not even one real PVP server?

[Kane]

Where are the real PVP servers, I mean the real ones. Why is there no real PVP in the game?

I activate PVP and have to wait until someone else also activates PVP? Please what? Why are these servers even marked as PVP, that's PVE.

I can only attack players under certain conditions, that has nothing to do with real PVP
I can't attack players' bases, why do you even need walls in the game, or base defenses?

Why do we have countless PVE servers and not a single, NOT a single real PVP server?

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by BREAKtheArtist:

I only play on a PVE server on this game. So you are telling me that the PVP servers have a "Passive Mode" à la GTAV? :dofkskull: It is no wonder the last time I checked there were 3x the amount of PVE servers as PVP.

It shows you what the community prefers.

[yym331]

Originally posted by Tachyon:

Originally posted by yym331:

It feels like the responses are not addressing the question properly. The issue is that although there are separate PvE and PvP servers, it is completely impossible to engage in PvP (including PK) on the PvP server.

We understand the question fully and completely. You simply don't understand the answers. I explained why in a post the OP himself has marked as answering his question. In short, PvP players don't REALLY want "fair" PvP, and they never have done. They SAY they do, but they don't. They'd much rather not attack players who are ready, prepped, loaded for bear, flagged for PvP and who are just itching for a fight. That's far too risky

Ganking or PK'ing someone who is occupied while building things or doing missions is much more their style. Offline raiding of someone's base is much more their style, too. Sadly for them, they can't do that because rational people will remove their PvP status before logging off. PvP players like to sound as if they're noble and fair-minded mano a mano types, but they'd actually much rather stab someone in the back without any risk to themselves. We've all seen this on every PvP server in every game made in at least the last decade. The threads complaining about "unfair PvP" systems are in every Steam PvP game forum, however you'll never find many, if any at all, praising it. You WILL find threads from PvP players complaining that nobody joins their server any more. I wonder why! 😄

I understand your trauma with open PvP.
You see, the issue isn't about "fair" PvP or anything like that. It might be more of a seasonal problem, but what we're talking about is the fact that on a PvP server, there's barely any PvP happening. The point is different.

Entering PvP mode is troublesome because the flag disappears within a few dozen seconds.

[Darkmaster]

Good PVP sucks! they should remove it from the game if you ask me!

[Optimus Prime Rib]

Originally posted by Kane:

Where are the real PVP servers, I mean the real ones. Why is there no real PVP in the game?

I activate PVP and have to wait until someone else also activates PVP? Please what? Why are these servers even marked as PVP, that's PVE.

I can only attack players under certain conditions, that has nothing to do with real PVP
I can't attack players' bases, why do you even need walls in the game, or base defenses?

Why do we have countless PVE servers and not a single, NOT a single real PVP server?

i would say PVP zones would be the answer.. Like high loot areas activate pvp once you enter and if you leave the zone you have a timer of like 30 seconds so people dont Edge camp

[yym331]

Originally posted by Optimus Prime Rib:

Originally posted by Kane:

Where are the real PVP servers, I mean the real ones. Why is there no real PVP in the game?

I activate PVP and have to wait until someone else also activates PVP? Please what? Why are these servers even marked as PVP, that's PVE.

I can only attack players under certain conditions, that has nothing to do with real PVP
I can't attack players' bases, why do you even need walls in the game, or base defenses?

Why do we have countless PVE servers and not a single, NOT a single real PVP server?

i would say PVP zones would be the answer.. Like high loot areas activate pvp once you enter and if you leave the zone you have a timer of like 30 seconds so people dont Edge camp

Well said! There's a peculiar individual above ranting about "fair" PvP, but I don't understand why PvE players, who seem to have PTSD from PvP, are even chiming in when we're discussing a PvP server. When you actually get on a PvP server, certain level players frequently initiate attacks. However, due to the flawed PvP flagging system, no one really understands it, and we're unable to engage in natural, real PvP.

To explain it in GTA Online terms, it's like being forced back into passive mode every few seconds lol.

[Tachyon]

Originally posted by yym331:

Originally posted by Optimus Prime Rib:

i would say PVP zones would be the answer.. Like high loot areas activate pvp once you enter and if you leave the zone you have a timer of like 30 seconds so people dont Edge camp

Well said! There's a peculiar individual above ranting about "fair" PvP, but I don't understand why PvE players, who seem to have PTSD from PvP, are even chiming in...

Lol, long-term Eve Online player here, with several thousand hours in PvP over the years. That game can cost real money lost if your ship is destroyed, and you're carrying cargo purchased with real money. It's the only game that ever got PvP right, and today's inferior PvP players would doubtless run screaming to mummy and daddy if they gave it a try. Over the last couple of decades I have played and enjoyed a lot of PvP games, going back as far as Everquest's Rallos Zek PvP server.

People don't WANT to do PvP on the Once Human PvP servers, that's their choice and they can decide not to for whatever reason suits them. This is fine because they can play however they like. It's the old "lead a horse to water" thing. Even PvP players don't want to flag for PvP, probably because they can't gank lowbies or raid bases, and because the servers wipe regularly. If they really love PvP as much as they say they do, they make the effort and find PvP. They could easily find people to engage in PvP by saying in Chat, "Hey guys, is anyone interested in meeting up at [place name], flagging up for PvP and engaging in some shooting up of each other?"... They're not, though, are they. What a lack of commitment, eh! 😄

[Mr. Fibble]

Opening a server up entirely to the pvp brigade inevitably results in an exodus and lots of whining from the pvpleets who can no longer engage in petty theft or vandalism and might actually have to engage another active player.

You either get a structured system that has restrictions but works or you end up with an empty wasteland noone wants to go near. Games are entertainment and escapism which is why the majority of people prefer to primarily engage in PVE and maybe dip into pvp if the mood takes them..

[RyeG]

bro we wanna pvp. if you dont want to pvp there is pve servers. PVP server should focus or atleast let people flag for more than 5 MFKN seconds...so stupid if they dont fix pvp this ♥♥♥♥ gonna die!

[Marchanta]

I think one of the solutions would be a redzone/darkzone area where you can find good materials, etc and full pvp, i understand there will be a lot of people camping but thats the challenge, but thats just my opinion, this game have a lot of potential.

[Lollipop33]

I mean if its a switch, seems like no one wants to pvp, go play cod or fortnite

[Veg]

Fallout 76 died because no real pvp. This game will die for that same reason. Rust, Ark, Conan Exiles. These games live and die by their PVP element. The care bares will come in, do the dungeons, fight the bosses then leave. And with no pvp or pvp community to keep the game alive? dead game.

[Hokkies]

Originally posted by Veg:

Fallout 76 died because no real pvp. This game will die for that same reason. Rust, Ark, Conan Exiles. These games live and die by their PVP element. The care bares will come in, do the dungeons, fight the bosses then leave. And with no pvp or pvp community to keep the game alive? dead game.

me and my friends already dropped it. we are barely meeting players, and even with pvp toggled on, nobody else has it toggled on that you meet. so there's no point in playing if you're in it for pvp

[Teslaburn]

Originally posted by Tachyon:

Originally posted by Kane:

Where are the real PVP servers, I mean the real ones. Why is there no real PVP in the game?

I activate PVP and have to wait until someone else also activates PVP? Please what? Why are these servers even marked as PVP, that's PVE.

I can only attack players under certain conditions, that has nothing to do with real PVP
I can't attack players' bases, why do you even need walls in the game, or base defenses?

Why do we have countless PVE servers and not a single, NOT a single real PVP server.

Because PvP just isn't that popular, despite all the little Combat Wombats saying it is. There's always endless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it "not being fair" because rubes who think they can survive solo get hammered into the ground by higher-level players. Little guilds (warbands or whatever) howl that the bigger guilds are crushing them and that guild sizes should be limited. Then there's the crowd that are outraged when they get raided offline and tearfully complain "that's not REAL PvP!"... The PvP player ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ never ends.

Honestly, I think this company should be applauded for avoiding the entire shambolic issue and the fallout it causes. If people aren't flagging themselves for PvP it's obvious they don't want "traditional" PvP. Oh, and the fortifications are needed when you have to defend your base while extracting Dust or something. It attracts mobs, apparently.

What an absolute baffoon that hasn't played a videogame in his entire life.
Pvp not that popular? In a shooter game? I'd like to share with you some interesting small name titles that show how much of an idiot this statement is.
Battlefield (There's about 10 games)
Call of duty (There's about 20 games)
Halo (There's about 8 games)
Battlebits (Newish)
A little known title very few people have ever played: Fortnite.
Another little known title very few people have ever played: Counter Strike
These playerbases only add up to about 3 billion players, which is 1/3 of the planet roughly. Granted some of them are probably the same people on multiple games.
So 1 in 3 people prefers pvp shooters.
I assume 1 in 3 people like to be outside.
1 in 3 people are old people.
So that appear to be almost 100% of the actual community that plays videogames appears to be interested in pvp shooting games to some degree.
I'm so glad we have you, to point out that nobody likes pvp games.
Thank god the shills and fake news have been erased from public forums in 2025.