Is the weyland utani corp evil or beneficial?

[Unseen]

Based on different canons I mean, as there is dark horse canon, movies, predator which I dunno how that fits at all.. But according to old darkhorse canon the corporation isn't as evil as people would think from the film series. All we see is how they deal with the alien and the people involved, which appears to be very evil, even over the top evil as the game AVP and movie resurrection established. Basically using people as breeding and kill sacks for the aliens.
Which imo is stretching it a lot, as most modern companies can't even get away with giving their workers low wages, and society doesn't even execute killers anymore. But eh maybe its all done in secret I dunno.

But according to darkhorse canon, weyland corp not only cured cancer, aids, solved world hunger, and pacified the earth to stop all wars, they also employed and fed millions and openly take part in terraforming. So my question, are the extremes in the alien series done to ripley and others, enough to dismiss all the good things weyland corp did? I mean we are talking about a very real and practical messiah. Curing the worst diseases, ending war, solving poverty and famine. Humanity according to these accomplishments would have a lot to be gracious towards them. So do the ends justify the means, are millions more important than the suffering of a few?

And yea I know about the earth alien wars, and all the rest of the horror that came with weyland corps tampering. I think that the weyland company use to be more benevolent but kind of lost its mind when it came to the xenos. Which I never really understood. I really would not, as a company, want to try and use uncontrollable acid ants as a weapon.

[Dayve]

Weyland-Yutani are so big in the future that they've become more powerful than governments and they have their hand in every aspect of... everything. So, W-Y is probably more like an umbrella corporation. Your space-haulage company is bankrupt? No problem, sell it to W-Y, they inject some cash in to it, they own it now, you continue to run it the same as before but now it has their name on it and they're your boss.

So when W-Y buy Sevastopol and re-programme the Working Joes to protect the alien and kill all the humans, that's obviously an evil thing, but it's also probably only a certain department of W-Y doing it. The branch of W-Y that runs the healthcare system on earth would probably be as disgusted and horrified about it as we are... but they also probably don't even get told it's happening.

Edit - in case it isn't clear what I'm trying to say here, what I mean is that Weyland-Yutani might actually be 10,000 different independent corporations who all operate under the umbrella name of Weyland-Yutani. The department doing the nasty alien stuff might not even be under the control of the president of Weyland-Yutani.

[Unseen]

Ah so its really more about the different divisions of the utani corp. I remember in the game AVP weyland saying he owns the military cause he owns the weapons. But I think that, the continuity has been majorly convoluted and confused in this franchise. Which it shouldn't be cause this is based on real life and our own future. Its like retconing startrek it doesn't work to well like what they did to ST Discovery which most fans can agree is terrible. I sometimes think fan bashing is unfair and usually missjudged like the new starwars which I actually enjoy. But discovery, it really is garbage and its cause its made ST into something its not.

With alien, its not that the stories suck, its that its ultra confused. Resurrection for example, wait ripley is brought back with all her old memories? Gimme a break, same with cov and pro. Cause before them, in the first AVP movie, we are told the predators were farming aliens for hunts since ancient times. Now its engineers and weyland who got the xenos started. So the xenos are a new species? And not the ancient one the predator canon hinted at?

And with regards to the comics, that's really confusing to me. Especially newt, in the 80s comics newt lived and grew to be a badass warrior. In Alien3 which came later she just dies. Nothing even event full she's just dead on arrival, so is hicks. So the problem with alien continuity is its always changing its own story, which makes it hard to really know whats going on.

But in regards to Weyland utani as a corporation, some of it has been a little over the top. The stuff in AVP, resurrection etc, feeding your company workers to aliens just to test how they bite people... Well sometimes the series is smart and realistic, other times its felt like a typical 80s exploitation film with simple violent shock factor. It translates to some pretty cool alien scenes, but makes little sense realistically to me.

[Dayve]

Yeah, the WY corp is an unrealistic comic book villain in the comic books and AvP games. They're just straight up evil who feed their own employees and scientists to aliens.

In this game they're more realistic.

[Unseen]

Originally posted by Dayve:

Yeah, the WY corp is an unrealistic comic book villain in the comic books and AvP games. They're just straight up evil who feed their own employees and scientists to aliens.

In this game they're more realistic.

Yea the storyline isn't bad in this, its more a problem everyone acknowledges in different ways. Even marlow who I kinda think means right, but its extremely suicidal.. I don't see sacrifice as a way to solve anything, as you're dead, never to come back again. Granted he wanted to do it for society and humanity, and that is respectable.. But that girl is still dead, ripley would of been dead too.. Not really a nice thing to do to people regardless the outcome, humanity could find other ways to combat the alien. And pretending they don't exist only puts the threat in the hands of someone else, eventually.

I prefer 1-3 and even pro and cov weren't so over the top with how evil they were. Hell weyland became a victim himself in pro.

[Wampa_Stompa]

curing cancer and aids is evil.

[Dayve]

Originally posted by Unseen:

Originally posted by Dayve:

Yeah, the WY corp is an unrealistic comic book villain in the comic books and AvP games. They're just straight up evil who feed their own employees and scientists to aliens.

In this game they're more realistic.

Yea the storyline isn't bad in this, its more a problem everyone acknowledges in different ways. Even marlow who I kinda think means right, but its extremely suicidal.. I don't see sacrifice as a way to solve anything, as you're dead, never to come back again. Granted he wanted to do it for society and humanity, and that is respectable.. But that girl is still dead, ripley would of been dead too.. Not really a nice thing to do to people regardless the outcome, humanity could find other ways to combat the alien. And pretending they don't exist only puts the threat in the hands of someone else, eventually.

I prefer 1-3 and even pro and cov weren't so over the top with how evil they were. Hell weyland became a victim himself in pro.

Marlow isn't mentally healthy during this game. His wife died because of his decisions. He's the captain of the Anesidora, he sought out the distress signal, he took them to the Derelict, etc. So he's depressed that his wife died, depressed that he's kind of responsible for her death, depressed that so many other people have died from the alien he brought to Sevastopol, and now angry that W-Y are trying to profit off it all.

The dude ain't right.