Alien: Isolation

Alien: Isolation

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Barker Jun 19, 2017 @ 12:36pm
Where did that come from? (SPOILERS AHEAD)
Where did the second nest where Amanda gets webbed up in come from? Were some eggs from the reactor picked up and carry there? Did the queen escape the reactor and make a new nest there? Were they created by eggmorphing ala that deleted scene in the original film? Was the nest ALWAYS there and was intended to be used for backup purposes? Or was the reactor hive the REAL backup nest and the queen was at the second nest the whole time?
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-|Nur|- Jun 19, 2017 @ 1:19pm 
Maybe they were setting up franchises?
Andromeda Jun 23, 2017 @ 8:49pm 
There is a theory that everything after Amanda is abducted by one of the aliens is actually a dream fabricated by her mind while she's actually stuck in the nest with a facehugger. Personally, there is no doubt in my mind that at least at the point where Amanda randomly arrives on the ship with Verlaine, Amanda is not conscious.
Voxrox Jun 24, 2017 @ 4:29pm 
I read some novels (hence not "canon" ^^) back in the days, and it was often said inthose the Aliens indeed start to build other nests as "backup"

One such story had the Xenos infest Earth. And while at first mankind seemed to win, the Tac-Teams soon realized instead of large Mega-Nests that could be wiped out in a single strike, the Xenos adapted and created smaller nests among a larger area, making it almost impossible to eradicate the infestations - indeed Earth was effed after that reveal ^^

Again, not canon, and not much "adapting" time for the Xenos- But I think they started to spread the eggs prior to the purge already. Also not sure the entire nest was purged after all. And the Queen was still around for sure (the devs iirc indeed verified a Queen was on board, and the whole egg-morphing was not a thing...and hopefully never will until Ridley "Lucas" Scott makes it canon....)
Antti-san Jun 24, 2017 @ 4:53pm 
The way eggs suddenly pop up everywhere in the end feels a bit cheap (from a story not gameplay perspective). Why/how would the aliens move eggs to some hard to reach random crawlspace or into an elevator shaft?

Otherwise, the idea of a secondary nest/storage makes sense, considering how huge Sevastopol is. I think the place where Amanda wakes up had been there a while already, considering all the hive mass that was around.
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Barker Jun 26, 2017 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by Antti-san:
The way eggs suddenly pop up everywhere in the end feels a bit cheap (from a story not gameplay perspective). Why/how would the aliens move eggs to some hard to reach random crawlspace or into an elevator shaft?

Otherwise, the idea of a secondary nest/storage makes sense, considering how huge Sevastopol is. I think the place where Amanda wakes up had been there a while already, considering all the hive mass that was around.

As for your first question, that way it's harder to find them and destroy them.
Emmental Jun 26, 2017 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Joke's On You:
There is a theory that everything after Amanda is abducted by one of the aliens is actually a dream fabricated by her mind while she's actually stuck in the nest with a facehugger. Personally, there is no doubt in my mind that at least at the point where Amanda randomly arrives on the ship with Verlaine, Amanda is not conscious.
Barker Jul 4, 2017 @ 8:19pm 
Eggmorphing honestly makes sense to me in certain scenarios where a queen isn't present. How else is the Xenomorph going to continue on it's species? But of course eggmorphing would have it's downsides. Technically eggmorphing would result in less Xenomorphs than with a queen. Eggmorphing actually would require two humans (one to be eggmorphed and the other to be used as a host for the resulting facehugger). A queen would take the former out of the equation. Therefore, more Xenomorphs would come from a queen.
Sagit84 Jul 5, 2017 @ 12:54am 
Creators confirmed in one of the interviews that queen is there somwhere. We just didn't get to see her during the adventure. Her presence wil also destroy all the 1979 vibe the game has.

As for eggs showing radomly around the station after the reactor purge. Well I always believed that some of running xenos grab an egg or two and tried to establish a new nest. By purging the reactor Amanda probably killed the queen so drones are confused and try to re-establish the nest and breed a new queen.
It would be ironic that Amanda is the carrier of a new queen just as her mother was ultimately.
Barker Jul 6, 2017 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Sagit84:
Creators confirmed in one of the interviews that queen is there somwhere. We just didn't get to see her during the adventure. Her presence wil also destroy all the 1979 vibe the game has.

As for eggs showing radomly around the station after the reactor purge. Well I always believed that some of running xenos grab an egg or two and tried to establish a new nest. By purging the reactor Amanda probably killed the queen so drones are confused and try to re-establish the nest and breed a new queen.
It would be ironic that Amanda is the carrier of a new queen just as her mother was ultimately.

I'm pretty sure Amanda is not a carrier at all. Aliens stated that she lived until her mid-60's and died of cancer. Plus we are shown a photo of her as an old woman in the special edition.
Sagit84 Jul 6, 2017 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by blocka:
Originally posted by Sagit84:
Creators confirmed in one of the interviews that queen is there somwhere. We just didn't get to see her during the adventure. Her presence wil also destroy all the 1979 vibe the game has.

As for eggs showing radomly around the station after the reactor purge. Well I always believed that some of running xenos grab an egg or two and tried to establish a new nest. By purging the reactor Amanda probably killed the queen so drones are confused and try to re-establish the nest and breed a new queen.
It would be ironic that Amanda is the carrier of a new queen just as her mother was ultimately.

I'm pretty sure Amanda is not a carrier at all. Aliens stated that she lived until her mid-60's and died of cancer. Plus we are shown a photo of her as an old woman in the special edition.

We are shown a photo of elderly lady and information about her fate by a Burke. WY employee. They might not be telling the truth. I'm almost sure they do not because...well WY. The whole series is about them trying to get a live speciment. Story about Amanda in Aliens might just be created for Ripley so she'll be more distracted during the board hearing. They try to make her look crazy to discredit her in the event she went public with her story.
Amanda still could have died different way they tell us. And knowing them I'm pretty sure that was the case.
BROOD-SkorpioN Jul 7, 2017 @ 3:03am 
Originally posted by Sagit84:
Originally posted by blocka:

I'm pretty sure Amanda is not a carrier at all. Aliens stated that she lived until her mid-60's and died of cancer. Plus we are shown a photo of her as an old woman in the special edition.

We are shown a photo of elderly lady and information about her fate by a Burke. WY employee. They might not be telling the truth. I'm almost sure they do not because...well WY. The whole series is about them trying to get a live speciment. Story about Amanda in Aliens might just be created for Ripley so she'll be more distracted during the board hearing. They try to make her look crazy to discredit her in the event she went public with her story.
Amanda still could have died different way they tell us. And knowing them I'm pretty sure that was the case.
Weyland Yutani, and more specifically Burke, have no reason to lie to Ripley about Amanda. Also, the whole series is not about them trying to get a live specimen. In Aliens, Weyland Yutani is completely in the dark about the xenomorphs, while Burke alone tries to get it in order to obtain exclucive rights. When Burke tells Ripley about Amanda, he doesn't even know they exist yet. That board meeting would've played out exactly the same way with or without the Amanda story (which is why it was cut out of the film in the first place).
Sagit84 Jul 7, 2017 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by BROOD-SkorpioN:
Originally posted by Sagit84:

We are shown a photo of elderly lady and information about her fate by a Burke. WY employee. They might not be telling the truth. I'm almost sure they do not because...well WY. The whole series is about them trying to get a live speciment. Story about Amanda in Aliens might just be created for Ripley so she'll be more distracted during the board hearing. They try to make her look crazy to discredit her in the event she went public with her story.
Amanda still could have died different way they tell us. And knowing them I'm pretty sure that was the case.
Weyland Yutani, and more specifically Burke, have no reason to lie to Ripley about Amanda. Also, the whole series is not about them trying to get a live specimen. In Aliens, Weyland Yutani is completely in the dark about the xenomorphs, while Burke alone tries to get it in order to obtain exclucive rights. When Burke tells Ripley about Amanda, he doesn't even know they exist yet. That board meeting would've played out exactly the same way with or without the Amanda story (which is why it was cut out of the film in the first place).

I think you are mistaken. Aliens takes place on the same planet that WY picked the signal from and sent Ash in ALiEN 1979. They know all the time. They received signal from the colony as soon as ♥♥♥♥ hit the fan there. Only later in the outbrake when colony made their last stand the transponder went down. And we even not sure if it is true. It might be an excuse to send a marine detachement (actualy an escort for Burke). I'm telling you - they know. I've read somewhere that the entire colony was established just to find the derelic. And when you think about it, it makes sense. Handley Hope didn't produce anything, didn't mine anything all they did was build a colony, start terraforming process and sent teams into the westland on some mapping BS. Those teams were most important to WY - they had to eventually find derelic and whatever was inside.
BROOD-SkorpioN Jul 7, 2017 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by Sagit84:
I think you are mistaken. Aliens takes place on the same planet that WY picked the signal from and sent Ash in ALiEN 1979. They know all the time. They received signal from the colony as soon as ♥♥♥♥ hit the fan there.
WY didn't pick up the signal in the original Alien - the Nostromo did. They were just obligated to check it out. They didn't specifically send Ash for that, but rather had him follow a specific protocol designed for such cases (it makes no sense to specifically send a space truck to investigate if you already know you're dealing with an alien organism).

Originally posted by Sagit84:
Only later in the outbrake when colony made their last stand the transponder went down. And we even not sure if it is true. It might be an excuse to send a marine detachement (actualy an escort for Burke). I'm telling you - they know. I've read somewhere that the entire colony was established just to find the derelic. And when you think about it, it makes sense. Handley Hope didn't produce anything, didn't mine anything all they did was build a colony, start terraforming process and sent teams into the westland on some mapping BS. Those teams were most important to WY - they had to eventually find derelic and whatever was inside.
That's not how it went down at all. Burke was the one who told the colonists to investigate the crash site after hearing about it from Ripley. He's the only one who suspected she might be telling the truth, while the rest of the company heads dismissed her claims completely. When they lost contact with the colony, Burke had a single marine squad accompany him to LV-426 along with Ripley (who he brought over specifically because he already knew she was telling the truth) so that it would be easier for him to obtain a live specimen and later cover his whole operation up. If Weyland Yutani knew there was an alien outbreak on LV-426, they would've sent in more than a single marine squad led by a rookie officer.

To quote the film itself:

Burke: Look, those two specimens are worth millions to the bio-weapons division, right? Now, if you're smart, we can both come out of it as heroes, and we will be set up for life.
Ripley: You're crazy, Burke, you know that? You really think you can get a dangerous organism like that past ICC quarantine?
Burke: How can they impound it if they don't know about it?
Ripley: Oh, but they will know about it, Burke. From me. Just like they'll know that you were responsible for the deaths of 157 colonists!
Burke: Wait a second—
Ripley: You sent them to that ship!
Burke: You're wrong!
Ripley: I just checked the colony log, directive dated 6/12/79, signed Burke, Carter J. You sent them out there and you didn't even warn them! Why didn't you warn them, Burke?
Burke: Okay, look. What if that ship didn't even exist? Did you ever think about that? I didn't know! So now, if I went and made a major security situation out of it, everybody steps in. Administration steps in, and there are no exclusive rights for anybody; nobody wins. So I made a decision, and it was wrong. It was a bad call, Ripley. It was a bad call.
Ripley: Bad call? These people are dead, Burke! Don't you have any idea what you've done here? Well, I'm gonna make sure that they nail you right to the wall for this! You're not gonna sleaze your way out of this one! Right to the wall!
Burke: Ripley...! You know, I... I expected more from you. I thought you'd be smarter than this.
Ripley: I'm happy to disappoint you.
Partisan Jul 7, 2017 @ 10:34am 
Probably drones decided to evacuate the nest which was damaged under reactor core, that's why eggs are in air shafts and elsewhere. They are learning species, adapting to hostle enviroment, fighting for surival.
Barker Jul 13, 2017 @ 6:59pm 
There's another thing we need to consider. The facehuggers that are found around the station after you blow up the reactor. Did they come from the reactor nest, the second nest or both?

The facehuggers being escapees from the reactor nest makes plenty of sense. If the adult drones could make it out, there's no reason why some facehuggers couldn't either.

On the other hand, we need to consider the second nest. Take a closer look at it. There are only two cocooned corpses and dozens of opened eggs. In fact only three of the eggs (I counted) in that level are closed. This seems to imply that the facehuggers that are runing around the station are from THIS nest and NOT the reactor nest.

I'm also kinda starting to wonder if there are actually two queens on Sevastapol.
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