Server Wipes will Kill this Game.

[Ardven]

I don't care if you keep some stuff and lose some stuff, this game will not survive in the long run like this.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense otherwise No.

A lot of people seem to compare this game to other genres on purpose to mislead others but let's not kid ourselves this a Live Service MMO.

-Rust is a PVP only game not a Live Service MMO with Dungeons, Bosses, Events, RPG Mechanics or any PVE content, it's pure PVP and not much fun it's full of cheaters.
-ARK and Conan are Offline Co-op games with optional servers and Private Servers.
-Tarkov is a PVP Shooter why even bring it up?! another cheater haven game.
Path of Exile and Diablo 4 are APRGs this game is not.
For some reason people also mention Cycle Frontier?!
Which got Shut Down last year, yeah a dead game is not a good example to use.

Using any of these games in your argument makes no sense because i can randomly choose a game as well from any other genre to feed my argument but that would not make sense now does it?!
Oh, it's not a full wipe? no one cares even if it was just levels it would still be bad.

Devs need rethink this, they said they are open to feedback which means they themselves are still not sure about it yet, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.
You have a gem of a game in your hands, don't throw it away.

I love this game, i spent money on it because i know the devs deserve it,
and i'm willing to spend another 100 dollars but not with server wipes.


-Please keep it Civil, be kind, this is a Feedback Thread, be respectful.

EDIT: after playing the game for 2 seasons and spending over 200 dollars i completely gave up on the game not because of resets alone but because of another very big issue this game has which is SERVER STRUCTURE, one of the worst i have seen in an online game.

[chenko]

I like the game and the idea but i find it very boring after the second week, theres nothing else to do other than laggy prime wars, collect deviants as if this where pokemon, we expected more from the game tbh and now it's like the devs don't know what to do with the game they've created.

[TAI]

Nguyên văn bởi Big Boom Boom:

Nguyên văn bởi Eragor:

Every current MMORPG has more content than OH.
WoW and FF14 add more content in an Expansion than OH currently has.

WoW and FF14 has more budget tha OH has. Just one expansion of FF14 has more budget than OH total development cycle. Even then you only need a few weeks to effectively clean the current patch content, and the next content is usually 3 months away.

Once Human IS BACKED BY NETEASE. NetEase is NOT a small company at all. It is A GIANT company in China, right next to TenCent. They got their finger in every source of entertainment in China and global. They have the budget. Don't BS me. They can't keep with the BS of "small indie company" when they have effen NetEase as their backer.
NetEase has more funds than FF14 and WoW could ever. So ya.. Load of BULL. No excuses.

[Ardven]

Nguyên văn bởi Big Boom Boom:

Nguyên văn bởi Eragor:

Every current MMORPG has more content than OH.
WoW and FF14 add more content in an Expansion than OH currently has.

WoW and FF14 has more budget tha OH has. Just one expansion of FF14 has more budget than OH total development cycle. Even then you only need a few weeks to effectively clean the current patch content, and the next content is usually 3 months away.

Netease is Multi-Billion Dollar Company, this is not made by an indie studio.

[Ardven]

Nguyên văn bởi chenko:

I like the game and the idea but i find it very boring after the second week, theres nothing else to do other than laggy prime wars, collect deviants as if this where pokemon, we expected more from the game tbh and now it's like the devs don't know what to do with the game they've created.

Pretty much.

[Gondola]

Nguyên văn bởi A cute emoji:

Either you awarded your own post or you have a VERY FAST enthusiast that loved your idea and reads at light-speed.

This aged pretty badly.

[Jetty89]

I tried to play after a wipe but ultimately couldn't get into it, dont want to spend time farming just to get my base back to how it was, feels pointless, I hope they change the model in the future because its a really fun game.

[Big Boom Boom]

Nguyên văn bởi TAI:

Nguyên văn bởi Big Boom Boom:

WoW and FF14 has more budget tha OH has. Just one expansion of FF14 has more budget than OH total development cycle. Even then you only need a few weeks to effectively clean the current patch content, and the next content is usually 3 months away.

Once Human IS BACKED BY NETEASE. NetEase is NOT a small company at all. It is A GIANT company in China, right next to TenCent. They got their finger in every source of entertainment in China and global. They have the budget. Don't BS me. They can't keep with the BS of "small indie company" when they have effen NetEase as their backer.
NetEase has more funds than FF14 and WoW could ever. So ya.. Load of BULL. No excuses.

NetEase has dozens of Studio and Starry is just the smaller one in there. NetEase also got hundreds of titles in development, they are blowing all their money on Once Human.

Nguyên văn bởi Eragor:

Netease is Multi-Billion Dollar Company, this is not made by an indie studio.

You clearly have no idea how Corporation works, this isn't even high on NetEase list. They have dozens of Studios around the world. Once Human didn't have a lot of marketing and the fact that at launch servers were severely limited meaning NetEase didn't really care about the title in the first place, and the budget given was limited. Only when it exploded in popularity they started pouring money in.

In stark contrast FFXIV is the biggest cash cow Square Enix has ever had, it's basically make money so SE can blow it on failed titles like Forspoken.

[Rabid Squirrel]

Character wipes for PVP I can understand the concept behind, evening the balance between casual and hardcore players. Character wipes for PVE have no reasoning, one player's progress doesn't effect yours in any way. If someone wants to "challenge themselves" with seasonal character wipes they can delete their character and start over every 6 weeks.

As it stands I'm just here to build a base for a week because I like base building, not gonna do any leveling because what's the point? Maybe the wipe won't hurt as bad when it's only wiping my level 10 character...

[Husker_85]

For people confused about what to do in the new season:

1. Gather wood, stone, and glass
   
   
2. move your starter platform to the corner of your territory
   
   
3. Open your blueprints, select the House Blueprint from last season, select wood as the construction material, and paste it as a House Blueprint. It will create a wooden facsimile of your old base, ready to be refilled with benches and loot.

In fact, all of your old blueprints are intact, so go ahead and craft yourself a tier 1 version of all your legendary armor and weapons from last season. Also don't forget to bring your best deviations over from the previous season. Or do forget; your transfer points don't have an expiration date so you can save them and use them on an as-needed basis.

[Ardven]

Nguyên văn bởi Big Boom Boom:

Nguyên văn bởi TAI:

Once Human IS BACKED BY NETEASE. NetEase is NOT a small company at all. It is A GIANT company in China, right next to TenCent. They got their finger in every source of entertainment in China and global. They have the budget. Don't BS me. They can't keep with the BS of "small indie company" when they have effen NetEase as their backer.
NetEase has more funds than FF14 and WoW could ever. So ya.. Load of BULL. No excuses.

NetEase has dozens of Studio and Starry is just the smaller one in there. NetEase also got hundreds of titles in development, they are blowing all their money on Once Human.

Nguyên văn bởi Eragor:

Netease is Multi-Billion Dollar Company, this is not made by an indie studio.

You clearly have no idea how Corporation works, this isn't even high on NetEase list. They have dozens of Studios around the world. Once Human didn't have a lot of marketing and the fact that at launch servers were severely limited meaning NetEase didn't really care about the title in the first place, and the budget given was limited. Only when it exploded in popularity they started pouring money in.

In stark contrast FFXIV is the biggest cash cow Square Enix has ever had, it's basically make money so SE can blow it on failed titles like Forspoken.

It's like Saying FF14 is not made by SE because it's developed by Creative Studio/Unit 3, you do realise this is how all Big companies work?!
They create multiple studios working on different projects.

[Mistuh Pudding]

I just wish they were more prepared for PvE content releases. Purely through hearsay on my end someone made mention that the devs want the game to be PvP focused - and if that is true, that will also hinder future gameplay consistency. I enjoy PvP as well, but not in games where I'm already fighting against the environment on a consistent basis. I enjoyed my server working collectively together toward every major goal, and as far as time sinks go I don't mind the materials I gather basically going away. It just means I can use everything in my chests without fear of "having to gather more" when things reset. I just don't want to be stuck getting blasted in the face by another player when I'm trying to fight an elite while looking for plastics, ya know? I've got my house blueprint, my gear blueprints, cosmetics, mods, etc. I can't make any of it very easily if I'm getting hamblasted. I do understand people enjoying stockpiling as with any other survival-style game but it's somewhat of a relief to me that I don't need to do that. Plus I crafted a chainsaw and drill (not a solar one) to grab out of eternaland when the next servers pop.

It's nice that it takes a different kind of preparation, but -IF- what I heard was accurate - That's gonna suck not having PvE content to play for a month or potentially more.

[Big Boom Boom]

Nguyên văn bởi Eragor:

Nguyên văn bởi Big Boom Boom:

NetEase has dozens of Studio and Starry is just the smaller one in there. NetEase also got hundreds of titles in development, they are blowing all their money on Once Human.



You clearly have no idea how Corporation works, this isn't even high on NetEase list. They have dozens of Studios around the world. Once Human didn't have a lot of marketing and the fact that at launch servers were severely limited meaning NetEase didn't really care about the title in the first place, and the budget given was limited. Only when it exploded in popularity they started pouring money in.

In stark contrast FFXIV is the biggest cash cow Square Enix has ever had, it's basically make money so SE can blow it on failed titles like Forspoken.

It's like Saying FF14 is not made by SE because it's developed by Creative Studio/Unit 3, you do realise this is how all Big companies work?!
They create multiple studios working on different projects.

Yes, and One Human is a small project within a big big corporate. FFXIV is however, very big and crucial to Square Enix given how many titles they bombed.

You clearly have zero ideas how big company work. Final Fantasy is a make or break franchise to Square Enix survival, along with Dragon Quest. Once Human? Something the Executive hears about for a grand five minutes in a two hours meeting and that's being generous. LMAO if you think NetEase poured a lot of money into it. They didn't.

[Sihmunath]

In POE there are no wipes, just if you wanna play new season, you just making new character. Same is in every game if you wanna play from begining you just creating new character. Here we are forsed to play from begining no matter what with same character. And we are forsed to do so only because there is no engame and there is boredom when you have what you want and done all quests. There is no really good reason for grinding this whole gold gear -even on hard server where I'm playing right now. As a single player game for first season this game is good. As an MMO it's not, it's repetitive, grindy and boring on second run even on hard server and has no good endgame content, doing only every boss again only in hard mode is just boring.

[LostME]

Nguyên văn bởi Rabid Squirrel:

Character wipes for PVP I can understand the concept behind, evening the balance between casual and hardcore players. Character wipes for PVE have no reasoning, one player's progress doesn't effect yours in any way. If someone wants to "challenge themselves" with seasonal character wipes they can delete their character and start over every 6 weeks.

As it stands I'm just here to build a base for a week because I like base building, not gonna do any leveling because what's the point? Maybe the wipe won't hurt as bad when it's only wiping my level 10 character...

It seems you don't understand that this is not a complete wipe. You still have blueprints and mods, as well as starchrome. So you just craft your gear and don't lose character strength, but you get the opportunity to improve blueprints or change builds because you can get new starchrome.

For whiners about MMOs, in WoW, every expansion required get new levels and farming new equipment. But here let's whine that it's hard to farm a bit of ore and wood using a chainsaw and a drill.

[Sihmunath]

Nguyên văn bởi LostME:

Nguyên văn bởi Rabid Squirrel:

Character wipes for PVP I can understand the concept behind, evening the balance between casual and hardcore players. Character wipes for PVE have no reasoning, one player's progress doesn't effect yours in any way. If someone wants to "challenge themselves" with seasonal character wipes they can delete their character and start over every 6 weeks.

As it stands I'm just here to build a base for a week because I like base building, not gonna do any leveling because what's the point? Maybe the wipe won't hurt as bad when it's only wiping my level 10 character...

It seems you don't understand that this is not a complete wipe. You still have blueprints and mods, as well as starchrome. So you just craft your gear and don't lose character strength, but you get the opportunity to improve blueprints or change builds because you can get new starchrome.

For whiners about MMOs, in WoW, every expansion required get new levels and farming new equipment. But here let's whine that it's hard to farm a bit of ore and wood using a chainsaw and a drill.

No, you loosing calibration of gear and weapons which is more grindy than just making new gear from blueprint. And there is even no good reason to do this over and over again. In every MMO same like in WoW there is good engame and constant new content. And when I wanna play from begining I just make new character. Forsing people to play from begining with same character for no good reason because nothing really changing is just lame.