is this game woke propaganda?

[lula preso]

i've heard lot of bad things about Wizards of the Coast

[👽🐬 Old Black Nerd🐬👽]

i loathe you and your trolling

[Susan From HR]

wtf

[lula preso]

Originally posted by 👽🐬 Old Black Nerd🐬👽:

i loathe you and your troling

what? why?
it's a legit question, isn't it?

[Krill Issue]

No, but WotC is just really mega stupid when it comes to a lot of business decisions that end up coming off as preying on its customers.

[JayTac]

Originally posted by lula preso:

Originally posted by 👽🐬 Old Black Nerd🐬👽:

i loathe you and your troling

what? why?
it's a legit question, isn't it?

It's not. Just someone looking to bring politics and outrage culture into something not remotely relevant

[br41nd34dpvppyd1s0rd3r]

you put cards down to beat other peoples cards and some of the cards have cool pictures on them

that's literally it

[Karl Pilkington]

OP, please keep politics out of games. This is a card game, not a political conspiracy theory.

Originally posted by lula preso:

bro thats racist

I also see they accused another poster of being a racist in a different topic about the game costing too much money to play, even though nobody else mentioned anything that could be interpreted as such.

[N1ck0]

It's relevant to him and some others. Not much to me though, unless it becomes just too much.

Like they once used Post Malone for promotion. I can't stand that tatted-up clown. But yeah, was just for one event I didn't care for, not a big deal.

WotC has always been a bad business in my opinion, but it's not in relation to politics.

More with how they had a negative influence on the D&D IP along with Atari. Or how they always release over-powered broken cards that caters to Combo and Control decks, while having no regards for how it makes playing Mid-Range non-competitive.

Anyways, it's the right of the guy to be bothered by some political messages a company may promote.

[N1ck0]

Originally posted by Karl Pilkington:

OP, please keep politics out of games. This is a card game, not a political conspiracy theory.

Not in his power to put politics out of the game. If a company wants to make a movie or a game with political messages in it, the consumer has a right to know about it, and make a decision based upon it.

I didn't see much "woke" stuff in this game though. Indeed, it's basically just a cards' game. The lore is very much a second-thought in MTG. Not important at all in relation to the core gameplay.

[N1ck0]

Originally posted by ash</3:

you put cards down to beat other peoples cards and some of the cards have cool pictures on them

that's literally it

Indeed.

[Hunter Este]

Originally posted by lula preso:

i've heard lot of bad things about Wizards of the Coast

Yes, WOTC started going down that path hardcore several years ago. To give you an idea of how bad it has gotten, they now consider Half-Elf and Half-Orc racist tropes in D&D and got rid of Alignment tied to monster races because "it's racist to attribute evilness or goodness to an entire race of creatures!" so yeah all those Drow and Beholders are just misunderstood and really could be a bunch of great things!

[Monkey Brawler]

Originally posted by 👽🐬 Old Black Nerd🐬👽:

i loathe you and your troling

Little tip, responses like yours are exactly what they want, and why they keep doing it.

[Karl Pilkington]

Originally posted by Hunter Este:

Yeah the MTG community leaking into the steam discussion forms for this game will not be a pretty sight.

Oh nooooo it's already begun. They're injecting their politics into the game forum about a card game when we just want to play games.

[Flush Entity]

Well, they called one of their recent expansions "MOM" so they can't be too woke.

Personally, I've not noticed anything, at least nothing particularly overt. Then again I'm more interested in the mechanics of CCGs most of the time, and whether or not the art is at least "competent" or "interesting" rather than hunting for any subliminal messages. I haven't played too much recently, but it should be fine, and it's historically been a really fun game as long as no-one has too many land issues in a given game.

EDIT:

Originally posted by Hunter Este:

Yes, WOTC started going down that path hardcore several years ago. To give you an idea of how bad it has gotten, they now consider Half-Elf and Half-Orc racist tropes in D&D and got rid of Alignment tied to monster races because "it's racist to attribute evilness or goodness to an entire race of creatures!" so yeah all those Drow and Beholders are just misunderstood and really could be a bunch of great things!

To be fair, as someone generally opposed to most "woke" ideas... the "racial alignment" stuff was always kinda BS to me. Doesn't make individuals or societies not evil/good though, but it shouldn't therefore follow that everyone of that race or born in that society is therefore evil/good. Drizzt being a "good Drow" was established even during the racial alignment thing for example, that didn't stop most of his family and the people in Menzoboranzan(sp?) being totally evil. Plus, the Atonement spell exists, or whatever the alignment changing spell is called these days.

But I figure if they have the same level of free will as regular humans, they should be whatever alignment fits their will and personality, even for Dragons and the like with their chromatic/metallic split.

That said, mindless beings and animals (that aren't Awakened) should always be neutral, (and I'd include Skeletons for example, as well as Golems and Insects and the like, but that might just be me).

[Lord Tony]

Most woke thing I've seen was my little pony