TOS 2 is worse than TOS 1

[Ty svab]

No Medium
Retributionist doesnt bring back dead people back to the game
Jailor cant jail after exe town (in TOS1 u could still jail)
Executioner can choose target and target Coven
They renamed Escrot to Town Keeper which is dumb af...
Town Keeper cant roleblock 2 times in a row
Investigator no more possible 3 roles
Echanter (Coven) is more OP than mafia janitor, messing up graveyard totally
House interior design is useless
I personally hate these "pre made" skins, I miss first skin from TOS1
mayor cant reveal on trial

[MeowMaster]

Nobody liked to play medium they always left

Ret hadn't been like that for years, they were changed from that a long time ago to give the player a more active role in the game instead of sitting around and making sure the power role isn't dead.

Jailor needed the Nerf, they were always the most OP role in the game

Mate it's a name change from a prostitute to a more friendly name

Investigator limited claim viability forcing people to claim a certain way, this is a good change opening up new claim opportunities .

Enchanter is just forger(and framer), Mafia already had those roles

yes cosmetics are useless, that's a thing in every game.

I personally like the skins but that's a matter of opinion.

Ok yeah I think mayor should be able to trial reveal again.

[Blackmagemasher]

Personally feel investigator should say more than if there is blood.......
As I told my brother, maybe if the also tattled on if he saw a weapon or something occult (since both town and evil have weapons and occult like objects)

[limierr]

Originally posted by Johk0:

No Medium
Retributionist doesnt bring back dead people back to the game
Jailor cant jail after exe town (in TOS1 u could still jail)
Executioner can choose target and target Coven
They renamed Escrot to Town Keeper which is dumb af...
Town Keeper cant roleblock 2 times in a row
Investigator no more possible 3 roles
Echanter (Coven) is more OP than mafia janitor, messing up graveyard totally
House interior design is useless
I personally hate these "pre made" skins, I miss first skin from TOS1
mayor cant reveal on trial

=> Yes i also regret medium
=> retributionist change was also in tos 1
=> Jailor change is weird but that is their choice and not too big
=>The rename of escort is weird but i guess it is because it was associated to "adult content" and it get changed for "alcool" ... not sure it is better.
=> The rb apply for coven also
=> Inves feel weird i agree.
=> Enchanter is kind of interesting.
=> Based on people house interior is not finish content. But yes it feel weird
=> Premade skin are from traitor of salem

[MeowMaster]

Originally posted by limierr:

Originally posted by Johk0:

No Medium
Retributionist doesnt bring back dead people back to the game
Jailor cant jail after exe town (in TOS1 u could still jail)
Executioner can choose target and target Coven
They renamed Escrot to Town Keeper which is dumb af...
Town Keeper cant roleblock 2 times in a row
Investigator no more possible 3 roles
Echanter (Coven) is more OP than mafia janitor, messing up graveyard totally
House interior design is useless
I personally hate these "pre made" skins, I miss first skin from TOS1
mayor cant reveal on trial

=> Yes i also regret medium
=> retributionist change was also in tos 1
=> Jailor change is weird but that is their choice and not too big
=>The rename of escort is weird but i guess it is because it was associated to "adult content" and it get changed for "alcool" ... not sure it is better.
=> The rb apply for coven also
=> Inves feel weird i agree.
=> Enchanter is kind of interesting.
=> Based on people house interior is not finish content. But yes it feel weird
=> Premade skin are from traitor of salem

Yeah I know a lot of assets are reused from traitors in Salem. If it aint broke dont fix it though.

[Ty svab]

Originally posted by limierr:

Originally posted by Johk0:

No Medium
Retributionist doesnt bring back dead people back to the game
Jailor cant jail after exe town (in TOS1 u could still jail)
Executioner can choose target and target Coven
They renamed Escrot to Town Keeper which is dumb af...
Town Keeper cant roleblock 2 times in a row
Investigator no more possible 3 roles
Echanter (Coven) is more OP than mafia janitor, messing up graveyard totally
House interior design is useless
I personally hate these "pre made" skins, I miss first skin from TOS1
mayor cant reveal on trial

=> Yes i also regret medium
=> retributionist change was also in tos 1
=> Jailor change is weird but that is their choice and not too big
=>The rename of escort is weird but i guess it is because it was associated to "adult content" and it get changed for "alcool" ... not sure it is better.
=> The rb apply for coven also
=> Inves feel weird i agree.
=> Enchanter is kind of interesting.
=> Based on people house interior is not finish content. But yes it feel weird
=> Premade skin are from traitor of salem

I was playing evil and I was claiming ret 3 times saying I will revive town and then on 3rd game someone told me thats not how ret works LOL I am getting so confused with my brain because I used to have like 1000 hours on TOS1

[limierr]

Originally posted by Johk0:

Originally posted by limierr:

=> Yes i also regret medium
=> retributionist change was also in tos 1
=> Jailor change is weird but that is their choice and not too big
=>The rename of escort is weird but i guess it is because it was associated to "adult content" and it get changed for "alcool" ... not sure it is better.
=> The rb apply for coven also
=> Inves feel weird i agree.
=> Enchanter is kind of interesting.
=> Based on people house interior is not finish content. But yes it feel weird
=> Premade skin are from traitor of salem

I was playing evil and I was claiming ret 3 times saying I will revive town and then on 3rd game someone told me thats not how ret works LOL I am getting so confused with my brain because I used to have like 1000 hours on TOS1

To explain it :
=> TOS 1 ret initially had a ret which revive directly the player BUT they remove it as it makes the role a bit too much obvious AND people tend to leave before able to use the power
=> TOS 1 then make it like you can use the dead power but only once.
=> TOS 2 take this version but add no cooldown (so if you have a vig , you can shoot without limit).

[walloloo]

I disagree with all your points except the mayor one, the fact that you cant reveal on stand it crap in my opinion

[EwoDarkWolf]

The only one I agree with is inv. Sus or not sus is just boring. I do think old inv limited roles, but why not make it like psy? First night, you find results like ToS1 inv. Second night, you find results like current ToS2 inv. There's no more deduction in the game aside from either the person is sus/inno, or trying to scumread (which is hard to do when no one tries to share info anymore).

But right now, the tis are just carbon copies of each other. You have sheriff > Inv> coroner, then you have Seer>Psy. Even the tps feel more unique and less op. Inv gave you someone you needed to kill early on, or risk them confirming town or outing evils.

[limierr]

Originally posted by EwoDarkWolf:

The only one I agree with is inv. Sus or not sus is just boring. I do think old inv limited roles, but why not make it like psy? First night, you find results like ToS1 inv. Second night, you find results like current ToS2 inv. There's no more deduction in the game aside from either the person is sus/inno, or trying to scumread (which is hard to do when no one tries to share info anymore).

But right now, the tis are just carbon copies of each other. You have sheriff > Inv> coroner, then you have Seer>Psy. Even the tps feel more unique and less op. Inv gave you someone you needed to kill early on, or risk them confirming town or outing evils.

No inves didn’t see sus and non sus which is good and bad in a way.
Blood come from killing role ( town or not) which is nice if you want to confirm if someone is jester / exe ( as they appear as sus for sheriff