Once Human
forsaken giant immune to all elements
what the hell is this, why is it immune to what is already considered one of the weakest build styles, do the devs just hate burn builds why not just remove them then, my entire build is pointless in this fight and i now have to change my entire build for one boss. there are a lot of things that annoy me in the game but overall i was enjoying it, but this honestly pisses me off so much i might just call it quits here

edit : i have found it the boss is immune to all elemental effects, like what the hell so this game really is go shrapnel or dont bother, cause elemental builds do less raw damage in turn for doing elemental,
Dernière modification de Mr. Squeakers; 3 sept. 2024 à 9h55
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Djozar a écrit :
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There are a few bosses that are immune to status effects which is bad
It's not bad... it makes you bring the right tools for the job. Learn the mechanics to counter.

Except that the game is geared around using one build per season...
From what I can tell, This fight is the same no matter what build you use.
Djozar 2 sept. 2024 à 18h19 
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Djozar a écrit :
It's not bad... it makes you bring the right tools for the job. Learn the mechanics to counter.

Except that the game is geared around using one build per season...
No it isn't.. lmao. Keep reaching.
Seems to me that 99% still go for the frag or freeze builds, everyone hates the fire builds because of the pw lag they generate. Personally I use fire and shock. Mostly smg's and rifles. Don't use pistols, sniper, shotguns etc. Haven't done the giant yet, game gets really boring after you hit 50 it's just mod grinding and resource grinding to max level gear.. then. Nothing.
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Mr. Squeakers a écrit :
me.
so no one important
you would know
Djozar a écrit :
Isaac_Clark a écrit :

Except that the game is geared around using one build per season...
No it isn't.. lmao. Keep reaching.
no it is, literally the way the gear works pushes you to it
Mr. Squeakers a écrit :
cause i like building for burn ticks and watching enemies explode while on fire its fun, hell burn isnt even considered a good build by most people.

So then you're building your own niche build that you recognize is not optimal, then complaining that it doesn't work... [/quote]

i never said it wasnt a good build, i burn through enemies of higher level easily, its just not a meta build i copied from a build online, honestly the way gear works there is only one or two ways to build for any ability in the game so searching for meta builds is kinda pointless
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Mr. Squeakers a écrit :
so toss aside the gear and weapons iv looked for and built up and grinded for cause the devs decided half the intended builds in the game should not be effective on this boss, no im sorry, but i wanna enjoy the game not grind out a new build on regular, and im not using a meta build, building for burn isnt exactly hard to figure out and it fun. sorry i hate these answers, i cna understand making it resistant or have another lement be stronger but out right ignoreing all elmental status effects when half the weapons and mods and gear in the game are geared towards using them, is asinine

Just offering some advice based on my experimentation and experiences playing the game, and you don't necessarily have to do a complete new build, just swapping out some mods could make the fight a bit easier, At the end of the day though it's your choice how you want to play and what builds you want to use.
I do however disagree with you about it being stupid that the Giant has multiple resistances (although an enemy which is basically a tree being resistant to fire is a bit odd, must be green wood) but that is I think the whole point. As I said, it is supposed to be a hard fight and instead of designing an enemy that is just a bullet sponge the dev's decided to do something different that requires players to think about how they approach the fight, so is that really stupid or is it rather clever?.

i have to disagree on this point, if it was a optional boss people could skip sure, but making a boss required for main story progression immune to half the builds possible in the game is very asinine
burn is not good for everything, just like bounce is not good for everything, and the r500 memento is not good for everything

but unstable bomber is good for everything
power surge is good for everything
the bullseye with hunter leather boots is good for everything

invest in things that are good, and disregard crappy weapons that don't work for everything
Dogemon a écrit :
burn is not good for everything, just like bounce is not good for everything, and the r500 memento is not good for everything

but unstable bomber is good for everything
power surge is good for everything
the bullseye with hunter leather boots is good for everything

invest in things that are good, and disregard crappy weapons that don't work for everything
so ignore what is fun for me and go with meta, got it, no
Mr. Squeakers a écrit :
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so ignore what is fun for me and go with meta, got it, no
enjoy being a useless leech in group pve content I guess
if you're not willing to do the bare minimum to be an asset to the team, why even play pve?
go to pvp servers if you just want to be a selfish solo player
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Mr. Squeakers a écrit :
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so ignore what is fun for me and go with meta, got it, no
enjoy being a useless leech in group pve content I guess
if you're not willing to do the bare minimum to be an asset to the team, why even play pve?
go to pvp servers if you just want to be a selfish solo player
ah a elitist gamer, bold to assume im a leech on my groups, but you would make that assumption as a leech on society you only expect it from others
Stop crying. My mp7 outerspace was enough to solo the forsaken on my 2nd try. Power surge was completely useless against the boss, but it was still working on the normal/elite enemies there.

Im sure your gun is better than my short-ranged smg hitting the boss' weakspots.
The giant is a bit of a different boss then all the rest. The only part you actually need dps for is taking out the adds (which all builds work on). The boss itself has a damage cap each vulnerability phase that you will hit even with the crummiest of weapons. The fight is all about watching the boss and learning the patterns. I also thought it was impossible at first, but once I had it down, it became the easiest of the end game content to do. Just took a little time and patience.
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Stop crying. My mp7 outerspace was enough to solo the forsaken on my 2nd try. Power surge was completely useless against the boss, but it was still working on the normal/elite enemies there.

Im sure your gun is better than my short-ranged smg hitting the boss' weakspots.
you are correct but about the wrong thing, im not crying cause i cant beat the boss

i went into the first fight expecting to lose but learn the mechanics, i still got it to he last bar of health and only lost in the end due to me messing up and not paying attention, the overall mechanics are actually fairly easy and straight forward and the boss is more a fight of attrition then difficulty.

im pissed that the boss is immune to half the build designs but not the other half, when here is no real lead up to it, im told there are two other bosses immune to other elements but none immune to all elements, it would be different if it was all ability builds but its not, only the elements,

its bad game design if you are gonna have stuff like that the elites and trash mobs in the open world need to also have stuff like that so that people understand they need variety to their builds, not just have one boss almost at the very end make half the builds pointless for that one boss only

ill say it again it is bad game design, and that is what pisses me off, and you can say im crying all you want, it wont change what it is. why dont you stop being a elitist and being trashy to people calling out bad designs just cause they want to enjoy their games and not play the meta.

honestly if the answer is suck it up butter cup and play the meta, why do the other option even exist

p.s. from what i understand SMGs out dmg LMGs so it is unlikely your weapon was worse then mine with the elemental status effect removed
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