Lightforge treasure chests feel like a Scam

[Super Milkers]

I feel so stupid buying 30x lightforge treasure chest just to get a flatscreen LCD in return. Don't let this happen to you

[~KeNnEtH~]

Just don't buy them.


In my opinion, using the current 3-item one for example.

Unless you want at least 2 of the 3 items (LCD TV, the creepy doll cradle, or costume), you should not even spend any amount on it.

If you want to attempt 30 pulls, you should want all 3.

If you want to attempt 60 pulls, you should at least want 2 of them.

If you want to attempt 90 pulls, you can want any 1 of them.

Any less than that is really just gambling and the house always wins. There is a chance of course but unless you really have the disposable income to do it, just don't.


If you want to spend on lightforge crates, the only price points (in crystagins) you should have in mind are:
(a) 4,000
(b) 8,800
(c) 13,600
(d) 18,400
(e) 23,200

If you are not prepared to hit any of those amounts, do not even attempt.

If you want to attempt, my opinion is:

(a) 30 pulls = you need to want any of the (5 or 3)
(b) 60 pulls = you need to want any 4 of the (5 or 3)
(c) 90 pulls = you need to want any 3 of the (5 or 3)
(d) 120 pulls = you need to want any 2 of the 5
(e) 150 pulls = you can want any 1 of the 5

[NoxJS]

Welcome to korea and china games business models where they ask you to literally pay their house rent if you like a game and want to collect everything you like month after month.

Cant wait for some regulation here in the West that will destroy their gambling and greedy practices.

If lootboxes are a norm there, fine, add them as primary incoming source on your games, but adjust the prices to what you actually obtain. Spending a Console price at the end for a single skin every month is pur evil. If they would cut the prices in order to spend 30-40bucks in total, that would be a huge step to be a fair system, and they would actually increase the incomings as not only whales would buy them but many other players too.

But nope, they have always been greedy as f aiming for big numbers only.

[DarkEternal]

They pretty much are. 9 times out of 10, you're not getting the good prize until you spend that last bit of the $300.

[Svlyn]

The worst gambling odds in the world are in the game. I would never ever waste money on a loot crate. It is license to steal. My husband works for a casino and they have an 11 percent chance to win. The loot crate drops in this game are .06. Your chances of getting anything good for little money are slim to none. I also think they have it set so that after a certain amount of money is spent you get your items. You get the skin at 250 US dollars and other rare items at 600 dollars. You have to be rich to play the loot crates and enjoy wasting your cash as well.

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by Super Milkers:

I feel so stupid buying 30x lightforge treasure chest just to get a flatscreen LCD in return. Don't let this happen to you

You chose to gamble. The loot box is optional.

User error

[Xaelon]

They're not a scam. They publish the rates and entire inventory for every lightforge crate days before the crates are avalible. They can't really be any more transparent than that.

What they are is a waste of money. Like they are in every game. At least in OH they just contain cosmetics.

Unless you want most of what's on offer from a crate you should stay far, far away. The chance to get the exclusive goodies is small enough that you should expect to do 30 draws for each one you want. If you only want a single one, there's always the chance it'll be the last of the 3 you get.

So just be prepared to do 90 draws. If the cost to do 90 draws is too much, then don't buy any crates.

[76561198014396959]

30 is ridiculous, some people buy more than 100 and are not happy, but I think you have to recognize the fact that it's always a lure. And whoever wants to get something will spend everything until the last one, it's like a casino.

[Morotheri]

Should be able to buy what I want at comparable prices to the stuff already selling outside of gatcha in game. The halloween settlement skins should be the price of any other settlement BP pack.

[무궁화]

it is a scam

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by 무궁화:

it is a scam

Loot box is still optional

[Zero Cool]

scam NO gambling YES ...

[⟨⧹▾⧸⟩]

The price of gambling, but to what end? it will repeat again if you dont stop yourself

[RadKit]

Originally posted by Super Milkers:

I feel so stupid buying 30x lightforge treasure chest just to get a flatscreen LCD in return. Don't let this happen to you

I agree, its heavily implied that they are giving you a 1 in 3 chance at 30/90 to get the top prize... but they are not.

You have to go to 90/90 or... 150/150 or even 300/300 for some of the others... you won't get the top prize early unless you get it on the .01% chance.

It's a terrible system.

[deNully]

it is a free game after all, they have to get some money out of people somehow to finance them. This way they get the streamers who wants to show off having all stuff you can get or the people with to much money or to little financial control. In the end it means the rest of us can enjoy a free game that still gets updates. :D

as long as its only cosmetics, which no one will hardly see if youre not a streamer, then they can throw away as much money as they want :D

[CW5 Savage]

pretty much is a scam reason why i never bother.saw a friend of mine go thru 2 hundred dollars and got crap from it