Coherence Deviant broken

[snookthemighty]

The counter measures for the Coherence Deviant do NOT work! I've used pistols and crossbows both with bullseye, targeting only the little drone above it's head. I've used the anti cradle choice using the weapon listed to fight against it.

Nothing changes and there is no notable difference. One little deviant of that type is harder than any pro dungeon last season. It is completely broken the damage it does, the lack of damage you do and the ammo it takes.

It's so bad on my server that people will just nope out and go to another area when they are seen. I don't know if we are doing something wrong or it wasn't tested but it IS NOT fun at all.

Before you say be a Timmy Tryhard give it a shot and come back to me with how it went and your thoughts. I don't want to be salty, I just want to play and have fun and was super excited to tackle this content and new builds. Thanks and hope something helpful comes of this...

[Cy^BrAt]

i know exactly what you mean. There is literally nothing scarrier than a heavy unit with a coherence doll on its head. The target is tiny, my bowgun does F*** all and so does bounce. There HAS to be something wrong there or.... i dont know...? we've been duped?

[snookthemighty]

It sucks that this is a problem but I'm glad it isn't just me. I felt like something was wrong or I was messing up or didn't understand

[Auldwight, the Eternal]

i agree that the damage they do is silly but i figured out standing on a sligthly raised area like a car or small wall makes them unable to hit you with the homing attacks, and when i tried i had pretty good results with the purple bullseye pistol in terms of destroying the doll above them. maybe that'll work for you?

[snookthemighty]

I'll try the pistol again, I did before and couldn't tell a difference

[WantStuff]

Anyone had any better luck with this or found other options? I've just tried with the DE Wildfire on a Coherence Bruiser, but they move around way too much to be able to hit the icon thing successfully.
It does feel easier to nope it, switch to another world and come back on the 50/50 chance that it has switched to Phase

[Raynn von Valancius]

I haven't run into a major issue, IF I'm running the appropriate build for the enemy running the voodoo doll. From my understanding it currently goes like this (but not sure if each server is different).

Unstoppable or Power Surge defeats Void

Burn or Frost Vortex beats Balance.

The cradle also carriers the Anti-Balance/Anti-Void buffs for specific weapons. Choosing one of those may make things easier.

Either way, even if you have the appropriate build, I still think they're more trouble than they are worth. Especially based on what they actually drop. You get complete garbage from them....lol.

[WantStuff]

It is specifically the Coherence mobs that are a problem, or the Coherence cradle override doesn't work well. I'm on a Phase/Coherence server and don't have any problems at all with Phase, they are just a bit "tankier" but still go down fairly easily.
Coherence mobs seem harder than the Monolith bosses!

[Big Boom Boom]

Coherent isn't that hard, I just unleash Shadowhound to keep it in one place and shoot down the device/doll. First I mark it with Bingo then shred it with Last Valour. Shadowhound keep the aggro so they can stay still and makes it easy to hit the doll.

What I noticed is if you marked it with Bullseye you can hit the doll/device much harder. Doll/Device is NOT a weakspot so your crossbow will not mark it. Bingo has 100% chance to mark when you switch weapon.

[snookthemighty]

I was speaking of Phase and Coherence, I have no experience with the other types. Phase isn't too bad with Shrapnel although the teleporting and such is bothersome. The Coherence device after testing crossbow vs pistol the pistol worked much better. What is annoying for both is that in the time to reload or heal or what have you both have tendency to pop back up.

I took down a Rossetta Heavy with a Coherence device and also Edee in Blackwell and both had there devices recharge at least 3 times in the fight using a maxed out pistol.

[Big Boom Boom]

For Coherence you don't need to use Bullseye weapon to kill the mob. You only need to mark it, then use your best weapon to shoot down the small device. Then the mob is vulnerable and you can easily kill it within 5 seconds. Look, I fought the Balloon Elite (Edee) with Voodoo doll and that is the only Elite that you can't kill within 5 seconds due to the fact that he has phases. You can only damage him the first 3 times when he inflate one particular balloon, then only after 3 times he's vulnerable. On top of this is the Voodoo Doll that you need to break. Even that I can kill him in the time he regenerate the voodoo doll ONCE.

All other elites don't have such restrictions. Once the shield is down, they are dead meat. Use Shadowhound if you can't hit the device reliably due to how small it is. I brought over lvl 5/4 Shadownhound for this.