p2w?

[Dr.]

i saw netease doing this game or being affiliated with it, so will it be a heavy p2w/p4c?

[Mr_Pennywise]

they have said it will be cosmetic only not P2W

[Xanthos]

Originally posted by Mr_Pennywise:

they have said it will be cosmetic only not P2W

LOL if you believe this you are a fool. Just gonna leave this here, they are definitely going to sell something related to memetic mastery rerolls. It's RNG, they are definitely going to sell it. Could be tokens that access the thing that drops them or other garbage.

[Focus Up]

It will definitely start off being "pay 2 be pretty" but it will go down the p2w path pretty quickly.

[Rhila]

let's not forget it's also phone game and from Asia, so pay 2 win gonna happen but i hope not because the game is fun and i like it

[Aeekto]

Originally posted by Focus Up:

It will definitely start off being "pay 2 be pretty" but it will go down the p2w path pretty quickly.

you can already tell by looking how the blueprints and the gamble system works.... it is basicly like Gacha and i am 100% certain you will be able to trade realmoney into the currency needed for spins at the gamble machine, either directly or indirectly through market.

[Snicz]

The "Wish Machine" alone is P2W.

This game is getting also for mobile so you already know it.

[Dr.]

yeah thats what i thought alone by netease being involved, i guess i will see and discard this game choice if it turns out to be

[Rhila]

there is some little hope that it will not be pay to win because the game looks well made and it will be popular they can make a lot $$ from cosmetics if they are smart they don't want to ruin it with pay to win.

also i think the phone version is not the same as PC version right? not sure

[ShadyHashtag]

It's a netease game. So expect some p2w concepts in the game. A lot has changed since the last 2 cbt. The current cbt is a little different. Some of the items you used to have to make to glide are gone. The game is now a seasonal 6 week server game. Unlike what they previously told us. So expect a wipe every 6 weeks.

[Aeekto]

Originally posted by Rhila:

there is some little hope that it will not be pay to win because the game looks well made and it will be popular they can make a lot $$ from cosmetics if they are smart they don't want to ruin it with pay to win.

also i think the phone version is not the same as PC version right? not sure

it is exactly the same game... you can play the same character on the same server on your mobile and PC (i am part of both tests).

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Having played about 50 hours in the beta i can 102% say, with a 2% margin of error, that the game will be p2w.
There are too many mechanics that are tailored to p2w and packages.
There is literally a gambling machine for "skins"
The problem is that the "skins" are actually the crafting recipes of guns or armor.
These things can also be upgrades with more parts so even if you unlock a gun, you can still collect parts to make it stronger and max it.
Same for armor
You also put mods on guns and armor wich are sometimes stronger than the actual item and completly change it.
You can further upgrade this mods by disasembling other mods but the mod types are very diverse and have their own quality. So a legendary mod that is max out might take 50 hours of farming depending on your luck.
So to max out a helmet you need to unlock it, upgrade it with more schematics, calibrate it by using more resources and finaly equip the apropiate mod and upgrade the mod as well.
Now, do this for 8 items.
Now....think about deviations wich can be incredibly powerful and cut down farming by a lot or make comabat easier
The game also has a RNG selection of extra skills that can be for survival, combat, crafting, gathering or building. Sometimes you get a great skill out of the 4(or 5) selection.
This mechanic has a "Reset" button that cost a certain resources.
It's also very clear that some rewards will be preserved after a wipe but the rare currencies/rewards will be kept.
I am not sure how much the game will cost but it will have p2w mechanics because there are many resources, curencies and unlockables.
And even if they are only "cosmetics" they can still come with packages or unlocks.

I just don't see a way this is not p2w with all the RNG, gambling for mods/schematics and boss farming

[Rhila]

Originally posted by Aeekto:

Originally posted by Rhila:

there is some little hope that it will not be pay to win because the game looks well made and it will be popular they can make a lot $$ from cosmetics if they are smart they don't want to ruin it with pay to win.

also i think the phone version is not the same as PC version right? not sure

it is exactly the same game... you can play the same character on the same server on your mobile and PC (i am part of both tests).

wow, it will be hell for phone players in PvP servers.

[Aeekto]

Originally posted by Rhila:

Originally posted by Aeekto:

it is exactly the same game... you can play the same character on the same server on your mobile and PC (i am part of both tests).

wow, it will be hell for phone players in PvP servers.

PvP servers are basicly just PvE servers, only with tiny little pvp areas.... and the hitboxes are ridiculous huge, so it is actually very easy on mobile to make headshots. gameplay is not very fast at all.

[alan0n]

Originally posted by Mr_Pennywise:

they have said it will be cosmetic only not P2W

This is the answer. Everything else is baseless speculation by laymen.

[Dr.]

Originally posted by alan0n:

Originally posted by Mr_Pennywise:

they have said it will be cosmetic only not P2W

This is the answer. Everything else is baseless speculation by laymen.

its speculation for sure but not baseless