NetEase is baiting you

[kerawinters]

Not sure how all of you are getting so easily baited by NetEase. The gameplay is similar to a mobile game and there's nothing gamebreaking about it when compared to other zombie survival games like Days Gone.

The only fancy tech they've managed to pull is the ability to house multiple players into one world but that takes away the whole survival aspect of it. I've only played this game for 1-2 hours, endured the bad story and voice acting only to be disappointed from the survival gameplay.

An example would be, your character hunts animals in the wild, does a cheap skinning animation, cooks the meat and does a cheap animation of eating... and that's it? You mine rocks, minerals, throw them into some kind of container to processes and magically turn into ingots? Like, is that it?

While I know the game is free to play, I don't understand the hype at all. There's no survival gameplay, there's nothing horror about the enemies or the environment. Like the enemies themselves are just a server shard, once they've been cleared, they just disappear into thin air.

Can I just conclude that most of you here are just free to play players that have no alternatives to other games like DayZ, SCUM, Ark Survival, Conan Exiles, Days Gone, 7 Days to Die because they cost money?

[SilvaBlad3]

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Originally posted by SilvaBlad3:

lol how you gonna say this is a survival game then say later on in your message that it is not a survival game lol stick to one thing. Lol this is an mmo open world game with survival elements. So yes the food and water is what they consider that to be. The currency isnt a problem, from all the betas i've played i never had a problem with obtaining currency. In fact i had over 400,000 just from playing missions and to fast travel doesnt cost no more than 100-800 max depending on where you are going. Also buying ingame stuff is fine buy me, i dont mind spending money on ingame shop items, heck already spent $100 on first descendant and it just came out yesterday. If people are broke and cant afford things they should stay away. Don't really care for what idea they stole, its their game, they didnt steal anything there are tons of game crossovers in this game. If you look at the deviants and deviation they come from other games or things even the paper man that sweeps came from a crossover as well. Get use to it, this is how these games are. Or then again can also not play it too. Also the endgame wasnt pvp. PVP is boring, the endgame was doing dungeons and pve raids while trying to max out your character, atleast in all the betas anyways... They have added quite a bit of new endgame dungeons tht i came across.

Learn to read. I said SCUM is a survival game. I've never stated Once Human was a survival game as there's no survival gameplay. The game is a shard based MMO sandbox made for players like you to believe its an "MMO Open World game". In reality its a grindfest full of group instanced dungeons set on pay to win mechanics the higher the player level is.

The currency does not get implemented in beta. No Chinese developer would reveal their monetization right until the player has spent a good amount of hours into the game. This way the player has to rethink if they want to quit the game or spend money to increase gear score.

You earned 400,000 in game currency which has nothing to do with premium currency. Nobody knows how many premium currency this game will have but both Lifeafter and Undawn had many including different premium materials to upgrade gear.

First Descendant is no different. It looks free to play now but each time your hitmarker taps an enemy, numbers will show up. Sooner or later the game will force you to increase gear score otherwise you won't be able to do higher level dungeons. Aside from that, First Descendant is just a bland copy of Warframe built on Unreal Engine 5.

I won't get used to games like these nor will I stop going against them. You might like them but you too will soon quit because of how expensive Asian MMOs can get to upgrade gear score.

thats you i guess as for me i've been playing asian games since 2008 and they always had monetization on them. heck i spent 1000's on them online and still play them to this day. This one just suits me even more due to the purchasable cosmetics i saw they have to buy which i will also buy. Never said the ingame fast travel credits was the main credits because it is not. Tons of cool cosmetics and furniture to buy with paid money etc. I dont really care about end game, i just wanna build, buy and explore till i cant no more. Then start over again with a new character and do the same over :)

[Kai]

The game won't last for a long enough time really, many Chinese companies uses various means to take out loans and borrow lots of money to sink into projects, hence artificially simulate a 'economy'.

A proper MMO needs funding and investments to at least last 1-2 years of initial release with a consistent cycle of content and updates and whatnot. Plus this game is already somewhat developed in China over a year ago in a pseudo 'beta' state, so chances are they will just reiterate the same mobile looter shooter formula that's just polished up.

[Kai]

Originally posted by SilvaBlad3:

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Learn to read. I said SCUM is a survival game. I've never stated Once Human was a survival game as there's no survival gameplay. The game is a shard based MMO sandbox made for players like you to believe its an "MMO Open World game". In reality its a grindfest full of group instanced dungeons set on pay to win mechanics the higher the player level is.

The currency does not get implemented in beta. No Chinese developer would reveal their monetization right until the player has spent a good amount of hours into the game. This way the player has to rethink if they want to quit the game or spend money to increase gear score.

You earned 400,000 in game currency which has nothing to do with premium currency. Nobody knows how many premium currency this game will have but both Lifeafter and Undawn had many including different premium materials to upgrade gear.

First Descendant is no different. It looks free to play now but each time your hitmarker taps an enemy, numbers will show up. Sooner or later the game will force you to increase gear score otherwise you won't be able to do higher level dungeons. Aside from that, First Descendant is just a bland copy of Warframe built on Unreal Engine 5.

I won't get used to games like these nor will I stop going against them. You might like them but you too will soon quit because of how expensive Asian MMOs can get to upgrade gear score.

thats you i guess as for me i've been playing asian games since 2008 and they always had monetization on them. heck i spent 1000's on them online and still play them to this day. This one just suits me even more due to the purchasable cosmetics i saw they have to buy which i will also buy. Never said the ingame fast travel credits was the main credits because it is not. Tons of cool cosmetics and furniture to buy with paid money etc. I dont really care about end game, i just wanna build, buy and explore till i cant no more. Then start over again with a new character and do the same over :)

I know much about 'MTX' predatory practices and everyone pushes off the whole 'oh people spend money as they wish' when it's in every corporation's interest to drive marketing to make you think it's your own decision you've made towards something.

Back when Mabinogi was decent and people spend lots of time on it, the average vet player would dump $1000 USD a month on it, and that's 2015~2018 money before inflation. Give that a bit of thought as well, on what they spend money a lot on? Dyes, customizations, pets, and gacha boxes with those super 0.1% chance to get the items you want.

[Kai]

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Not sure how all of you are getting so easily baited by NetEase. The gameplay is similar to a mobile game and there's nothing gamebreaking about it when compared to other zombie survival games like Days Gone.

The only fancy tech they've managed to pull is the ability to house multiple players into one world but that takes away the whole survival aspect of it. I've only played this game for 1-2 hours, endured the bad story and voice acting only to be disappointed from the survival gameplay.

An example would be, your character hunts animals in the wild, does a cheap skinning animation, cooks the meat and does a cheap animation of eating... and that's it? You mine rocks, minerals, throw them into some kind of container to processes and magically turn into ingots? Like, is that it?

While I know the game is free to play, I don't understand the hype at all. There's no survival gameplay, there's nothing horror about the enemies or the environment. Like the enemies themselves are just a server shard, once they've been cleared, they just disappear into thin air.

Can I just conclude that most of you here are just free to play players that have no alternatives to other games like DayZ, SCUM, Ark Survival, Conan Exiles, Days Gone, 7 Days to Die because they cost money?

F2P but some average MMO whales dumps $100-500 USD a month just to be relevant socially, or keep playing due to buyer's regret after dumping that much money in it?

Yeah predatory practices means the company would make use of FOMO as much as possible against you.

In that same monthly period, you could be buying a few triple AAA games, or a dozen smaller indie titles, each one entertaining you probably for several weeks, EACH.

[Kai]

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Originally posted by Holy Mustard:

Your one game account tells me this is either a smurf account or your main got the good ole ban hammer. Days Gone has crap survival, Conan isn't horror survival, ARK is basically dino collection survival and 7 days isn't that great either. SCUM and DayZ are the only true survival games you mentioned. Also the devs never tried to compare their game to any of those or to say its better.

You are obviously trying to reach.

Days Gone does better horror than Once Human.
Conan isn't horror survival nor does it claim to be. However the modding support in Conan is unmatched.
ARK is filled with so much content and is not pay to win.
7 Days is a good survival zombie game and has aspects of horror. It's not perfect but it won't be pay to win like Once Human will be.

The developers of this game will only care about your money.

The issue I see with 'older' but more polished and valid games you can buy and own digitally, for cheap, is that it's not 'new' anymore, as in that 'nice new game you've just bought for yourself as a reward' concept.

I could be playing many backlogs of games, but what drove my spending years ago was basically trying to access a game to try based on what youtube reviews or what other youtubers are playing... You suddenly get an urge to replay a old game if your favorite streamer starts playing it and you get nostalgia factors from it...

That's technically marketing too in a way, watching people play games at random could drive you to want to replay or buy it to play.

Then after some time, that drive fades away as you lose interest again.

This does mean that one's interest is not self-driven, but motivated by external social needs though.

If people want something cool with experimental ideas like community based crafting survival stuff, maybe look into multiplayer mods for older co-op games or something, to see if there is some sort of interesting niche no one tried yet?

[TimsGamingDen]

Applause for the monologue!

That no one reads...

[HypeR]

Totally agree, mobile game with better graphics on pc with every 6 weeks wipe , BIG NO

[SilvaBlad3]

Originally posted by HypeR:

Totally agree, mobile game with better graphics on pc with every 6 weeks wipe , BIG NO

lol it was never released on mobile since just recently??

[Grahf]

Originally posted by SilvaBlad3:

Originally posted by HypeR:

Totally agree, mobile game with better graphics on pc with every 6 weeks wipe , BIG NO

lol it was never released on mobile since just recently??

It was originally on PC only but then they baited and switched and now its mostly mobile it seems as they dumbed everything down lol.

[DatBoi]

Once again I'll be laughing my ass off when you drones leave this game because it is just another copypasta mobile to PC port game. """Gamers""" disparately need to touch grass more than once a month

[SilvaBlad3]

Originally posted by DatBoi:

Once again I'll be laughing my ass off when you drones leave this game because it is just another copypasta mobile to PC port game. """Gamers""" disparately need to touch grass more than once a month

Nah sun’s too hot. Ain’t goin nowhere

[Deadly]

Kids these Days...

[TAI]

Originally posted by SilvaBlad3:

Originally posted by DatBoi:

Once again I'll be laughing my ass off when you drones leave this game because it is just another copypasta mobile to PC port game. """Gamers""" disparately need to touch grass more than once a month

Nah sun’s too hot. Ain’t goin nowhere

You have a point, it's too hot to even walk my dog. Living in any SEAs region, it's hot especially during summer. Now even in America they're having heatwave. So "touching grass" literally is impossible unless you wanna have a heat stroke.

Well the good thing is, I won't even drop a cent in this game. I've already spent too much on one of NetEase's game for years already (a miracle it's still alive more than 5 years). So even if I do end up playing this game, I can easily drop it once it becomes trash later on(aka putting progress via paywall). The only games I regret playin are the ones I actually spent money on.

And I'll get real with you people NEW to games like these comin from Asia. I only avoid 2 gaming companies besides Konami. And that's Nexon and NetMarble. QUITE infamous with putting a lot of stuff behind a paywall. Those are the types of predatory, scummy mtx you have to avoid.

[Kaeru]

Didn't ask.

[Elric of Swoleniboné]

Originally posted by Modda 🠉🠊🠋🠋🠋:

Originally posted by Skye:

Interesting take. I wonder if it feels similar to a mobile game because it is in fact for mobile devices. Honestly, even in the game people did not check the website before playing. It clearly says Steam, Windows, Epic, iOS, and Google Play. So keep in mind those limitations

People don't read then look stupid like this, it's a mobile game not catered to westerners. Also paid companies he brought up have been known to rinse players before one of them did it recently *cough* Ark *cough* his own rant made him look like a hypocrite. It's a simpler crafting system still better than I thought not amazing but not bad actually.

Calling a trash game trash does not in fact make one look stupid.
More so make you look like a corpo shill.