Server Wipes will Kill this Game.

[Ardven]

I don't care if you keep some stuff and lose some stuff, this game will not survive in the long run like this.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense otherwise No.

A lot of people seem to compare this game to other genres on purpose to mislead others but let's not kid ourselves this a Live Service MMO.

-Rust is a PVP only game not a Live Service MMO with Dungeons, Bosses, Events, RPG Mechanics or any PVE content, it's pure PVP and not much fun it's full of cheaters.
-ARK and Conan are Offline Co-op games with optional servers and Private Servers.
-Tarkov is a PVP Shooter why even bring it up?! another cheater haven game.
Path of Exile and Diablo 4 are APRGs this game is not.
For some reason people also mention Cycle Frontier?!
Which got Shut Down last year, yeah a dead game is not a good example to use.

Using any of these games in your argument makes no sense because i can randomly choose a game as well from any other genre to feed my argument but that would not make sense now does it?!
Oh, it's not a full wipe? no one cares even if it was just levels it would still be bad.

Devs need rethink this, they said they are open to feedback which means they themselves are still not sure about it yet, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.
You have a gem of a game in your hands, don't throw it away.

I love this game, i spent money on it because i know the devs deserve it,
and i'm willing to spend another 100 dollars but not with server wipes.


-Please keep it Civil, be kind, this is a Feedback Thread, be respectful.

EDIT: after playing the game for 2 seasons and spending over 200 dollars i completely gave up on the game not because of resets alone but because of another very big issue this game has which is SERVER STRUCTURE, one of the worst i have seen in an online game.

[RatBoggles]

by the time u guys finally finish bantering about this dumb crap the games going to be dead for some other reason lol

[Adam__86]

-Tr¡Ρ- eredeti hozzászólása:

Adam__86 eredeti hozzászólása:

So what successful live service game meets your criteria for comparing charts?

I'd say the most obvious example would be ARK: Survival Evolved, which has almost identical stats to this day

So your criteria for proof of normal live service game charts is a mediocre game that is already moving onto a sequel?

I don't know who told you that its normal for live service games charts to be on a decline as opposed to increase but they're crazy. Successful live service games gain players after 6 months not lose 70%

[Virgil Cain]

Stopped playing...resets were the WORST

[RobinBlack]

If all these people have supposedly quit the game, why do they keep making encore appearances on the forums? Begone thots!

[johnno23]

Zepp eredeti hozzászólása:

If all these people have supposedly quit the game, why do they keep making encore appearances on the forums? Begone thots!

Because many same as myself pop in here to stay up to date. I enjoyed the first season most of all but season 3 half way simply stopped as it was too much like work and not like fun.
I was also annoyed that the dev's continued to ignore the graphical glitching when near rivers or lake areas etc but had plenty of time to keep releasing new cosmetics that i was forever clicking go away everytime I logged in.
Those of us that liked the premise of the game but not the continual rinse and repeat thru wipes will very likely post here.
We get notifications via steam which i do log into every day as I have a huge game library to keep me entertained but Once Human was/is at its base quite exceptional and well worth paying attention to.

[RobinBlack]

johnno23 eredeti hozzászólása:

Zepp eredeti hozzászólása:

If all these people have supposedly quit the game, why do they keep making encore appearances on the forums? Begone thots!

Because many same as myself pop in here to stay up to date. I enjoyed the first season most of all but season 3 half way simply stopped as it was too much like work and not like fun.
I was also annoyed that the dev's continued to ignore the graphical glitching when near rivers or lake areas etc but had plenty of time to keep releasing new cosmetics that i was forever clicking go away everytime I logged in.
Those of us that liked the premise of the game but not the continual rinse and repeat thru wipes will very likely post here.
We get notifications via steam which i do log into every day as I have a huge game library to keep me entertained but Once Human was/is at its base quite exceptional and well worth paying attention to.

It’s always interesting when folks who no longer play the game feel the need to campaign for changes as though they’re speaking for the entire player base. I get the frustration with certain aspects of Once Human, especially the graphical glitches, but let’s be real: the rinse and repeat gameplay through wipes is kind of the point. It’s part of the challenge, and for many of us, it’s what keeps things rewarding.

Also, devs prioritizing cosmetics isn’t new in gaming; it funds the game’s development. Complaining about that while admitting you’re not actively playing anymore feels a bit like yelling at a restaurant for updating the decor after you’ve stopped eating there. Those of us grinding through every wipe, adapting, and thriving are the ones shaping the meta and providing feedback based on the current gameplay, not nostalgia from earlier seasons.

By all means, keep an eye on updates, maybe the game will hook you again, but it’s worth acknowledging that active players likely have a better pulse on what Once Human needs right now.

[PardonParz]

AGREED! Heres the real problem.. All your stuff is there, its right there but they don't give us enough points or whatever to bring it over to the next server. They can give us weekly points to bring more stuff over if needed. Simple stuff, simple simple stuff can fix the quality of life but they don't do them. They speak a totally different language, they like acting not human & thinking outside the box. But to save this game rightnow, they gotta start thinking simpler. period

[PardonParz]

Don't even get me started with how silly some of the Silo's are, The red-light green light one was cool & squid game like but than they got really weird. Un-Enjoyable, PVP servers was a mess with no anti-cheat so its ran by cheaters. On and On, dev decisions killed Once Human. Greed, server cut backs, maybe the engine needed to be updated. who knows.

[VAMPIRE]

ppl who cry about wipes must not actually play, you keep everything except the base, but you can save ur base as a blueprint and easily rebuild it next wipe.

Say there were no wipes, what are you going to do after a while n complete the entire season just sit in ur house?

[Serangel]

uebie420 eredeti hozzászólása:

Serangel eredeti hozzászólása:

At least i have logic instead of mindless mouth diarrhea.

Quite the opposite of logic actually your arguing with feelings when you can look at steam db charts and see it has lost 70% of its player base no get outa here with your mindless mouth diarrhea

Prove those people left because of sever wipes. If you cant, youre just throwing up mouth diarrhea.

[Not_Tola]

VAMPIRE eredeti hozzászólása:

ppl who cry about wipes must not actually play, you keep everything except the base, but you can save ur base as a blueprint and easily rebuild it next wipe.

Say there were no wipes, what are you going to do after a while n complete the entire season just sit in ur house?

Ask yourself, do you have to farm for materials again? quests? load up items for the mission? doing the same sh!t over and over again? 20k transfer points, what're you gonna do? still picking up drill and chainsaw to farm right? You bringing up house blueprint is pointless since you have to farm for materials all over again in order to build LMAO. Don't ignore the fact that most players are quitting due to the season resets.

[Serangel]

RingLeader eredeti hozzászólása:

-Tr¡Ρ- eredeti hozzászólása:

I'd say the most obvious example would be ARK: Survival Evolved, which has almost identical stats to this day

Ark was so garbage and such a failure that they didn’t even attempt to fix it, they just made a whole new game that was actually the same exact game with some prettier colors and textures, and decided they wanted to charge double the price for half the work instead of giving to us for free like they initially were. Wild card can go bankrupt. And then go ♥♥♥♥ themselves 😂

Calling a game that stayed in steams top 10 for over 7 years a failure is peak delusion.

[Serangel]

Not_Tola eredeti hozzászólása:

VAMPIRE eredeti hozzászólása:

ppl who cry about wipes must not actually play, you keep everything except the base, but you can save ur base as a blueprint and easily rebuild it next wipe.

Say there were no wipes, what are you going to do after a while n complete the entire season just sit in ur house?

Ask yourself, do you have to farm for materials again? quests? load up items for the mission? doing the same sh!t over and over again? 20k transfer points, what're you gonna do? still picking up drill and chainsaw to farm right? You bringing up house blueprint is pointless since you have to farm for materials all over again in order to build LMAO. Don't ignore the fact that most players are quitting due to the season resets.

Prove people are quitting because of resets.

[Not_Tola]

Serangel eredeti hozzászólása:

Not_Tola eredeti hozzászólása:

Ask yourself, do you have to farm for materials again? quests? load up items for the mission? doing the same sh!t over and over again? 20k transfer points, what're you gonna do? still picking up drill and chainsaw to farm right? You bringing up house blueprint is pointless since you have to farm for materials all over again in order to build LMAO. Don't ignore the fact that most players are quitting due to the season resets.

Prove people are quitting because of resets.

Since you asked, Try to learn how graph works and use your eyes to see if you notice any difference in term of maintaining or decreasing in playerbase with 1 to 3 months of the graph for a long term. No offense people like you will d!ckride the game no matter what.

If you see this response no need to reply back to me, cut it off and move on with your day.

[Baked Cans]

Not_Tola eredeti hozzászólása:

Serangel eredeti hozzászólása:

Prove people are quitting because of resets.

Since you asked, Try to learn how graph works and use your eyes to see if you notice any difference in term of maintaining or decreasing in playerbase with 1 to 3 months of the graph for a long term. No offense people like you will d!ckride the game no matter what.

If you see this response no need to reply back to me, cut it off and move on with your day.

Gonna play devil's advocate.

Acute proof would require survey data results that can be fed into a model, then they can plot the points from there.

If what you say is true, we could argue that concurrent counts could revive back to 150k at least once permanent server options are released next month via Custom Server 1.0.

However when it comes to overall steam DB behavior, very few games have been able to sustain a large amount of concurrency. Those few games are either Terraria (which doesn't wipe due to the nature of the game) and RUST (which wipes every week due to the nature of the game). We do have Palworld now but I last saw it last month at less than 15k but also revived back to 90k+ due to the nature of current industry happenings.

Therefore I propose a comparative chart.

Rust
Once Human
Terraria
Palworld

Rust and Once Human wipe (Once Human half wipes)

then

Terraria and Palworld which do not.

I believe that is fair if we were comparing survival games that wipe vs those that do not for the most played in that category.

Basically I'm asking to take the average concurrency of craft survival games that wipe and compare it to those that don't.

"b bb ut that there's more to it than that like content etc"
and now you've understood the point that I made.