[SUGGESTION] Change the Wipe System

[D.A.R.K.]

So... It seems each season everything will be force wiped. This means you are playing right now, progressing through the campaign, doing side quests, leveling up your character, unlocking things, and then, suddenly, everything is gone like a deleted character.

This system suck and it will be the end of this game. What you are doing is forcing the player replay the whole game every single season, which is stupid and waste a time. From every single little thing you can do bad on your game, the literal worst thing is wasting player's time.

I understand, you want to do something similar as Rust that you wipe the world, but there's a huge difference between Rust and Once Human that isn't worth going on about right now, but I'm gonna put my list of suggestions how to fix this issue:

01. DON'T DO THIS ON PvE SERVERS:
You made a great system of separating PvP players from PvE players, which is awesome, but doing that in PvE is the same as inviting your players to not play the game again simply because PLAYERS DON'T LIKE TO WASTE TIME, stopping forcing system that forces the player to delete the character and start over, this is NOT how you make replayability, and this is DEFINITELY how you kill your game.

02. PERMANENT CHARACTERS AND SEASONAL CHARACTERS:
Like literally any other game that has this seasonal system, add the permanent character and the seasonal character system. How this work? Simple: Every time a season ends, the seasonal character turns into the permanent character and players can play with forever without losing progress. Permanent characters can't play on season events but they aren't deleted after the end of the season.

03. DO NOT TRY TO REINVENT THE WHEEL:
Multiple games already dealt with this situation before, an alive world that players can modify, create base, and seasonal events. Those games and companies already found the solution for this that players are ok with, solutions that are acceptable. Do not try to reinvent the wheel when it's already ready, copy their method and implement in your game without trying to do something new that will destroy this game.



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Edit 1:
For sake of explaining one-by-one for those who don't know:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnceHumanOfficial/comments/18y7prk/seasonal_wipe/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWXfKH904ks&ab_channel=KingGothalionFanChannel

https://www.oncehuman.game/devBlog/20240325/37623_1144892.html

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Edit 2:
Ok... Important information... I went to the Once Human's Discord to show this thread to the developers and relative, I receive as reply those two images:

https://i.ibb.co/pbPgzsV/Once-Human-Wipe-System-01.png

https://i.ibb.co/DgCKqRd/Once-Human-Wipe-System-02.png

[D.A.R.K.]

Opprinnelig skrevet av AFC_HIGHBURY:

Also me editing my comment is just adding what I left out. Nothing I've said is wrong.

You are wrong in comparing Rust and V Rising with Once Human, clearly completely different games, with different purposes, and different way of reaching the end. Rust is small game that you can reach end-game in 1 day. V Rising doesn't wipe servers, hosts are the ones who wipes.

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av AFC_HIGHBURY:

They should let you keep your characters I didn't disagree with you on that, I disagreed that it'll have less than 5k because of a wipe.

I think you should REALLY go back and read what I said instead of only what you want to read. What I said? I said that: "IF the developers don't allow us to keep playing with our characters even if the season is over, this game will die as soon as a new season come out, people may not know this will happen, but when it happen, everyone will give up on the game and complain about it."

IF... IF... They don't allow us to keep playing with the character. They should simply do what every single other game does. Just added the permanent character, it's done.

I mean you didn't say if in what I replied to you the first time, but it doesn't matter I agreed it isn't ideal.

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av AFC_HIGHBURY:

Also me editing my comment is just adding what I left out. Nothing I've said is wrong.

You are wrong in comparing Rust and V Rising with Once Human, clearly completely different games, with different purposes, and different way of reaching the end. Rust is small game that you can reach end-game in 1 day. V Rising doesn't wipe servers, hosts are the ones who wipes.

I mean do people play v rising official? I don't have it installed to see the numbers. Do people play rust pve? If the answer is yes and a simple google search atleast for the latter would say I'm correct.

[D.A.R.K.]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av D.A.R.K.:

You are wrong in comparing Rust and V Rising with Once Human, clearly completely different games, with different purposes, and different way of reaching the end. Rust is small game that you can reach end-game in 1 day. V Rising doesn't wipe servers, hosts are the ones who wipes.

I mean do people play v rising official? I don't have it installed to see the numbers. Do people play rust pve? If the answer is yes then I'm not wrong.

Yes, but the numbers are irrelevant, the same way PvPers in V Rising and PvPers in 7 Days to Die. The majority of V Rising players are friends playing PvE together, or people from Discord getting together to have a run. If PvPers stop playing V Rising, nothing would change.

The Fun Pimp (Developers of 7 Days to Die) and Digital Extreme (Developers of Warframe) completely ignore the PvP side of the game and only focus on balancing it for PvE because the numbers of PvPers are so few that they don't matter, it's waste of time, effort, money, and resources try to make them happy, and a risk to mess up PvE things.

Yes, there are players who play Rust PvE on community servers made properly for that, but similar to V Rising and 7 Days to Die, we are so few that we don't matter. I say "we" because I'm one of them, I don't like PvP on Rust, and I accept that the developers spend everything on PvP because this is what the game is suppose to be, I'm the odd's one out playing PvE.

[D.A.R.K.]

It's easy to fix this: Just add permanent character like every single other game. Instead of deleting my progress after season, let me keep progressing even off season. Done.

[Dirty_Pain]

lol the game isnt even out yet and people already complain about something that isn't even in it

[D.A.R.K.]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty_Pain:

the game isnt even out yet and there isnt even anything talked about wipes

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnceHumanOfficial/comments/18y7prk/seasonal_wipe/

Edit:
I'm gonna assume this is the interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWXfKH904ks&ab_channel=KingGothalionFanChannel

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av AFC_HIGHBURY:

I mean do people play v rising official? I don't have it installed to see the numbers. Do people play rust pve? If the answer is yes then I'm not wrong.

Yes, but the numbers are irrelevant, the same way PvPers in V Rising and PvPers in 7 Days to Die. The majority of V Rising players are friends playing PvE together, or people from Discord getting together to have a run. If PvPers stop playing V Rising, nothing would change.

The Fun Pimp (Developers of 7 Days to Die) and Digital Extreme (Developers of Warframe) completely ignore the PvP side of the game and only focus on balancing it for PvE because the numbers of PvPers are so few that they don't matter, it's waste of time, effort, money, and resources try to make them happy, and a risk to mess up PvE things.

Yes, there are players who play Rust PvE on community servers made properly for that, but similar to V Rising and 7 Days to Die, we are so few that we don't matter. I say "we" because I'm one of them, I don't like PvP on Rust, and I accept that the developers spend everything on PvP because this is what the game is suppose to be, I'm the odd's one out playing PvE.

I've stopped playing all of them tbh. Either way wipe isn't ideal, do I think it'll die if it had a season mechanic not atall, itll die if they don't add enough content during that time and I also think 6 weeks is way to short. I do also think they should have a off seasons server.

[Dirty_Pain]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty_Pain:

the game isnt even out yet and there isnt even anything talked about wipes

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnceHumanOfficial/comments/18y7prk/seasonal_wipe/

so you are reffring to a 6month old post from a random guy on reddit?

[D.A.R.K.]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty_Pain:

Opprinnelig skrevet av D.A.R.K.:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnceHumanOfficial/comments/18y7prk/seasonal_wipe/

so you are reffring to a 6month old post from a random guy on reddit?

Sorry, I edited the post, I believe is this interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWXfKH904ks&ab_channel=KingGothalionFanChannel

[D.A.R.K.]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av D.A.R.K.:

Yes, but the numbers are irrelevant, the same way PvPers in V Rising and PvPers in 7 Days to Die. The majority of V Rising players are friends playing PvE together, or people from Discord getting together to have a run. If PvPers stop playing V Rising, nothing would change.

The Fun Pimp (Developers of 7 Days to Die) and Digital Extreme (Developers of Warframe) completely ignore the PvP side of the game and only focus on balancing it for PvE because the numbers of PvPers are so few that they don't matter, it's waste of time, effort, money, and resources try to make them happy, and a risk to mess up PvE things.

Yes, there are players who play Rust PvE on community servers made properly for that, but similar to V Rising and 7 Days to Die, we are so few that we don't matter. I say "we" because I'm one of them, I don't like PvP on Rust, and I accept that the developers spend everything on PvP because this is what the game is suppose to be, I'm the odd's one out playing PvE.

I've stopped playing all of them tbh. Either way wipe isn't ideal, do I think it'll die if it had a season mechanic not atall, itll die if they don't add enough content during that time and I also think 6 weeks is way to short. I do also think they should have a off seasons server.

I don't think off season server would be the ideal (unless they can't do better) because usually people play the season character even after the season ends, they keep playing this permanent version of the character while waiting for season, because they don't want to waste the progress during the season. An off season server would only be good if they add the season content after the end of the season similar to Path of Exile.

[AFC_HIGHBURY]

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I've stopped playing all of them tbh. Either way wipe isn't ideal, do I think it'll die if it had a season mechanic not atall, itll die if they don't add enough content during that time and I also think 6 weeks is way to short. I do also think they should have a off seasons server.

I don't think off season server would be the ideal (unless they can't do better) because usually people play the season character even after the season ends, they keep playing this permanent version of the character while waiting for season, because they don't want to waste the progress during the season. An off season server would only be good if they add the season content after the end of the season similar to Path of Exile.

Yeh that's what I had in mind though, all season mechanics should be patched into off season.

[Innominatam]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Dirty_Pain:

lol the game isnt even out yet and people already complain about something that isn't even in it

Seriously....?

[D.A.R.K.]

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lol the game isnt even out yet and people already complain about something that isn't even in it

So, you need to eat ♥♥♥♥ first to know it's ♥♥♥♥ right?

[OrangeBoxCat]

I might like to grind some resource (ore , water , ammunition , etc) and explore abandon site but with wipe every 6 weeks? that mean I grind for NOTHING
I ok with theme and style but not wipe system