Replace Gacha Boxes with Set Price Shop Items

[🎶Alleine Dragonfyre]

Summary
Gacha boxes in the game are causing resentment among players due to their high cost and the feeling of getting nothing in return. This system is seen as anti-player and dishonest, especially as it seems to normalize gambling for younger players. A more player-friendly and honest approach would be to sell shop items at a set price.

Reasoning
Gacha boxes are expensive and can make players feel poor, negatively impacting their gaming experience.
The current system is perceived as dishonest and anti-player.
There are concerns about the message this system sends to younger players about gambling.
Selling shop items at a set price is seen as a more honest and straightforward approach.

You can upvote my Feedback on their official Discord because this shiznit needs to STOP. Do you agree? https://discord.com/channels/864458335532744716/1278823394732806247/1278823394732806247

[Deinsensai]

Totaly agree with you, this Loot Box System is just a scam and is already illegal in many countries aswell in mine, its just a pitty disgusting manipulation to abuse (addicted) people to get all their money or the whole wage, i will not support this BS, so do i hope other folks won´t either and ignore this.

[A Flaccid G7]

Honestly agreed; i'd like to see them do what PoE does at the very least - after the box cycles out, put the items in the shop for a set price. I'd drop 20$ on the flaming axe skin the same way i dropped 20$ on the Cane Toad Town Portal effect in Poe.

[🎶Alleine Dragonfyre]

Originally posted by A Flaccid G7:

Honestly agreed; i'd like to see them do what PoE does at the very least - after the box cycles out, put the items in the shop for a set price. I'd drop 20$ on the flaming axe skin the same way i dropped 20$ on the Cane Toad Town Portal effect in Poe.

I'll spend a lot of money if I know what I am getting. I won't gamble, and now I feel left out. It's terrible.

[BrutalDeluxe]

Yes. I bought the battle pass as per any game I enjoy, but will NEVER buy a lootbox / crate.
I would spend more on skins at a set price, especially if there were more styles on offer and they were priced fairly

[NoxJS]

They are koreans, or chinese, and this is also a mobile game. It was expected to have the worst and greediest business model ever... the GATCHA model.

Gatcha business models, asking at the end for thousands of bucks for just a single skin, is what you will always see in any game coming from those countries. There is nothing we can do about that. They always aim to make billions with just one dev working a couple of days on a skin or a character. Greedy and lazy, because selling them for just 20bucks will still keep incomings high enough to continue working on the game, even if F2P.

They are greedy, and we are just cows to milk for them. They have no limit on that, no common sense at all. But mainly, they know that beyond some very rich whale here and there, there are also tons of players with ludopathy issues who don't have tons of money but keep throwing them on loot boxes like in casinò slot machine, These are the people they actually aim to milk.

The only way to make these greedy companies to stop with these scammy practices, which can cause ludopathy issues even on persons who never had them before because they don't like casiinò stuff but like videogames (and this is the worst part becasue basically KR/CH created another form of ludopathy), are governments introducing laws against it.

And I hope soon or later something will happen to stop this plague. Unfortunately politicians are so old that neither know what a video game is. They still think that people playing GTA become serial killers in real life.. so we are not in a good sport at the moment. Prolly next generation.

[Dave from work]

Not only is the WAY you unlock cosmetics horrible.
But the cosmetics are horrible too.

I wouldnt use them if they gifted them for free, especially this new one.

[🎶Alleine Dragonfyre]

Originally posted by BrutalDeluxe:

Yes. I bought the battle pass as per any game I enjoy, but will NEVER buy a lootbox / crate.
I would spend more on skins at a set price, especially if there were more styles on offer and they were priced fairly

Myself and my partner both bought the Battle Pass and many cosmetics on the shop (territory ones we share which was nice of Starry to allow us to do) because WE CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE GETTING. I don't understand the need for these lootboxes. It's so shady and unnecessary.

Originally posted by NoxJS:

They are koreans, or chinese, and this is also a mobile game. It was expected to have the worst and greediest business model ever... the GATCHA model.

Gatcha business models, asking at the end for thousands of bucks for just a single skin, is what you will always see in any game coming from those countries. There is nothing we can do about that. They always aim to make billions with just one dev working a couple of days on a skin or a character. Greedy and lazy, because selling them for just 20bucks will still keep incomings high enough to continue working on the game, even if F2P.

They are greedy, and we are just cows to milk for them. They have no limit on that, no common sense at all. But mainly, they know that beyond some very rich whale here and there, there are also tons of players with ludopathy issues who don't have tons of money but keep throwing them on loot boxes like in casinò slot machine, These are the people they actually aim to milk.

The only way to make these greedy companies to stop with these scammy practices, which can cause ludopathy issues even on persons who never had them before because they don't like casiinò stuff but like videogames (and this is the worst part becasue basically KR/CH created another form of ludopathy), are governments introducing laws against it.

And I hope soon or later something will happen to stop this plague. Unfortunately politicians are so old that neither know what a video game is. They still think that people playing GTA become serial killers in real life.. so we are not in a good sport at the moment. Prolly next generation.

Legal intervention and people refusing to pay (which will never happen). I really hate that we have to make laws to force people to be good to each other FFS. Starry you had such an opportunity to be the good guys. You still do, it's not too late.

[🎶Alleine Dragonfyre]

Thank you to those that have upvoted the feedback in Discord.

[MKUltra]

One does not simply deal with the devil, NetEase are famous to kill their own games with these moves. High hope i had still i dont think they would listened to the consumer on this.

[Xarian-Prime]

Yep, 100 Percent Agree!

I had no issues dropping cash on the greenhouse cosmetic, and a few gun/clothing ones.
In no way will i drop a ton of cash on a 'maybe'
That feels stupid and insulting.
We were off to a good start.. why do game company's always pull this crap, the idea is old, outdated and whomever is still pushing it on a corporate level should be drawn and quartered in the town square so everyone understands just how insulting the idea is for the end consumer and just how out of touch these marketing teams are..

Again.. give a set price for the shiny things.. any most will at least consider it.
Lock it behind a RNG based 'game of chance' and your only ripping yourself off.

[BarrettAKD]

I hope that one day Steam will definitely ban gacha based games from its store.

[Baked Cans]

Originally posted by BarrettAKD:

I hope that one day Steam will definitely ban gacha based games from its store.

... Okay .... . . . ... but then wouldn't they have to also banned Counter Strike which is their flagship property right now?

[Taschenbier]

The game is an online casino currently.
Furthermore so far their servers are not within a special country area it is even illegal in my country. I cannot read an online casino license within their legal notice. The game could be banned.
The price model of gacha boxes is pretty much too high for only skins.

They must provide an online casino license and they should lower the price drastically asap.
Alternative they should remove that feature asap.

[Baked Cans]

Originally posted by Taschenbier:

The game is an online casino currently.
Furthermore so far their servers are not within a special country area it is even illegal in my country. I cannot read an online casino license within their legal notice. The game could be banned.
The price model of gacha boxes is pretty much too high for only skins.

They must provide an online casino license and they should lower the price drastically asap.
Alternative they should remove that feature asap.

only skins is what it has to be because the game is advertised as not P2W. Casino for P2W would be worse.

[Nytar]

wow so upsetti spaghetti over cosmetics... they have things for set prices, they also have guaranteed limits so is a set price with a chance of getting it sooner.

prices are high I will agree... but look at the economy right now... everything is stupidly high priced.

the "loot boxes" are PURELY COSMETIC. there is no pay to win. there is no "loot" in them, just different looking pixels. they start giving out actual working camo or invisibility then complain about the PvP aspect. till then... this is silly. so the "loot boxes" are actually "Vanity Boxes" and almost all of it is in the purchase shop.

the loot box pay to win thing is what people USED to be upset about. but you are literally upset over pay to look pretty?

if you dont like chance boxes for cosmetics... just dont play them...