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CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 7:38am

Confused about 1970's era in sci-fi game

I was born in 1975 so seeing magazines with 1970's artwork, audiocasettes ( which went out of style in the late 1980's, in favour of compact discs ) and especially the Captain's purple clothing was jarring.

I'm a sci-fi fan and it's been a while since I watched the original Alien movie ( I didn't like it compared to James Cameron's vision in Aliens ).

The original Alien movie came from a guy living in the 1970's, trying to imagine what the future would be like. The clunkiness and art direction came as a curse of living in the 1970's, so I have a hard time understanding the overt references to the 1970's in mission 1 ?

As an example, take a look of the semiotics pictures:

http://typesetinthefuture.com/alien/

Last edited by CryonicSuspension; Dec 30, 2015 @ 7:42am

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CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 7:44am

People weren't reading 70's style magazines, listening to audiocasettes or wearing 70's clothing in Alien. I'm pretty sure of that.

I added a link to my original post, check out the semiotics.

CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 7:47am

Wow... what retarded art direction:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/214490/discussions/0/496880503059026522/

Janichsan

Dec 30, 2015 @ 10:35am

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
People weren't reading 70's style magazines, listening to audiocasettes or wearing 70's clothing in Alien. I'm pretty sure of that.

You should watch that movie again. The clothing is quite 1970's style (though not garishly so), there might not be audiocassettes, but other 1970's style tape machines are visible (for the Nostrum's computer), as are a lot of other 1970's appliances (e.g. a coffee maker), and there are not only 1970's style pin-ups plastered to the wall of the crew's quarters, but Ash also tries to suffocate Ripley with a 1970's style magazine.

CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 10:39am

No thanks. The movie was almost as awful as Blade Runner. Yes... I read the book.

CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 10:41am

Originally posted by Janichsan:
Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
People weren't reading 70's style magazines, listening to audiocasettes or wearing 70's clothing in Alien. I'm pretty sure of that.
You should watch that movie again. The clothing is quite 1970's style (though not garishly so), there might not be audiocassettes, but other 1970's style tape machines are visible (for the Nostrum's computer), as are a lot of other 1970's appliances (e.g. a coffee maker), and there are not only 1970's style pin-ups plastered to the wall of the crew's quarters, but Ash also tries to suffocate Ripley with a 1970's style magazine.

What?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vt-IHALprVo/T1KKvWJhQOI/AAAAAAAABHw/XorZaodnnb8/s1600/alienripley2.jpg

-|Nur|-

Dec 30, 2015 @ 10:52am

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
No thanks. The movie was almost as awful as Blade Runner. Yes... I read the book.

What the..

DecrepitDragon has Alien: Isolation

Dec 30, 2015 @ 11:14am

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:
Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
No thanks. The movie was almost as awful as Blade Runner. Yes... I read the book.

What the..

...actual fornicate?

My thoughts exactly. "Hey guys, d'ya know those classic sci-fi greats you love? Let's talk about how bad they were, shall we?"

Um, no. I think not.

μCeph

Dec 30, 2015 @ 11:52am

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
No thanks. The movie was almost as awful as Blade Runner. Yes... I read the book.

Both Alien and Blade Runner were amazing movies. You just have poort taste.

CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 12:03pm

Originally posted by DecrepitDragon:
Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

What the..
...actual fornicate?

My thoughts exactly. "Hey guys, d'ya know those classic sci-fi greats you love? Let's talk about how bad they were, shall we?"

Um, no. I think not.

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=define%20fornicate

huh ?

DecrepitDragon has Alien: Isolation

Dec 30, 2015 @ 12:08pm

Yup. Confirmed troll.

A guy who reviews dozens of games, seems to do nothing but play said games, and is well aware of how to polarise opinions and increase his post count, suddenly can't explain himself without external links to Google?

Again, I say - Um, no. Try harder.

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CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 12:12pm

I hate to be the one to point this out but typing "... actual fornicate" after what I wrote doesn't follow the rules of English grammar and makes zero ♥♥♥♥♥♥* sense?

What does a bunch of turds derailing my thread have anything to do with post count?

Nice try doging the, "so are you an ESL student, a retar* or both?"

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CryonicSuspension Dec 30, 2015 @ 12:16pm

Originally posted by CølonelAdmiralGeneralDr.Carsøn:
Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
No thanks. The movie was almost as awful as Blade Runner. Yes... I read the book.
Both Alien and Blade Runner were amazing movies. You just have poort taste.

I know that you are most likely not old enough to be able to appreciate this but Philip K. ♥♥♥♥ was horrified at how bad Blade Runner was ( compared to the source material ). I'll leave it up to you to fill in the blanks because I guess tanking in the box office wasn't obvious enough of a clue but whatever...

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DecrepitDragon has Alien: Isolation

Dec 30, 2015 @ 12:32pm

Oh look, more drivel designed to annoy and provoke. What was your original point again? That you didn't follow the use of the 70's styling?

Ok, so that's your opinion, and that's absolutely fine of course, but semiotics was what you based your link on. That link was also more interested in fonts and faults than filmography, though there was a small section comparing Alien to older, more futuristic looking films.

The 70's designs was a choice, based on many factors, and for many, it works. Not for you apparently, I'm sure the director will be upset but you can't please everybody.

How does semiotics figure into any of that? That's a genuine question by the way.

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DecrepitDragon has Alien: Isolation

Dec 30, 2015 @ 2:25pm

Originally posted by CryonicSuspension:
Originally posted by CølonelAdmiralGeneralDr.Carsøn:
Both Alien and Blade Runner were amazing movies. You just have poort taste.

I know that you are most likely not old enough to be able to appreciate this but Philip K. ♥♥♥♥ was horrified at how bad Blade Runner was ( compared to the source material ). I'll leave it up to you to fill in the blanks because I guess tanking in the box office wasn't obvious enough of a clue but whatever...

I think you may be blurring the truth there also. Let me quote from wiki (not always accurate I'll grant, but these quotes have citations) -

After ♥♥♥♥ criticized an early version of Hampton Fancher's script in an article written for the Los Angeles Select TV Guide, the studio sent ♥♥♥♥ the David Peoples' rewrite. Although ♥♥♥♥ died shortly before the film's release, he was pleased with the rewritten script, and with a 20-minute special effects test reel that was screened for him when he was invited to the studio. Despite his well known skepticism of Hollywood in principle, ♥♥♥♥ enthused to Ridley Scott that the world created for the film looked exactly as he had imagined it. He said, "I saw a segment of Douglas Trumbull's special effects for Blade Runner on the KNBC-TV news. I recognized it immediately. It was my own interior world. They caught it perfectly." He also approved of the film's script, saying, "After I finished reading the screenplay, I got the novel out and looked through it. The two reinforce each other, so that someone who started with the novel would enjoy the movie and someone who started with the movie would enjoy the novel."

So, he died without ever having seen the finished film apparently, but according to you he was "horrified" when he compared it to the source material?

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