Once Human

Once Human

Kickz Jun 14, 2024 @ 11:55am
I Feel The Main Base Should Be A Private Instance
Just my 2cents/rant on the main base system after roughly 12 hours of gameplay and moving my base alongside my progression through several higher level areas.

Ignoring the issue of not finding a spot right away, the game allows you to claim territory to build your own dream base.

However, the game also actively encourages to continously keep moving your base as you progress through the game.

While I feel a lot of features in this game were added as they are "popular" and see what works (and to be fair, a lot do), the base building doesn't feel thought through a lot at all. Not the actual base building itself,..well partially as there is tons of issues with it too and terrain not being destroyed and clipping etc... but thats a different issue.

Moving the base mechanic seems great until you realize, the terrain is not going to be much changed when you place your base at a new location, and your base which was practical is now ins some odd location looking like a sore spot, assuming you find one.
Which completely defeats the purpose of building your dream base in my humble opinion.

I have managed to find a spot eventually and build a nice base but everytime I move it along into the next higher level area its a nightmare to find a spot that makes my base still proper accessible and practical as well as close enough to the next main hub of quests, etc...

It's a nightmare of a mini game I don't want to spend as much time on as I'm forced to do right now.

We also have camps..... I realy don't understand why your main base can't just be a private instance you can access from anywhere through a menu or your camp even.

Why not use the camp as your movable fast travel point instead and make it 80% smaller with a simple interactable interface for the basic crafting and why not throw a interactable button or "portal" on it to access your actual base then too.

This is not a suggestion, and it's not intended as a "must see" for the devs as they 100% will not change anything thats not based on mass community driven design suggestions.

I remember the good ol's days, when games were designed and developed without us and we only got to see it first time on release without betas, zetas and demos (well, some did) asking us for design choices on their games along the way.

Games were made to impress us, sure, hit and miss, but the onus was on devs to impress gamers not ask us to design their games for them along the way.
Last edited by Kickz; Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:04pm
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Darkener Jun 14, 2024 @ 12:07pm 
True :steamthumbsup:
xipheon Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:04pm 
They do have private instances for permanent building, it's called Eternaland.

The whole point of building bases in the main game is so other players can see them in the world, to have a presence there.

Teleporting means you don't have to move your base to each new area, it's your choice to do so. Some people want the fantasy of building a mobile base they move around, so design it for that purpose. If you want a permanent home then don't move it.

Your rant is almost entirely based on ignorance. You want this system to be something it's not and are ignoring all the ways that already exist that do those things better. Most importantly just use the damn teleport towers.

I built my base on a beach and I'm quite happy leaving it there. I never felt inconvenienced for it being on the edge of the map.
Desh51 Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
In regard to relocating base, how can i make the base further away from the camera?, even in flight mode I have no idea what i'm looking at in regard to placement as it's filling up my whole screen
NijimaXL Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:39pm 
Tower style bases are easier to recolate.
Desh51 Jun 14, 2024 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by HËLLST✫R:
Tower style bases are easier to recolate.
Thanks man, i'll go that route on release
Aponik Jun 14, 2024 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by Omega Desh:
In regard to relocating base, how can i make the base further away from the camera?, even in flight mode I have no idea what i'm looking at in regard to placement as it's filling up my whole screen

The fly mode really need a zoom in/out. but what you can do is look from the top of your base (while in fly mode) and use (Z) or (C). It somewhat work as a zoom in/out when your looking from the top view of your base. And not when you are looking at it sideway. It will just pan the camera up down instead, now you will have to play around quite a bit with this (Z) (C) and orientation of your view while pressing those key. But as Helstar said, small tower style base will be easier to relocate.
SilvaBlad3 Jun 14, 2024 @ 8:58pm 
when you build your first base make sure you build it on somewhere flat first so its easy to relocate later. I normally dont build my base till level 30. But i usually use a platform base with maybe 5 foundation blocks to fit my forging tools. Dont need a wall etc
Kickz Jun 15, 2024 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by xipheon:
They do have private instances for permanent building, it's called Eternaland.

The whole point of building bases in the main game is so other players can see them in the world, to have a presence there.

I know the why obviously.

I just don't like it and that's my personal preference and opinion I'm entitle to.
In my humble opinon seeing multiple bases lumped together that has zero synergy between them in the most awkward positions, due to envrionment, defeats the whole point of showing off something nice when it all looks ugly and cluttered together. In my opinion.

Its my opinion, they should be instances so you don't see the ugly clutter in the world.

I know they do it as it entices others to see what they might not have and eventually it ties into cosmetic you can buy in the cash shop, etc.. etc... Hence it won't change.

Originally posted by xipheon:
You want this system to be something it's not and are ignoring all the ways that already exist that do those things better. Most importantly just use the damn teleport towers.

I don't want the system to be anything, I just don't think its a great system how it is right now, in my opinion and If they change it or not is irrelevant, I still play the game or not play it just like any other game.

I'm glad you like the system and have zero complaints, it is your opinion and you are well entitle to it. Far be it for me to tell you that your opinion is wrong because is not like mine.
Last edited by Kickz; Jun 15, 2024 @ 5:01am
Kickz Jun 15, 2024 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by HËLLST✫R:
Tower style bases are easier to recolate.

That's what I ended up doing at first. Another way I found to workaround the stronghold/road bugs is rotating my base in the same spot so I can build each side of my base until complete. Then when complete I can plant it in the actual location I want as I'm no longer building so it doesn't matterif the strong/road bug happens.
Taitter Jun 15, 2024 @ 6:39am 
I understand your want for this, but as an avid player of survival games like this, I do NOT want instanced bases. Palia has an instanced system and I am not a fan and quit playing because of it (that and it was boring). I love the experience of someone wandering around my place or THROUGH my place. I love to move around the map and see everyone else's creativity and effort as well.

VRising, Valheim, Ark, Rust, DayZ, Minecraft you name the game, I want to see and experience the builds and community.

I hope you find your happy place in this game regardless :)
gpcstargate Jun 15, 2024 @ 7:21am 
Give them Hell .. Kickz
I know what you are saying and it is True in my humble opinion. :steamthumbsup:
Last edited by gpcstargate; Jun 15, 2024 @ 7:22am
Kickz Jun 15, 2024 @ 7:05pm 
Originally posted by Taitter:
I understand your want for this, but as an avid player of survival games like this, I do NOT want instanced bases. Palia has an instanced system and I am not a fan and quit playing because of it (that and it was boring). I love the experience of someone wandering around my place or THROUGH my place. I love to move around the map and see everyone else's creativity and effort as well.

VRising, Valheim, Ark, Rust, DayZ, Minecraft you name the game, I want to see and experience the builds and community.

I hope you find your happy place in this game regardless :)

V Rising has done it brilliantly and Valheim, Ark are all great and I would not change their system either. I don't know what it is exactly about Once Human but it feels less clean and more chaotic to me than the games you listed, which I deffinetely agree with you on, have a great way of doing it.

Maybe it's because it is the Demo and tons of players started bases and left and it will be less chaotic and cleaner in the main release.

We'll see when they go live.
Last edited by Kickz; Jun 15, 2024 @ 7:07pm
FachMetz[GER] Aug 2, 2024 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by Kickz:
Originally posted by xipheon:
They do have private instances for permanent building, it's called Eternaland.

The whole point of building bases in the main game is so other players can see them in the world, to have a presence there.

I know the why obviously.

I just don't like it and that's my personal preference and opinion I'm entitle to.
In my humble opinon seeing multiple bases lumped together that has zero synergy between them in the most awkward positions, due to envrionment, defeats the whole point of showing off something nice when it all looks ugly and cluttered together. In my opinion.

Its my opinion, they should be instances so you don't see the ugly clutter in the world.

I know they do it as it entices others to see what they might not have and eventually it ties into cosmetic you can buy in the cash shop, etc.. etc... Hence it won't change.

Originally posted by xipheon:
You want this system to be something it's not and are ignoring all the ways that already exist that do those things better. Most importantly just use the damn teleport towers.

I don't want the system to be anything, I just don't think its a great system how it is right now, in my opinion and If they change it or not is irrelevant, I still play the game or not play it just like any other game.

I'm glad you like the system and have zero complaints, it is your opinion and you are well entitle to it. Far be it for me to tell you that your opinion is wrong because is not like mine.

first of all .. you should use the word "opinion" more often and then take your "opinion" and put it up your probably also ugly and cluttered looking base
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Date Posted: Jun 14, 2024 @ 11:55am
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