PVP Rocket Spam

[Nicrome]

There needs to be a way to address rocket spam. It makes it way to easy to just destroy a base from a distance making defending seem pointless. It really ruins wars. Cause it just becomes rocket spam tell your base is gone. No matter how well constructed it is. I feel like it's going to become the only attack strat. With how absurdly op it is. There is no counter play at the current moment. Rockets need nerfed and attacking should take more effort then just spamming with rockets for a few minutes.

[Rincewind]

yes pvp is a joke atm

[TK (Shad)]

Originally posted by Nicrome:

There needs to be a way to address rocket spam. It makes it way to easy to just destroy a base from a distance making defending seem pointless. It really ruins wars. Cause it just becomes rocket spam tell your base is gone. No matter how well constructed it is. I feel like it's going to become the only attack strat. With how absurdly op it is. There is no counter play at the current moment. Rockets need nerfed and attacking should take more effort then just spamming with rockets for a few minutes.

.... Shoot rockets back? Rush their line? There is plenty to do... But yes, generally it needs more devleopment.

[Bigguss Dickuss]

Surprised there seems to be no type of EMP/ anti-projectile defenses. I haven't played PvP yet but there should totally be some kind of base force-field thing you can use.
I would also assume that simply being in a warband and among a big compound of bases might deter anyone from sitting next to a base rocket spamming it...

[Babbles]

There is a reason the PvP areas are called 'swamps' ...

[Baked Cans]

This is one of the reasons why servers wipe, it's to clear out any explosives reserves that warbands have stock piled and to cap them at a 6 week maximum stock pile.

I'm hoping they add some form of chaff grenade to counter rockets or other automated attacks myself, this gives counter play which is crucial to any type of large scale pvp.

[Nicrome]

Originally posted by TK:

Originally posted by Nicrome:

There needs to be a way to address rocket spam. It makes it way to easy to just destroy a base from a distance making defending seem pointless. It really ruins wars. Cause it just becomes rocket spam tell your base is gone. No matter how well constructed it is. I feel like it's going to become the only attack strat. With how absurdly op it is. There is no counter play at the current moment. Rockets need nerfed and attacking should take more effort then just spamming with rockets for a few minutes.

.... Shoot rockets back? Rush their line? There is plenty to do... But yes, generally it needs more devleopment.

We experienced it on a location where they spawn next to a mountain and it takes them less then a minute to get up there and takes us a few minutes and after the first few minutes about half our base was gone and we managed to clear the mountain and they just came at us from a new direction. There really wasn't much we can do. The rockets have no range limit and the problem is that they are shooting for a stationary base and only have to destroy an objective. While we have to prevent them from destroying that objective. Where rocket spam just reverses the roles really. They just choose a spot where they can see the base and fire away tell they finally take out the objective. While we have to run after them and when we get close enough they just swap to weapons and kill us. Not to mention they were using portable mg turrets that they got to place freely. Like saying there is plenty you can do. Is just assuming the enemy is bad and is just gonna let you win. If you screw up there one plan.

[Nicrome]

Originally posted by Bigguss Dickuss:

Surprised there seems to be no type of EMP/ anti-projectile defenses. I haven't played PvP yet but there should totally be some kind of base force-field thing you can use.
I would also assume that simply being in a warband and among a big compound of bases might deter anyone from sitting next to a base rocket spamming it...

There is a limit to what you can build in a war. You cap out at less structures then you can build for your actual base and you have a max of how many turrets/traps you can have. Which is 12. I got double that at my home base. When the war starts it's a 25 minute match of everyone who was in position at the time and all the stuff they brought with them. You lose nothing when you die except more durability on your equipment and you re spawn in 15 seconds at your respective re spawn. Another thing is that your base can be attacked before it even starts. Potentially causing your base to be damage before the fight and you can't build at all during the actual war. War bases are completely separate from your actual bases.

[Nicrome]

Originally posted by Baked Cans:

This is one of the reasons why servers wipe, it's to clear out any explosives reserves that warbands have stock piled and to cap them at a 6 week maximum stock pile.

I'm hoping they add some form of chaff grenade to counter rockets or other automated attacks myself, this gives counter play which is crucial to any type of large scale pvp.

Yeah I don't want them to completely remove rockets, but there needs to be some sort of couterplay or they need to be nerfed to where they are barely worth using.

[Kyutaru]

Idk, seems like if PVP is the concern, machine gun beats rocket launcher. So kill the rocket spammers.

[Baked Cans]

Originally posted by Nicrome:

Originally posted by Baked Cans:

This is one of the reasons why servers wipe, it's to clear out any explosives reserves that warbands have stock piled and to cap them at a 6 week maximum stock pile.

I'm hoping they add some form of chaff grenade to counter rockets or other automated attacks myself, this gives counter play which is crucial to any type of large scale pvp.

Yeah I don't want them to completely remove rockets, but there needs to be some sort of couterplay or they need to be nerfed to where they are barely worth using.

The game is balanced around the fact that biomass missiles, red plasma, and rockets are the big payloads, they need to be powerful because of how hard they are to make and how heavy they are to carry compared to everything else. All they need to do is implement some form of counter measure that is to it's equal as long as it's played well no different than the iron dome defense that we have IRL and it'll make for good gameplay.

[dao]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Idk, seems like if PVP is the concern, machine gun beats rocket launcher. So kill the rocket spammers.

Have you successfully done this, or are you theorycrafting?