Fix the ALT Account

[ImGrinding]

It’s unbelievable that after five seasons, the issue of alternate accounts still persists. This is killing the game because one person can have multiple accounts—using one to create a farming base in the safe zone to store all materials, and another to build a disposable base in contested zones. This way, they never lose anything and can farm endlessly. Fix this problem, and I’ll come back to play. An amazing game, but managed with shocking negligence.

Edit after 10 hours: Im talking about PVP server, PRISM Deviation server

[wingzeroz98]

same IP account banning yes please. got a guy next to me currently with 5 houses all connected all lv15-17 with one of them being lv50 its insane that one guy can take up that much space on prime land

[Dark Savior]

Originally posted by wingzeroz98:

same IP account banning yes please. got a guy next to me currently with 5 houses all connected all lv15-17 with one of them being lv50 its insane that one guy can take up that much space on prime land

And what stops people from using a VPN.

[Earthy]

Originally posted by ImGrinding:

It’s unbelievable that after five seasons, the issue of alternate accounts still persists. This is killing the game because one person can have multiple accounts—using one to create a farming base in the safe zone to store all materials, and another to build a disposable base in contested zones. This way, they never lose anything and can farm endlessly. Fix this problem, and I’ll come back to play. An amazing game, but managed with shocking negligence.

for this particular reason it would only punish solo players, hives can continuously do that.

while im not pro alts i dont think this would fix people using disposable bases, you do what you have to do.

[Monarch]

Originally posted by wingzeroz98:

same IP account banning yes please. got a guy next to me currently with 5 houses all connected all lv15-17 with one of them being lv50 its insane that one guy can take up that much space on prime land

IP can be spoofed, use HWID ban instead.

Originally posted by Speedy:

for this particular reason it would only punish solo players, hives can continuously do that.

while im not pro alts i dont think this would fix people using disposable bases, you do what you have to do.

The core of the issue with Alts is unfair advantage.
It's kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to say this is a "punishment" to solo players. Get friends, play in a team, join a hive. What's stopping you?

INB4: Solo players doesn't want to play with others.
Well then that's your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem. It's an MMO designed around cooperative team play.

[LostME]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by wingzeroz98:

same IP account banning yes please. got a guy next to me currently with 5 houses all connected all lv15-17 with one of them being lv50 its insane that one guy can take up that much space on prime land

IP can be spoofed, use HWID ban instead.

Originally posted by Speedy:

for this particular reason it would only punish solo players, hives can continuously do that.

while im not pro alts i dont think this would fix people using disposable bases, you do what you have to do.

The core of the issue with Alts is unfair advantage.
It's kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to say this is a "punishment" to solo players. Get friends, play in a team, join a hive. What's stopping you?

INB4: Solo players doesn't want to play with others.
Well then that's your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ problem. It's an MMO designed around cooperative team play.

Lol, that's your problem. What's advantage? Fuel is afk farmed, acid afk comes from harvest, the rest depends on luck and random in the specialization. Give me the opportunity to normally choose the necessary specializations and I will refuse of my 1 alt XD

By the way, as far as I understand, when people block something with five alts, they can be banned or territory removed for this. Just make a report.

[Monarch]

Originally posted by LostME:

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Lol, that's your problem. What's advantage? Fuel is afk farmed, acid afk comes from harvest, the rest depends on luck and random in the specialization. Give me the opportunity to normally choose the necessary specializations and I will refuse of my 1 alt XD

By the way, as far as I understand, when people block something with five alts, they can be banned or territory removed for this. Just make a report.

My problem for what?

Advantage being specialisation.
The game is an MMO regardless how much of an anti-social unloveable weirdo you are.
The developers wants interactions and economy between players, it's the reason why World(server) sizes are getting reduced, and Scenario choices are getting minimised.

One player having access to more than one player can normally have allows them to not having the need to interact with others who have it genuinely and legitimately.

Why someone would be so loud and proud about how they have no friends / nobody wants to be their friend to help them out is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild to me.

[Khissi]

Wouldn't that sorta ruin things for husband/wives that play together and live in the same place? I don't really understand IPs as such, but, don't we have the same one?

[LostME]

Originally posted by Monarch:

Originally posted by LostME:

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Lol, that's your problem. What's advantage? Fuel is afk farmed, acid afk comes from harvest, the rest depends on luck and random in the specialization. Give me the opportunity to normally choose the necessary specializations and I will refuse of my 1 alt XD

By the way, as far as I understand, when people block something with five alts, they can be banned or territory removed for this. Just make a report.

My problem for what?

Advantage being specialisation.
The game is an MMO regardless how much of an anti-social unloveable weirdo you are.
The developers wants interactions and economy between players, it's the reason why World(server) sizes are getting reduced, and Scenario choices are getting minimised.

One player having access to more than one player can normally have allows them to not having the need to interact with others who have it genuinely and legitimately.

Why someone would be so loud and proud about how they have no friends / nobody wants to be their friend to help them out is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wild to me.

They reduced the number of worlds because the servers can't handle it and lag. They also don't need to handle hundreds of thousands of online players anymore.

Lol, the economy is dead because of the stupid trading system. I haven't seen such garbage since Ultima Online.

I played many MMOs and alts were a must have XD

Don't compare people to yourself. It's the 4th season and I have friends and a hive, but I don't want to bother someone if I need for example, craft food. Like hey dude, drop everything run and craft me some buffed bread XDD

Again, what advantage does a solo player with alts have in specialization over you, a social player who has other people from the hive do everything for you?

Lol, are you lazy or just don't have time for an alt? Well, as you said, this is an MMO and players with a lot of playtime have an advantage.

[LostME]

Originally posted by Khissi:

Wouldn't that sorta ruin things for husband/wives that play together and live in the same place? I don't really understand IPs as such, but, don't we have the same one?

Yes, you have one IP. Moreover, (I don't know how it is in your country) in mine, a separate external IP is a paid service and most have one IP for dozens PCs. Don't worry, they won't kill the alts, at most they'll limit the number and even then players will have to monitor it. It's just that some whiners think that if they remove the alts they'll have the opportunity to take better places for the base, but that's not true, they're slow and lazy XD

[Serangel]

The only way it will get fixed is the make alts useless. The main reason players make alts is the terrible memetic specialization non sense. The RNG from makes it atrocious. They should just make it a tech tree for the different types and allow players to do the ones they want or even all of them if they want to put the time into how ever you gain points or exp to get more specializations. 10 at random is a bad call.

The second reason people make alts is resource farms. Unless youre super lucky to get a spot with both acid and oil you'll have to use an alt to get both. Just add independent pumps that work anywhere and increase their output. That way you only need 5 or 10 pumps max to get the fuel, water, and acid you need instead of 6 or 8 alts with 20-30 pumps each.c

Same with crops for deviated products. At best you'll get 50% of your crops as deviated even with 20 bees and using the fertilizer which is a rediculous amount of work, its easier to just have 10 alts with 200 crops each and let RNG give you all the deviated crops you'll want for food. Give us deviated seeds and make food not spoil. Problem solved.

[saurce]

Originally posted by wingzeroz98:

same IP account banning yes please. got a guy next to me currently with 5 houses all connected all lv15-17 with one of them being lv50 its insane that one guy can take up that much space on prime land

Hey it's great that you choose to be a loner but all of us with children/wives/girlfriends/family/friends/roommates that also play the game in the same house as us would think your "solution" is astonishingly clueless and short-sighted.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by saurce:

Originally posted by wingzeroz98:

same IP account banning yes please. got a guy next to me currently with 5 houses all connected all lv15-17 with one of them being lv50 its insane that one guy can take up that much space on prime land

Hey it's great that you choose to be a loner but all of us with children/wives/girlfriends/family/friends/roommates that also play the game in the same house as us would think your "solution" is astonishingly clueless and short-sighted.

Instead of belittling and gating one's opinions, how about giving an alternative solution?

Hardware lock is a great solution. But IP will work as well. THose within the household will teach the cheater to not cheat.

SOrry, but using family as an excuse to allow cheaters to continue with exploiting is just sad on your part.

[saurce]

Originally posted by EvilHare:

Originally posted by saurce:

Hey it's great that you choose to be a loner but all of us with children/wives/girlfriends/family/friends/roommates that also play the game in the same house as us would think your "solution" is astonishingly clueless and short-sighted.

Instead of belittling and gating one's opinions, how about giving an alternative solution?

Hardware lock is a great solution. But IP will work as well. THose within the household will teach the cheater to not cheat.

SOrry, but using family as an excuse to allow cheaters to continue with exploiting is just sad on your part.

This guy is talking about alts that people use. So, presumably, one person working within the same living space with multiple accounts. Okay. So we've established that.

If you ban any additional accounts playing from the same IP address at the same time, then I guess you have sort of brute-force found the solution. But this doesn't account for the part of the player base who each own separate individual accounts, but live at the same house.

The accounts of these individual members by definition are NOT alternate accounts, thus they are NOT breaking any rules, thus they should NOT be penalized due to the actions of people who DO exploit.

So, by just implementing a base IP ban, you would unnecessarily ban all those innocent players because they happen to live in the same household.

I also don't need to offer any other solutions. HWID is the best choice, obviously.

This should be obvious to anyone who has spent more than a few seconds to consider this.

Finally, I'm not using anything as an "excuse" to exploit. Very assumptive on your part what my intentions are. Noted. Good bye forever, friendo.

[Bubbasan]

Alts suck!

[wingzeroz98]

Originally posted by Khissi:

Wouldn't that sorta ruin things for husband/wives that play together and live in the same place? I don't really understand IPs as such, but, don't we have the same one?

yea but what was mentioned was HWID bans thats what i meant originally but like it wouldnt prevent alts completely but would reduce alot of the alt farmers