Who laid the eggs?

[Thorn]

There's no queen alien onboard so how did face hugger eggs get laid all over the place? In Allens, E. Ripley confronts the queen alien as she's laying eggs from her ovipositor and then proceeds to destroy the eggs right in front of the queen just to make her angry. Think she blows the queen alien's ovipositor off too. But the queen alien was huge compared to the alien drones. Who fertilizes the eggs? The male drones? And how can you tell a male from a female alien?

[Cannonball]

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

The queen has already been confirmed

I haven't heard about it. So, let's link to the Official source or don't invent nonsenve.

Alien: Isolation - is a tribute to the first film. And no queens in it. There is only cool egg morphing.

[XΞИOΛLIΞИ]

The workers/warriors carying the eggs around is obvious. A nice theory for the queen and egg morphing to work together is if a worker is quarantined, when he is the only one left at a confined place, like what happened on the nostromo, the worker has the ability to morph a lifeform(human) into an egg

[RpgBlaster]

We dont see alien queen because that was censored
because in aliens 2 movie hellen ripley shot and break penis of alien queen :) xD

[-|Nur|-]

Eggmorphing is probably extremely resource taxing. The alien was dying by the end of the first film, having crawled into that tiny space aboard the Narcissus. At most the technique can keep the cycle going but obviously cannot create a large hive with many aliens and eggs; if it could, why have a queen in the first place?

[XΞИOΛLIΞИ]

Originally posted by EGSFE Rpg Blaster Rpg:

We dont see alien queen because that was censored
because in aliens 2 movie hellen ripley shot and break penis of alien queen :) xD

There is no "aliens 2"

Alien
Aliens
Alien³
Alien Resurrection

hellen ripley

It's 'Ellen Ripley'

shot and break penis of alien queen

Ellen Ripley destroyed the egg sack and the queen detached it, females in any kind of species usually don't have a penis... Unless they are hermaphrodites

We dont see alien queen because that was censored
because in aliens 2 movie

You do realize this game is basically a direct sequel to the first Alien movie right? It's around 15 years after the Nostromo exploded and around 42 years BEFORE the second Alien movie 'Aliens'.

*Edit*
You were the one posting 'yes' in the topic about this game needing a predator... it all makes sense now... -_-

[RpgBlaster]

:P
http://www.memecenter.com/tag/i%20like%20penis
Yes :P

[XΞИOΛLIΞИ]

Originally posted by EGSFE Rpg Blaster Rpg:

:P
http://www.memecenter.com/tag/i%20like%20penis
Yes :P

You do realize that the word penis is censored here and your link doesn't work right? Oh right, you don't.

[RpgBlaster]

Originally posted by TRIT0N:

Originally posted by EGSFE Rpg Blaster Rpg:

:P
http://www.memecenter.com/tag/i%20like%20penis
Yes :P

You do realize that the word penis is censored here and your link doesn't work right? Oh right, you don't.

Of couse you dont :P

[Purity+Control<]

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

Originally posted by B.Page:

No queen in this game at all, the eggs are all over the place, in large areas and even ventilation ducts, places impossible for a queen to reach and lay eggs into.

They went with the Alien1 theory; any alien can make eggs through some weird process.

The big nest and all those eggs weren't made via eggmorphing. Maybe that's how the nest initially started; the first drone created a new queen via eggmorphing (like bees can create a queen bee at will), but that's as far as it goes. The queen has already been confirmed so this shouldn't even be debated. The eggs are all over the place because the aliens carry them around. (You think the queen in Aliens laid the egg intended for Newt right there where she was hanging from a wall? Of course not; it was carried to that spot by the workers.)

No, aliens don't carry eggs around, they kidnap live victims to be implanted and bring them to the hive, you can see it in the movies and other games. You clearly have poor knowledge of the subject and no idea what you're talking about. The queen may have been confirmed by a dev, but he's an idiot for suggesting it because he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Simple drones laid those eggs everywhere around the station. The hive was made because they needed a creepy reactor level, nothing else. Bad writing that's all.

[Purity+Control<]

Originally posted by TRIT0N:

The workers/warriors carying the eggs around is obvious. A nice theory for the queen and egg morphing to work together is if a worker is quarantined, when he is the only one left at a confined place, like what happened on the nostromo, the worker has the ability to morph a lifeform(human) into an egg

Thats not how aliens work. See above.

[XΞИOΛLIΞИ]

Originally posted by B.Page:

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

The big nest and all those eggs weren't made via eggmorphing. Maybe that's how the nest initially started; the first drone created a new queen via eggmorphing (like bees can create a queen bee at will), but that's as far as it goes. The queen has already been confirmed so this shouldn't even be debated. The eggs are all over the place because the aliens carry them around. (You think the queen in Aliens laid the egg intended for Newt right there where she was hanging from a wall? Of course not; it was carried to that spot by the workers.)

No, aliens don't carry eggs around, they kidnap live victims to be implanted and bring them to the hive, you can see it in the movies and other games. You clearly have poor knowledge of the subject and no idea what you're talking about. The queen may have been confirmed by a dev, but he's an idiot for suggesting it because he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Simple drones laid those eggs everywhere around the station. The hive was made because they needed a creepy reactor level, nothing else. Bad writing that's all.

lol no the "Aliens" movie theory is warriors don't "lay" eggs, you need an eggsack for that, only a queen can grow an eggsack. The eggs in the movie Aliens are everywhere around the nest while the queen is sitting at the exact same spot laying those eggs right next to each other, they don't just magically drop everywhere around the nest, the warriors take them and put them right in front of the cocooned victims. The queen can't move around with the eggsack, if she brakes lose like she did at the ending of Aliens, she will have to grow another one.

The "Alien" movie theory is there is no queen, the alien can cocoon his victims and morph them into an egg, you can clearly see this in the deleted scene that was put back in the directors cut

If the dev said there was a queen involved, then the game could go by the Aliens theory just fine, but imo since this game should be true to the first Alien movie, they should not even mention a queen and certainly not have a queen in the game, which it did.

So going by the Alien theory is, the aliens kill some victims, just like the alien in the movie killed parker and lambert, but keeps some victims alive to morph them into an egg.

[XΞИOΛLIΞИ]

To be more clear, warriors NEVER lay eggs, they either:

- Get the eggs from the queen and move them around the nest to all the spots where victims have been cocooned. This would be the 'Aliens' movie theory

Or

- There is no queen and the aliens simply morph their victims into eggs, this is the 'Alien' movie theory

This is 100% clear in both movies.

Now what i'm simply suggesting is a theory on how these 2 theories could work together:

Like i said:

A nice theory for the queen and egg morphing to work together is if a worker is quarantined, when he is the only one left at a confined place, like what happened on the nostromo, the worker has the ability to morph a lifeform(human) into an egg

[Atlantis]

this may help,
Cocooning is a trait used by Xenomorphs to reproduce quickly. A human, or any other creature, if dragged away, would have a cocoon of saliva and resin placed over them (their face left free), usually in an area where the Queen has produced a large quantity of eggs, so that the Facehuggers are able to latch onto them easily and deposit a Xenomorph larva in their chest. In a cut scene in Alien (included in the Special Edition), Ripley found two of her cocooned colleagues actually being turned into Xenomorph eggs. This suggests that Xenomorphs can convert humans into eggs when there is no queen, although this may have been scrapped as many other features of the Xenomorphs were in later movies (such as the transparent skulls and empty eye sockets). In the book, it's described how the drones are able to implant a fetus in up to four hosts, thereby creating enough drones and warriors to start a hive with.

Another feature of cocooning as seen in the game Aliens Vs. Predator 3 is that the Xenomorph Number Six, after entering and cocooning its victims, can change its appearance, eventually becoming a queen itself. This rapid genetic regeneration is also another evolutionary trait of the Xenomorph to ensure its very survival as a species. In Alien vs. Predators: Extinction the praetorian acted as a princess of the hive who then became the queen. This stage is seen with Number Six. If this is so, then Hudson is correct with them being like bees. The Xenomorph Queen can lay specialized eggs that are bigger (like queen egg cells in bees which are bigger than drone cells) that upon hatching can carry on the species through making other hives after the new female cocoons into a queen, as seen with Number Six and the aliens of Aliens vs. Predators: Extinction. If this is the case though, that a drone can become a queen when no queen is present, then cocooning is also a method of survival for the Xenomorph species.

[-|Nur|-]

Originally posted by B.Page:

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

The big nest and all those eggs weren't made via eggmorphing. Maybe that's how the nest initially started; the first drone created a new queen via eggmorphing (like bees can create a queen bee at will), but that's as far as it goes. The queen has already been confirmed so this shouldn't even be debated. The eggs are all over the place because the aliens carry them around. (You think the queen in Aliens laid the egg intended for Newt right there where she was hanging from a wall? Of course not; it was carried to that spot by the workers.)

No, aliens don't carry eggs around, they kidnap live victims to be implanted and bring them to the hive, you can see it in the movies and other games. You clearly have poor knowledge of the subject and no idea what you're talking about. The queen may have been confirmed by a dev, but he's an idiot for suggesting it because he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about either.

Simple drones laid those eggs everywhere around the station. The hive was made because they needed a creepy reactor level, nothing else. Bad writing that's all.

Lol, so how do you think the eggs in Aliens got moved next to the hosts then? The queen carried them herself?

Drones cannot create that many eggs let alone an entire hive in such a short time. A lone drone uses eggmorphing when there's no queen around to keep the cycle going; then he dies. There's no potential for growth without a queen.

The only one guilty of bad writing here is you.

[Berserk Belta]

Not every xenocreature is necessarily a space bee per Aliens. Its complex biology and reproductive cycle may even be changeable from one situation/generation/specimen to the next even if you just take Alien+Aliens, Alien+Prometheus or Alien+Aliens+Prom as canon. Add any of the other films and it becomes almost incontrovertible.

The creature's capacities, drives, feeding and reproduction are obviously meant to keep us guessing, so I wouldn't try to apply arbitrary rules to it. As long as it makes sense coming after Alien we're good, and that film makes a point of ambiguity and mystery.