BREWING BARREL

[jacktan9203]

Why do I get a load of spoiled food from brewing barrel? For example, I added 100 wheat into a brewing barrel and instead of getting 50 beers, I get 30 beers and 40 spoiled food.

[2-1 your move kid]

Because you didn't put the wheat in a fridge after you picked it.

[jacktan9203]

Wheat takes 4 hours to spoil. I put all the wheat inside the brewing barrel. It doesn't make sense that 40 of them will spoil since each beer only takes 20 minutes to produce

[jacktan9203]

Can someone please help?

[Elsa Jean]

It takes 20 minutes to produce 1 beer. So if you put too many resources in, the ones that wait in turn to get processed might get spoilt if it takes too long.

[TAI]

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Why do I get a load of spoiled food from brewing barrel? For example, I added 100 wheat into a brewing barrel and instead of getting 50 beers, I get 30 beers and 40 spoiled food.

My suggestion to you, you don't put all of that in because the brewing time is quite long. And when I brew or ferment anything in those barrels, they have to be FRESH (minus impure acid). Put the rest in the fridge or even better a portable fridge made with gold ores. That or split it and put it in another barrel.

[jacktan9203]

Can you calculate

Originally posted by TAI:

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Why do I get a load of spoiled food from brewing barrel? For example, I added 100 wheat into a brewing barrel and instead of getting 50 beers, I get 30 beers and 40 spoiled food.

My suggestion to you, you don't put all of that in because the brewing time is quite long. And when I brew or ferment anything in those barrels, they have to be FRESH (minus impure acid). Put the rest in the fridge or even better a portable fridge made with gold ores. That or split it and put it in another barrel.

Can you explain how 40 wheat out of 100 wheat decays inside the
barrel given that its 4 hours per decay?

[Elsa Jean]

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Can you calculate

Originally posted by TAI:

My suggestion to you, you don't put all of that in because the brewing time is quite long. And when I brew or ferment anything in those barrels, they have to be FRESH (minus impure acid). Put the rest in the fridge or even better a portable fridge made with gold ores. That or split it and put it in another barrel.

Can you explain how 40 wheat out of 100 wheat decays inside the
barrel given that its 4 hours per decay?

2 wheat per 20 minutes in one slot. Surely you can calculate based on that.

[TAI]

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Can you calculate

Originally posted by TAI:

My suggestion to you, you don't put all of that in because the brewing time is quite long. And when I brew or ferment anything in those barrels, they have to be FRESH (minus impure acid). Put the rest in the fridge or even better a portable fridge made with gold ores. That or split it and put it in another barrel.

Can you explain how 40 wheat out of 100 wheat decays inside the
barrel given that its 4 hours per decay?

Was your wheat fresh? I only ever brew a small amount for fresh ingredients(never 100, remember the 2:1 ratio being used too), and if it were a bigger amount, I would use another barrel, like I said. I can leave non-spoiling material like Impure acid in there for days without worries.

IF you look at the wheat's durability, FRESH from harvesting. They only last 4 hrs tops. And the brewing takes 20 mins EACH(2:1 ratio of 2 wheat: 1 Pure water). So there ya go. That's why you don't put 100 wheat in ONE barrel and expect all of them to come out ok.

[jacktan9203]

Originally posted by TAI:

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Can you calculate





Can you explain how 40 wheat out of 100 wheat decays inside the
barrel given that its 4 hours per decay?

Was your wheat fresh? I only ever brew a small amount for fresh ingredients(never 100, remember the 2:1 ratio being used too), and if it were a bigger amount, I would use another barrel, like I said. I can leave non-spoiling material like Impure acid in there for days without worries.

IF you look at the wheat's durability, FRESH from harvesting. They only last 4 hrs tops. And the brewing takes 20 mins EACH(2:1 ratio of 2 wheat: 1 Pure water). So there ya go. That's why you don't put 100 wheat in ONE barrel and expect all of them to come out ok.

Still, the wheat would take much longer to decay in my inventory than in the barrel given the same amount of time. In 6 hours, I wouldn't find 40 decayed wheat out of 100 fresh wheat in my inventory.

[Bladebuddy]

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Originally posted by TAI:

Was your wheat fresh? I only ever brew a small amount for fresh ingredients(never 100, remember the 2:1 ratio being used too), and if it were a bigger amount, I would use another barrel, like I said. I can leave non-spoiling material like Impure acid in there for days without worries.

IF you look at the wheat's durability, FRESH from harvesting. They only last 4 hrs tops. And the brewing takes 20 mins EACH(2:1 ratio of 2 wheat: 1 Pure water). So there ya go. That's why you don't put 100 wheat in ONE barrel and expect all of them to come out ok.

Still, the wheat would take much longer to decay in my inventory than in the barrel given the same amount of time. In 6 hours, I wouldn't find 40 decayed wheat out of 100 fresh wheat in my inventory.

actually you would the decay timer is per stack and so all 100 wheat decay in 4 hours, and if you add wheat to the same stack the timer changes based on how much the stack is (so basically the timer is full that WHILE stack of wheat not per wheat)

[Sylas420]

Originally posted by Bladebuddy:

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Still, the wheat would take much longer to decay in my inventory than in the barrel given the same amount of time. In 6 hours, I wouldn't find 40 decayed wheat out of 100 fresh wheat in my inventory.

actually you would the decay timer is per stack and so all 100 wheat decay in 4 hours, and if you add wheat to the same stack the timer changes based on how much the stack is (so basically the timer is full that WHILE stack of wheat not per wheat)

Ackshually, this is somewhat incorrect. Yes all 100 wheat would decay in 4 hours if they were all picked at the same time. However, the inventory timer is not per stack, it is per individual item. If the items stack, then the timer you see is based on the item that will decay first.

You can easily see this by looking at the timer for a stack, then removing only one from that stack at at time. The timer of the stack updates based on the most decayed item, so you'll see the timer increase. If the next item up has a vastly different decay rate, then you'll see it jump high. If you put the more decayed item back on the stack, then the timer displays for that item again. To that point, you will also notice the timer does *not* change if you put a fresh item onto a decayed stack. Not sure if maybe you played in one of the Betas and it was different back then, but this is definitely the case now.

[Sylas420]

Originally posted by jacktan9203:

Can you calculate
Can you explain how 40 wheat out of 100 wheat decays inside the
barrel given that its 4 hours per decay?

First - Please see my previous reply to Bladebuddy for clarification on how stacks work.

Okay - at a rate of 2:1, you would of course only get 50 beers from 100 Fresh wheat. It takes 20 minutes per beer - that's 1000 minutes or 16.67 hours. There's no way all 100 wheat can brew in 16+ hours when they last 4 hours outside a fridge. In 4 hours (240 minutes) you would only get 12 beers from that batch (24 wheat used, 76 spoiled).

The *only* way you could possibly get 30 beers from 100 wheat, is if you already had wheat in the barrel that was decayed quite a bit, then added more fresh wheat to equal 100, so the decay rate staggered. From this, you say you got 30, so that's 18 more beers than 12 -- 18 beers takes 360 minutes (6 hours). With the initial 4 hours to get 12 beers, that's now 10 hours total brew time to get 30 beers.

That is over twice the amount of hours that wheat lasts, which means the decay would had to have been staggered a 3rd time... so what you're saying isn't adding up. The most you would ever want to put in is 24. That would make 12 beers in exactly 240 minutes (4 hours). To be safe, I'd go with a little less tho, if you really want to avoid decay.

Hope this helps a bit.