new lootbox a pain still

[D WOOD]

I literally been fighting get the 4x4 skin but no I end up with everything else but that why can't have vehicle skins out of the lootboxes like make some options for us gamer that can't afford drop that much at once it to much. gambling game at this point shouldn't be aloud.

[Panther`]

100% agree, gambling in games should be banned worldwide but while people are willing to pay for them studios / publishers will keep on selling them. You should check out the percentages;

This on Steam:
Lightforge Loot Crate: Hype Party Probability Announcement

Availability: December 20 - January 15
Loot Crate Item Drop Rates:
1. Legendary Lightforge Collection (Gold): 0.9%
Includes the Heartwave Odyssey Territory Gift Pack, Urban Jurassic Set, and Genesis - Crossbow.
2. Epic Lightforge Collection (Purple): 3.15%
Includes the Neon Blade - Sword and Melody and Dino Cradle Theme Pack.
3. Other Epic Rewards (Purple): 50.65%
Includes the Duo Action: Rap Buddy, Small Garage - Wisdom Ring, Pixel Geek - MPS7, Stellar Jeans, Weapon Charm: Curious Little Fellow, Aria Hairstyle Pack, Sticker: On Target, and Sticker: Smiley.
4. Other Rare Rewards (Blue): 45.30%
Includes the Solo Action: Try Harder, Aviator's Hat, Golden Tango, Weapon Charm: Lightning Fast, Cradle Charm: Finger Skateboarding, Decal: Explorer, and Pearl Tears Paint Pack.
* You can open up to 150 Lightforge Loot Crates: Hype Party.

Now you could get lucky and get what you want from the first crate you open which makes the cosmetic you want seem good value or you could buy dozens or 100+ crates and still not get the item.

Yes the game needs funding as it FTP so its either sell cosmetics (which I do not have an issue with, I've spent some money on 1 clothing set and a couple of battle passes) or we will soon end up with something like 'Pure o2' from Ready Player One.

TLDR: cosmetics for set prices = fine. Loot boxes = money grabbing BS

[TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S]

To be fair this was same with the 1st car skin as well why would you even think that the car skin would drop before anything else the loot boxes are obviously build around that unless you really wish to bet on those 0.? % chances.

[D WOOD]

finally got after 240 dollars but not as bad as the other lootcrate for the car skin

[Fartex]

aahhh... the good old "surprise game mechanics" lootbox.

there is a youtuber called Dovaz, that actually opens lootboxes ( there are more i know).
while watching this video, i got actually very disgusted on how these "surprise game mechanics" are working.
at one point he just got all doubles, nothing new. aha! but here is the kicker: they keep you going because you can "earn" lightforge gems, and it just so happens that you need 10 (?) of those to buy the actual car skin?
not only that, on his very FIRST roll he already got doubles.

There is a reason why belgium and the netherlands are strongly against games that have these mechanics.
for example: diablo immortal, is just not even downloadable here in belgium because of ther "surprise game mechanics"

Originally posted by D WOOD:

finally got after 240 dollars but not as bad as the other lootcrate for the car skin

i really feel for you man, seriously. however, i am not going to say that no one should or could do what they do with their own money, its yours not mine, in the end.( and im not having a go at you, its just sad that you had to spend this amount for a skin).

but what i wil say is that with the amount of money some people spend on games, just to get a skin, makes me wonder how far some people are willing to go, just to get a different set of pixels, on the things they are using in game.

and last but not least:

you can all thank EA for the kind of crap that companies are pulling off in their games these days. i mean, look at their FIFA series: filled with surprise game mechanics, which they then started to import in all their other games, and off course, other companies followed.

EA, Blizzard, Activision, ubi soft, bethesda......

there us a reason that all of these companies are on my personal boycot list. if its not money grabbing, then its just the blatant releasing of games that should not even be in alpha stage. " Nah bro, the game is fine, the modders will take care of it for us!!!"

[TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S]

Grats on the car skin.

Originally posted by Fartex:

aahhh... the good old "surprise game mechanics" lootbox.

there is a youtuber called Dovaz, that actually opens lootboxes ( there are more i know).
while watching this video, i got actually very disgusted on how these "surprise game mechanics" are working.
at one point he just got all doubles, nothing new. aha! but here is the kicker: they keep you going because you can "earn" lightforge gems, and it just so happens that you need 10 (?) of those to buy the actual car skin?
not only that, on his very FIRST roll he already got doubles.

There is a reason why belgium and the netherlands are strongly against games that have these mechanics.
for example: diablo immortal, is just not even downloadable here in belgium because of ther "surprise game mechanics"

Originally posted by D WOOD:

finally got after 240 dollars but not as bad as the other lootcrate for the car skin

i really feel for you man, seriously. however, i am not going to say that no one should or could do what they do with their own money, its yours not mine, in the end.( and im not having a go at you, its just sad that you had to spend this amount for a skin).

but what i wil say is that with the amount of money some people spend on games, just to get a skin, makes me wonder how far some people are willing to go, just to get a different set of pixels, on the things they are using in game.

and last but not least:

you can all thank EA for the kind of crap that companies are pulling off in their games these days. i mean, look at their FIFA series: filled with surprise game mechanics, which they then started to import in all their other games, and off course, other companies followed.

EA, Blizzard, Activision, ubi soft, bethesda......

there us a reason that all of these companies are on my personal boycot list. if its not money grabbing, then its just the blatant releasing of games that should not even be in alpha stage. " Nah bro, the game is fine, the modders will take care of it for us!!!"

Yea this is something i see lately more and more and makes me ask same question how far ppl are gonna push it so the devs can make more and more greedy gacha systems...
its everyone's money and so dont need to care sure but still how far we are from like 1000 euro/dollars per gacha at this rate....the games are getting more and more trash with more bugs yet gachas and loot boxes are always in day 1 and more expensive with each new game each year..

[DtHouse]

Just don't buy them. I never bought a stupid lootboxs in all the game i've played. I'm ok with buy a cosmetics if i like it, i'm not ok on gambling. Lootboxs it's just legalized gambling, since there only few country that banned him and that game have very bad number in that place. This mean that we are just a bounce of stupid and we like to get stripped of our money

[Svlyn]

I have an addiction to game play but not a gambling addiction. I have no desire to own a 800 dollar US skin in a game that is going to be a distant memory in a few years.

[Millie Sec]

I just ignore them. There are many far better skin/car in other game. I can't see those skin are very well for the theme of once human. such as kung fu outfit, once human never played any fung fu fighting, and even melee friendly. And the pirate outfit is not much sense, there is almost no ship in once human. As to dolling character and animated avatar, I suggest to play Second Life instead, there can 100% control the appearance of your character, from toes to hair. from inside to outside, from human to non-human. It is not really worth to spend too much for appearance in this game. If they want to sell appearance, please give us a freely zooming avatar function first, at least.

[Halarus]

Get net-eased nerd

[SaberToothDeathMouse]

Originally posted by Fartex:

aahhh... the good old "surprise game mechanics" lootbox.

there is a youtuber called Dovaz, that actually opens lootboxes ( there are more i know).
while watching this video, i got actually very disgusted on how these "surprise game mechanics" are working.
at one point he just got all doubles, nothing new. aha! but here is the kicker: they keep you going because you can "earn" lightforge gems, and it just so happens that you need 10 (?) of those to buy the actual car skin?
not only that, on his very FIRST roll he already got doubles.

There is a reason why belgium and the netherlands are strongly against games that have these mechanics.
for example: diablo immortal, is just not even downloadable here in belgium because of ther "surprise game mechanics"

Originally posted by D WOOD:

finally got after 240 dollars but not as bad as the other lootcrate for the car skin

i really feel for you man, seriously. however, i am not going to say that no one should or could do what they do with their own money, its yours not mine, in the end.( and im not having a go at you, its just sad that you had to spend this amount for a skin).

but what i wil say is that with the amount of money some people spend on games, just to get a skin, makes me wonder how far some people are willing to go, just to get a different set of pixels, on the things they are using in game.

and last but not least:

you can all thank EA for the kind of crap that companies are pulling off in their games these days. i mean, look at their FIFA series: filled with surprise game mechanics, which they then started to import in all their other games, and off course, other companies followed.

EA, Blizzard, Activision, ubi soft, bethesda......

there us a reason that all of these companies are on my personal boycot list. if its not money grabbing, then its just the blatant releasing of games that should not even be in alpha stage. " Nah bro, the game is fine, the modders will take care of it for us!!!"

Best post ever. All the way down to the last line. I've heard they are bringing back the "Pyroglide" skin for the motorcycle "soon". I would really love to have that, but I don't even go to real casinos (and I live in Oklahoma!!). I'd be much happier to just outright BUY the skin like you can other cosmetics. I'm not going to gamble for it just to end up with a bunch of stupid "stickers" and charms and crap I have ZERO interest in.

Not to derail this discussion, but I 100% agree with the "Nah bro, the game is fine, the modders will take care of it for us!!". Way too many games like that these days.

[D WOOD]

oh im not buying anymore we all need to stop feeding into it, it is so bad..

[Sugamotomagazaki]

gambling is a no for me, i had it with Atlantica online (Nexon back then) not to mention the scandal with it in several other titles.

[TemplarGFX]

Look at the number of lightforge gems required to buy something, the higher the number the lower the chance you have to get it by loot boxing. There is a reason they give it a high gem cost, because they know people want it and can make serious bank off it via gems.

You could just buy the gems outright and then purchase the car skin, but of course gems are idiotically expensive

[VAMPIRE]

idk the game is dying tho, its turned into a gacha gambling nightmare. This "new" content that we been waiting months for.. is a manibus reskin, with mechanics just to be annoying.

YET, the focused on gambling cosmetics that can cost hundreds and want $30 per light forge crystal (which is insane) if you dont want to gamble. Literally the last car skin was $600 dollars. Not to mention, they pay wall the achievements. So you have to grind them and then PAY. Scummy ass devs man.

This game was SOO good at lauch with 300k+ ppl.. and tbh they fumbled the bag so hard man. Seems they only care about money n thats a bout it.