How come the alien doesn't kill the androids?

[MandyMayCry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr7Eja-xWUo

You'd think the alien would kill anything that moves...

[goka9696]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย cels:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย goka9696:

They could, but these in particular don't pose a threat to the Alien, at least at the moment. And since they can't be impregnated by the facehugger either, Xenomorph has no interest in them

Still doesn't make sense. The xenomorph may be the perfect creature, but it's not omniscient and it's not dumb enough to wait around for people to attack it before assuming they are a threat, because that wouldn't be smart against machines with guns. The xenomorph is a survivor, and it wouldn't survive very long in this universe by trial and error against civilizations with firearms.

It's just some artistic license, because it works with this particular setting and this particular story. It wouldn't work if Amanda Ripley had a droid from her own ship, which could just casually walk over to the xenomorph, carrying a shotgun or a pipebomb.

Alien doesn't see them as living creatures even. It doesn't attack computers on the station, it doesn't attack cleaning droids, and Joes are basically same for it. A moving machinery. It doesn't attack the fans in vents unless it has to get through. There is simply NO reason for Alien to attack Joes.

[entspeak]

Yep, it's primarily because androids aren't meat. I'd imagine they even look different to xenomorphs. Of course, if an android poses a threat or gets in the way - as Bishop did, then it's game on. The androids in Isolation never pose a threat or try to interfere.

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย MandyMayCry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr7Eja-xWUo

You'd think the alien would kill anything that moves...

because they have no use fro them so they ignore them they can not impregnate them nore can they eat them so they ignore them andi'm sure they dnont giv eout body heat so aliens just ignore them

[Rhodie Ranger]

Working Joes are basic androids. Bishop got damaged by the queen because he was in her way, so she attacked him. There are a lot of badly damages androids on sebastopol, so it's probably what happenned to them, too. Annalee Call was hunted because she is an auton, a much more advanced for of android, way more similar to an human, internally and externally.

[Khan, Binary of None]

There's many instance in which Androids are ignored by Xenomorphs, this is mostly due to the fact that they are a bioweapon designed to kill all organic life, and use it to replicate. Androids are purely synthetic and the Xenomorphs can see that clearly. If the Android poses a threat, they will obviously swiftly dispatch them but otherwise ignore them.

One instance I remember from the comics depicts a Marine Android who has lost his legs going to a terminal to send out a message while all the Marines around him are being slaughtered. He gets practically ignored the entire time even when he is sending the message, as the Xenomorphs just sort of watch him from behind.

[goka9696]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Duo Vandal:

There's many instance in which Androids are ignored by Xenomorphs, this is mostly due to the fact that they are a bioweapon designed to kill all organic life, and use it to replicate. Androids are purely synthetic and the Xenomorphs can see that clearly. If the Android poses a threat, they will obviously swiftly dispatch them but otherwise ignore them.

One instance I remember from the comics depicts a Marine Android who has lost his legs going to a terminal to send out a message while all the Marines around him are being slaughtered. He gets practically ignored the entire time even when he is sending the message, as the Xenomorphs just sort of watch him from behind.

What comic was that?

Sounds hilarious

[⥈]

I can only surmise that the alien is not attracted to a synthetic because it's not seeing it as a threat and/or sustainable biological material for food or reproduction purposes.
I can assume it can and will attack a synthetic if it's a threat or an obstacle.

[Skorpion]

Necro-posting with new point:

I agree with the OP and Tone, I think this ignorance doesn't make any sense, because the androids pose a threat on humans (!), their meals/babysitters, not on the Alien itself.
I would be definitely angry if somebody would touch my food in my fridge on a small island.

[DessIntress]

When it comes to food, dead people are enough. And as you can see from the hive, they had no problem catching people alive. Almost an entire station has already been used. In addition, people are also killed by Xenos because of the threat, so androids also help the Xenos when they kill them. (if you really want to get into that kind of thing)

Isn't it also a matter of convenience?
Something like: "Oh, how nice it would be if the alien had already killed all the enemies."

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Synthetic#Immunity_to_Xenomorphs

"Fortunately, the Aliens seem not to notice synthetics until they decide we're a threat." ―Bishop (from Alien: Bloodlines)

For example, in AFE the synths are attacked, but they in turn attack the Xenos. Even though, in detail, the game doesn't care who attacks first. It's all about shooting anyway, otherwise over 600 Xenos wouldn't die like goats with convulsions during mission 1.

[Defeye]

It's clearly stated - but not obvious - there is no nutritional value in an android (a non-living system): even in the first and only movie that counts toward that fact.

[Skorpion]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Defeye:

It's clearly stated - but not obvious - there is no nutritional value in an android (a non-living system): even in the first and only movie that counts toward that fact.

Nobody argued that.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

When it comes to food, dead people are enough.

Not much is known about their eating habits, but I doubt that they would be scavengers. If you know something, please share.
Whether they are or not, it is still stupid to let the androids kill humans, because it prevents the aliens to reproduce.
I don't, but if you insist on this scavanger thing, then it's also not viable, because the androids could clean up the mess, discarding the bodies (food in your view) to the waste, where the alien cannot access.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

so androids also help the Xenos when they kill them. (if you really want to get into that kind of thing)

No, I don't, because the alien does not need/want help in killing for whatever reason.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Synthetic#Immunity_to_Xenomorphs

"Fortunately, the Aliens seem not to notice synthetics until they decide we're a threat." ―Bishop (from Alien: Bloodlines)

That was clear, but my point is that they are a threat for humans (livestock), which the aliens are highly dependant of.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

For example, in AFE the synths are attacked, but they in turn attack the Xenos. Even though, in detail, the game doesn't care who attacks first. It's all about shooting anyway, otherwise over 600 Xenos wouldn't die like goats with convulsions during mission 1.

I believe you, I haven't played it.
Yes, every game has it's own representation of the aliens according to it's genre, so player can enjoy it. In one game it is invulnerable, in the other you can punch it... :D

Of course it is a fantasy game/film/comic, so something somewhere must be against logic, otherwise it would not work. If everything would be real, then there won't be any Alien. It's just nice play with with theories, and is also good to point out if something is odd and more bullsh.t than others.

At the end it is odd as in Tone's replies above like this:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tone:

It would be absurd for a biological weapon like the xenomorph to ignore androids unless fired upon. That would make it a remarkably poor weapon.

And also :D :

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KEPETZ:

i'd expect the alien to rend some androids once in a while, just because its a mean bastard

[Defeye]

Ash gives it away in the first movie in 1979 - or rather, the script writers did - that Ash was aware that he was not considered a food source if he walked into a zoo with lions in it: but that "nutritional requirements" were a part of the alien physiological condition. He knew 'it' would eat the crew (in some way); so he didn't have to do too much dirty work other than put the crew in harms way and make emotionless comments about what he was really doing.

[DessIntress]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Skorpion:

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Sry...No time for quote salad. (not meant bad)
Of course they would rather eat dead people than living ones.
They need living prey for their hive to breed. It's as simple and easy as it sounds.
And regarding the people on the station and the androids, it was made clear that they are not a threat. You hang on a corner, in a place that has no corners at all.

[the_bastarded_one]

its clearly killed some of them, you find their bodies. it has learned that they are not food and are not actively threatening it. if they attacked the alien it would kill them in a heartbeat, but they are just not worth it. a good predator saves its energy for real prey rather than randomly smashing furnishings

[Skorpion]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Skorpion:

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Sry...No time for quote salad. (not meant bad)

:) No problem.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Skorpion:

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Of course they would rather eat dead people than living ones.

What makes you say that? Sure, I'm missing something...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DessIntress:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Skorpion:

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They need living prey for their hive to breed. It's as simple and easy as it sounds.

Yep, and the androids are beating up their breeding pillows. That is my main point. If I would be an Alien, I'm sure I would step up to an android and tell him to please stop doing that.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย the_bastarded_one:

its clearly killed some of them, you find their bodies.

Was it the alien, or rather a group of survivors? Not sure after all...
I want to believe you, but in the gameplay I am missing this slap from the Alien towards the android.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย the_bastarded_one:

a good predator saves its energy for real prey rather than randomly smashing furnishings

And just leaves the bounty(body) there to rot?

Allright guys, I see your points, but still non convinced. Anyways, thanks for the reactions and feel free to share your thoughts if you have something in your mind.