Server Wipes will Kill this Game.

[Ardven]

I don't care if you keep some stuff and lose some stuff, this game will not survive in the long run like this.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense otherwise No.

A lot of people seem to compare this game to other genres on purpose to mislead others but let's not kid ourselves this a Live Service MMO.

-Rust is a PVP only game not a Live Service MMO with Dungeons, Bosses, Events, RPG Mechanics or any PVE content, it's pure PVP and not much fun it's full of cheaters.
-ARK and Conan are Offline Co-op games with optional servers and Private Servers.
-Tarkov is a PVP Shooter why even bring it up?! another cheater haven game.
Path of Exile and Diablo 4 are APRGs this game is not.
For some reason people also mention Cycle Frontier?!
Which got Shut Down last year, yeah a dead game is not a good example to use.

Using any of these games in your argument makes no sense because i can randomly choose a game as well from any other genre to feed my argument but that would not make sense now does it?!
Oh, it's not a full wipe? no one cares even if it was just levels it would still be bad.

Devs need rethink this, they said they are open to feedback which means they themselves are still not sure about it yet, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.
You have a gem of a game in your hands, don't throw it away.

I love this game, i spent money on it because i know the devs deserve it,
and i'm willing to spend another 100 dollars but not with server wipes.


-Please keep it Civil, be kind, this is a Feedback Thread, be respectful.

EDIT: after playing the game for 2 seasons and spending over 200 dollars i completely gave up on the game not because of resets alone but because of another very big issue this game has which is SERVER STRUCTURE, one of the worst i have seen in an online game.

[MelAU]

Originally posted by Eragor:

Originally posted by MelAU:

Well server wipe didn't kill Rust yet.

Rust is a PVP game and it has Private Servers.
Once Human is a MMO with Dungeons, Bosses, Events, Long Time Gated Progression and a full Live Service game.

And rust is none of those.
the rest of the Survival games like ARK, CONAN and so on do not reset your progress either they also have private servers and most of them can be played offline so please do your research or play more games to comment.

The Rust got PVE on dedicated servers, and wipes are very popular there. I was hosting Rust 10x PVE server for 2 years. People love wipes.

[TwistedXenos]

server wipes is good, will keep things fresh.

[MelAU]

Having no server wipes is so bad for performance, then you going to cry about bad fps and lag.

[Puwf]

Server wipes for pvp are understandable as you said but make no sense on PvE servers.

Another thing that will kill this game is the fact that when someone logs into a server they are taking up the spot until the end of the season. Now what about the players that quit full servers and what not? Why are those players still allowed to keep their spot? There are people who want to join friends but can't due to the fact that servers will stay perma full until ends of seasons and I will not have my friends move to another server and lose all their progress for just me. It's actually so frustrating. Don't advertise the game as an open world and then limit the amount of characters that can be made on each server. I'd rather wait an hour queue time than be locked out of playing with friends.

[Mordliss]

I actually was having a blast, and was getting my wife and daughters to download the game this week so we could game out over a long weekend we had planned. After hearing of this 6 week wipe, not a single one of us want to even invest time in this game.

First off, 6 weeks is incredibly short for anyone with real life commitments to contend with. Not to mention your character actually resets to level 1 and you lose all your material you earned and farmed for over those weeks. This is an awful design decision and one that just lost 4 people playing.

Devs should re think this strategy, game will be dead when people figure this out as a surprise in a few weeks. PVE games with wipes? Just let us have our own server and play how we want.

[MelAU]

Well Dedicated servers hosting will solve you problems.

[Viking]

Originally posted by Eragor:

I don't care if you keep blueprints and cosmetics, this game will not survive the second season.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Devs need to change, they said they are open to feed back which means they themselves are still not sure about it, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense but this game will not compete with rust or any other survival wipe game if they're planning that.

Dude have you ever played one perpetual world save for any survival game ever? Even Ark on vanilla settings can take a year do to stupid breeding timers which we always set to 0.000000000001 removing them entirely, then poof suddenly you can crush every single map across the entire story in 2-3 weeks and are left bored with nothing at all to do. 7DTD you can max everything out on vanilla settings in under 20 hours of play time and be left with nothing to do. Rust, Valheim, Conan Exiles... The list goes on and on. For a PVE game to retain players it needs periodic wipes otherwise you reach a point where you are max level, have more gear and resources than you will ever use and be bored with no objective.

[MelAU]

Originally posted by Viking:

Originally posted by Eragor:

I don't care if you keep blueprints and cosmetics, this game will not survive the second season.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Devs need to change, they said they are open to feed back which means they themselves are still not sure about it, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense but this game will not compete with rust or any other survival wipe game if they're planning that.

Dude have you ever played one perpetual world save for any survival game ever? Even Ark on vanilla settings can take a year do to stupid breeding timers which we always set to 0.000000000001 removing them entirely, then poof suddenly you can crush every single map across the entire story in 2-3 weeks and are left bored with nothing at all to do. 7DTD you can max everything out on vanilla settings in under 20 hours of play time and be left with nothing to do. Rust, Valheim, Conan Exiles... The list goes on and on. For a PVE game to retain players it needs periodic wipes otherwise you reach a point where you are max level, have more gear and resources than you will ever use and be bored with no objective.

True 100%, the problem is some people never played survival games. It is impossible to run no wipe server without consequences.

[Gregoyle]

I'm kind of glad its wiping after 6 weeks, if done proper it should keep things fresh enough to keep wanting to play
6 weeks also seems like a pretty good spot, not too long, not too short
The only way the wipes themselves kill the game is if we land on the same map with the same quests and the same content in which case it's tough to say what happens. I don't personally enjoy restarting the same game over and over unless it's got good replay-ability which unfortunately in the 20 hours this weekend I've put in to this game there's nothing at the early game so far that makes me want to do it again other than some of the bosses/mini bosses
Farming is a grind I can accept because I can break it off with exploration but if I need to visit and re-clear the same towns it wont be as fun the nth time and without that sense of fresh exploration it'll get boring

tl;dr: I hope these wipes aren't a replacement for content otherwise it wont last long

[Ardven]

Originally posted by Mordliss:

I actually was having a blast, and was getting my wife and daughters to download the game this week so we could game out over a long weekend we had planned. After hearing of this 6 week wipe, not a single one of us want to even invest time in this game.

First off, 6 weeks is incredibly short for anyone with real life commitments to contend with. Not to mention your character actually resets to level 1 and you lose all your material you earned and farmed for over those weeks. This is an awful design decision and one that just lost 4 people playing.

Devs should re think this strategy, game will be dead when people figure this out as a surprise in a few weeks. PVE games with wipes? Just let us have our own server and play how we want.

Exactly, there is no reason to Wipe PVE Servers!

[Ardven]

Originally posted by Viking:

Originally posted by Eragor:

I don't care if you keep blueprints and cosmetics, this game will not survive the second season.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Devs need to change, they said they are open to feed back which means they themselves are still not sure about it, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense but this game will not compete with rust or any other survival wipe game if they're planning that.

Dude have you ever played one perpetual world save for any survival game ever? Even Ark on vanilla settings can take a year do to stupid breeding timers which we always set to 0.000000000001 removing them entirely, then poof suddenly you can crush every single map across the entire story in 2-3 weeks and are left bored with nothing at all to do. 7DTD you can max everything out on vanilla settings in under 20 hours of play time and be left with nothing to do. Rust, Valheim, Conan Exiles... The list goes on and on. For a PVE game to retain players it needs periodic wipes otherwise you reach a point where you are max level, have more gear and resources than you will ever use and be bored with no objective.

Neither of these games wipe your progress besides Rust due to PVP!
I played all of them, i have had my own private servers and played on official.
You adjusting the setting and fast forwarding the game for yourself has nothing to do with this!

Also neither of these games are Live Service games, they can all be played offline or co-op, while Once Human is Live Service MMO.

[Ardven]

Originally posted by Gregoyle:

I'm kind of glad its wiping after 6 weeks, if done proper it should keep things fresh enough to keep wanting to play
6 weeks also seems like a pretty good spot, not too long, not too short
The only way the wipes themselves kill the game is if we land on the same map with the same quests and the same content in which case it's tough to say what happens. I don't personally enjoy restarting the same game over and over unless it's got good replay-ability which unfortunately in the 20 hours this weekend I've put in to this game there's nothing at the early game so far that makes me want to do it again other than some of the bosses/mini bosses
Farming is a grind I can accept because I can break it off with exploration but if I need to visit and re-clear the same towns it wont be as fun the nth time and without that sense of fresh exploration it'll get boring

tl;dr: I hope these wipes aren't a replacement for content otherwise it wont last long

What's so fresh about doing the same thing you have done every season?
Also wipes will probably replacement for endgame content with some events and new quests which is horrible for a Live Service game.

[Asmosis]

People need to chill out a bit, until you've actually gone through and experienced a season refresh you dont really know how impactful the lost things will be.

[MelAU]

Originally posted by Eragor:

Originally posted by Viking:

Dude have you ever played one perpetual world save for any survival game ever? Even Ark on vanilla settings can take a year do to stupid breeding timers which we always set to 0.000000000001 removing them entirely, then poof suddenly you can crush every single map across the entire story in 2-3 weeks and are left bored with nothing at all to do. 7DTD you can max everything out on vanilla settings in under 20 hours of play time and be left with nothing to do. Rust, Valheim, Conan Exiles... The list goes on and on. For a PVE game to retain players it needs periodic wipes otherwise you reach a point where you are max level, have more gear and resources than you will ever use and be bored with no objective.

Neither of these games wipe your progress besides Rust due to PVP!
I played all of them, i have had my own private servers and played on official.
You adjusting the setting and fast forwarding the game for yourself has nothing to do with this!

Also neither of these games are Live Service games, they can all be played offline or co-op, while Once Human is Live Service MMO.

If you had hosted Rust server you should know what is consequences with no wipe server. Or did you hosted Rust on Quantum Server. LMAO

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

Originally posted by Asmosis:

People need to chill out a bit, until you've actually gone through and experienced a season refresh you dont really know how impactful the lost things will be.

ikr most of them haven't read what the devs posted clearly