movies/media we'll never find out who is right and who is wrong, so it's quite pointless debating about it, tbh.

All I can say is I certainly wouldn't let the alien suddenly do things it didn't do in the movie this game is based on. Yes, it's science fiction but if you go crazy on the fiction part the imbalance will make observant people, who have profound knowledge about the science part of sci-fi question the situation. IMHO the very least thing you want in a sci-fi survival horror environment is your audience go "WTF, that's impossible/ridiculous." or "Now that doesn't make sense." or that they start laughing about the bull you just made. Just saying...

[Specter189]

You do realize, that you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about an alien organism that hatches and eats its way ouf ot living beings, has a second mouth that can extend with enough force to punch all the way through a head wearing a helmet. Has a neck that can in no way actually support its head, has no eyes, yet can "see" people, and has acid for blood.

Breathing in space doesn't seem too far fetched given its other abilites

[DOOM SLAYER]

Publicado originalmente por MattTheGrunt:

Ok, how in the hell do the aliens survive in space?
Last time i checked, they have to breathe.
What did the game makers take when they thought of this ♥♥♥♥?!

they not using o2

[SGT_117]

Publicado originalmente por MattTheGrunt:

Alien: alien gets blown into space and dies.

Technically speaking we don't know if it actually dies from lack of an atmosphere. All we know is that being in a vacuum with nothing to push off of meant that once momentum got it going away from the shuttle, there wasn't any way for it to get back on (same for the Queen in Aliens).


I should note that Isolation isn't pulling the idea of that Alien being able to survive vacuum out of its ass. In the 1979 Alien novel/Script/deleted scene they actually talk about trying to kill it on the Nostromo by venting all the air out of the ship room by room. They nix this plan when they realize they aren't exactly sure IF the alien even needs an atmosphere to survive.


It's not all that crazy when you think about a few facts from Alien (which was Isolation's primary inspiration, not a couple decades worth of crappy tie ins).

1. The eggs/facehugger can survive on LV426 (Nitrogen atmosphere)
2. The Xenomorph is NOT native to LV426 (meaning it was likely evolved/created in some unknown environment)
3. The Chestburster/Drone can survive/flourish on the Nostromo (Oxygen atmosphere)


Frankly that's wide enough range of environments that the Xenomorph can flourish in, that it makes the whole "Creatures needs air!" claim seem to be on somewhat shakey grounds.


Explosive decompression is another concern. OTOH, their bodies somehow being sealed/designed to survive in vacuums for at least somewhat extended lengths of time is frankly more biologically believeable than them having super acid for blood.

[SgtSprinkles]

The xenomorph CAN survive in the vaccum of space but only for short periods. Time they can survive hasnt been established.

[RIOT|Stalkermaster]

Spoilers!

[-Dirt-]

How has noone brought up the notion that the xenomporphs hold their breath....? It's a biologicaly engineered, silcone based life form... so it's not a far stretch to assume it can hold its' breath for an extended period.

Also, to assume the main purpose of jettisoning the xeno out an airlock is simply to kill it... is illinformed. The main purpose is get it away from you! Noone knows how long a xeno can survive in a vacuum but considering they can survive molten lead momentarily, it's probably a while.


Seeing the xeno in a vacuum for a few minutes and hypothetically assuming it's native to that environment to support the claim that the game is ♥♥♥♥ because they breath.... is a narrow minded and incorrect assumption.

Making loose, aggressvie assumptions on a topic in which there is little detailed information is immature.

How do we know xenos even have any significant blood pressure that would cause damaging outward pressure on thier exoskeleton in a vacuum? If there is no significant pressure, then simply holding its' breath is the only main concern the xeno would have. Furthermore, xeno blood is GREEN so we have no idea how it retains oxygen; probably better than iron carrying, red blood considering the engineers made the human race and then the xeno to exterminate... a general "upgrade" would be plausable.

[Barraka Frite]

Publicado originalmente por Specter189:

You do realize, that you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about an alien organism that hatches and eats its way ouf ot living beings, has a second mouth that can extend with enough force to punch all the way through a head wearing a helmet. Has a neck that can in no way actually support its head, has no eyes, yet can "see" people, and has acid for blood.

Breathing in space doesn't seem too far fetched given its other abilites

This.

[Powellinho.72]

Publicado originalmente por Specter189:

You do realize, that you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about an alien organism that hatches and eats its way ouf ot living beings, has a second mouth that can extend with enough force to punch all the way through a head wearing a helmet. Has a neck that can in no way actually support its head, has no eyes, yet can "see" people, and has acid for blood.

Breathing in space doesn't seem too far fetched given its other abilites

READ THIS MATTTHEGRUNT

+1 lol

[IndigoRaptor]

Publicado originalmente por Specter189:

You do realize, that you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about an alien organism that hatches and eats its way ouf ot living beings, has a second mouth that can extend with enough force to punch all the way through a head wearing a helmet. Has a neck that can in no way actually support its head, has no eyes, yet can "see" people, and has acid for blood.

Breathing in space doesn't seem too far fetched given its other abilites

I think this concludes the debate.

[76561198150731533]

Publicado originalmente por MattTheGrunt:

Ok, how in the hell do the aliens survive in space?
Last time i checked, they have to breathe.
What did the game makers take when they thought of this ♥♥♥♥?!

It's the perfect organism and adapts to its surroundings.

[Panther]

sure the alien is alive after being sucked out into space in the movie, it freezes it doesnt sufficate, or am I remembering that wrong?

[Bru741iX]

Publicado originalmente por Panther:

sure the alien is alive after being sucked out into space in the movie, it freezes it doesnt sufficate, or am I remembering that wrong?

No, it's burned alive in the thruster of the escape shuttle. ;)

[ramyland_maelstrom]

Is this still going on....LOL...people cant seem to grasp the word FICTION like in not REAL....like i can imagine WT_ i want in my mind and translate that on paper , screen , game !!!!

[B_L_C_Bob]

Actually, I haven't read the rest of the thread so I don't know if it has been mentioned before, the Alien has the perfect metabolism. In one of the books, outlining the films and the thought process into the Alien, they do in fact breathe, but like an amphibian can go for long periods on very little oxygen by slow breathing. They can also survive extended periods without food or fluids, one of the things that make them the perfect survivor and has been described as the ultimate 'Extremeophile'.

Excuse any errors in my post, I'm recovering from sedation atm.