Too Much RNG

[Fatum]

If I have any real issues with this game, not just bugs or not understanding how things work since there's a ton of that going on being...a rather odd, and new game.
Too much RNG...
Want to go for a specific build? Ok...go farm a boss 1000x you may get the mod you want to drop. It may have absolute crap perks to it too. Why would I want + melee damage on a mod thats for shrapnel damage? Same thing with weapons, but at least those you can adjust some of the perks if you have scrapped another weapon with it.

So...you go kill a boss, it has a 10%(?) chance to drop what you want. That drop has a _% chance of having what you want (I have no idea how many combos are possible) . Hell...i bet many players don't even realize some of the skill/perks that are in the game if they have not watched a guide or something. I know I had no idea. I tend to playthrough a game as much as I can before watching guides or anything on it so I can form my own impressions.

[Firecam]

F2P or P2W products always have multiple layers of RNG for "replayability".

[EvilHare]

There are so many other ways to get mods. I use Pro Silos and any PWs to hunt the mods I need. Same mods you can find with those bosses.

And besides, you will need those junk mods to level up your good mods.

And I do understand how many mods there are. Everyone does if they are in Phase 4.

And you really want to keep at least one or two of the same mods for different type of builds you want to try out. Afterall mods carry over along with your weapon BPs and accessories. So it is possible to expand your builds to more than one. It is the reason they have loadouts (gear screen press H).

[Fatum]

pro silos are not even available yet.... I have hundreds of armor/weapon mod parts already if I ever do get lucky enough. (also have my current bests maxed out, so scrapping those is a ton more parts)

[EvilHare]

Originally posted by Fatum:

pro silos are not even available yet.... I have hundreds of armor/weapon mod parts already if I ever do get lucky enough. (also have my current bests maxed out, so scrapping those is a ton more parts)

They are not available to your server ... yet. Each server has a timestamp. Based on that, each server will be in a different phase of Season 1.

[HunterSilver]

tl;dr it's to incentivize running higher difficulty content.

Higher difficulty content is more likely to drop what you want at the power levels that you want them at. Players doing lower level content will suffer through far worse RNG, but can still get some really good mods, even if they can never be as good technically.

Currently it's not possible to roll a perfect mod, but you can roll stronger ones if you're getting mods from Pro difficulty dungeons.

Higher difficulty dungeons guarantee legendary mod drops, and even higher difficulty dungeons will give more of them. Clearing a Pro Silo will reward you with 2~4 or 4~7 legendary mods depending on the silo.

For the 4 perks, there are limited ranges for what they can roll. Only two slots can roll non-specific damage perks for example. You can't roll Crit Damage and Weapon Damage and Status Damage and Elemental Damage on the same mod, at most you can get 2 of those, and one slot is almost guaranteed (if not guaranteed) to get 1. This is to say that there is variability but far less than it initially looks like.
I apologize if 'non-specific damage perk' is confusing, it's because 2 of the slots can roll things that damage specific enemy types such as damage to elite enemies and damage to great ones.

For the perks there are potentially 16 upgrades that you can have on them. Grey -> Green -> Blue -> Purple -> Yellow on 4 different perks. Mods from lower level sources will range from 0~4 total upgrades on their perks initially. Mods from pro dungeons will have 5+ upgrades on them. As mods can only be further upgraded 5 times after you get them, you ideally want mods with 11 perk upgrades on them to start so you can max out all of the perks.

So players who do pro dungeons will have a slight dps and/or survivability bump above players who avoid higher difficulty content.

[Fatum]

I have been farming all the hard mode content I have available just havn't gotten lucky. The difference between the right perks and not are insane...could potentially double my damage if I could only get good rolls.