Server Wipes will Kill this Game.

[Ardven]

I don't care if you keep some stuff and lose some stuff, this game will not survive in the long run like this.
Most people who play it don't even know this game has wipes.

Progress Wipe does not make sense on PVE Servers, on PVP servers i can see it make sense otherwise No.

A lot of people seem to compare this game to other genres on purpose to mislead others but let's not kid ourselves this a Live Service MMO.

-Rust is a PVP only game not a Live Service MMO with Dungeons, Bosses, Events, RPG Mechanics or any PVE content, it's pure PVP and not much fun it's full of cheaters.
-ARK and Conan are Offline Co-op games with optional servers and Private Servers.
-Tarkov is a PVP Shooter why even bring it up?! another cheater haven game.
Path of Exile and Diablo 4 are APRGs this game is not.
For some reason people also mention Cycle Frontier?!
Which got Shut Down last year, yeah a dead game is not a good example to use.

Using any of these games in your argument makes no sense because i can randomly choose a game as well from any other genre to feed my argument but that would not make sense now does it?!
Oh, it's not a full wipe? no one cares even if it was just levels it would still be bad.

Devs need rethink this, they said they are open to feedback which means they themselves are still not sure about it yet, so please make some noise, don't let this game die.
You have a gem of a game in your hands, don't throw it away.

I love this game, i spent money on it because i know the devs deserve it,
and i'm willing to spend another 100 dollars but not with server wipes.


-Please keep it Civil, be kind, this is a Feedback Thread, be respectful.

EDIT: after playing the game for 2 seasons and spending over 200 dollars i completely gave up on the game not because of resets alone but because of another very big issue this game has which is SERVER STRUCTURE, one of the worst i have seen in an online game.

[psnjungle]

I think its a great idea, i personally never played anything that did something so drastic before. Im curious to see how i'll adapt to this. I love the fact that i keep my blueprints.

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Either you awarded your own post or you have a VERY FAST enthusiast that loved your idea and reads at light-speed.

[Jaynoble55]

Wipe's in a MMO? What benefit is it other than a blatant predatory monetization. I get it for things like FPS and Diablo's with little content so they just make you run it again and charge for it. Seasons are the new blight on gamers. But you still find people simping for it .

[Exobine]

I'm surprised there isn't more attention paid to this, there are a few posts that are picking up traction, but it seems most of it is overshadowed by people screeching about the Privacy Policy more than anything.

I played the latest beta they had and sadly I was not aware of it being F2P or the nasty seasonal wipes, which the latter is why I am not playing, my choice.

I think most people playing right now see the season page and assume it works like other games, they're in for a treat when 6 weeks pass and their characters are back at level 1 among other things.

Based on their posts and other details about this wipe, you'll be grinding from the bottom up all over again, you don't and can't carry over materials you spent hours obtaining from the prior season(s), it's a massive time-sink for the same thing you already did.

My opinion is that, this is terrible, and not clearly stated anywhere aside from a post, that I imagine some people overlooked or skimmed.

Others were, in prior posts, saying it is the same as any other games with seasons, it is not. Other games with seasons don't wipe your progress to start over again, you carry your obtained goodies and move on to the next season to obtain even more goodies over time.

[MerlinW]

Originally posted by Jaynoble55:

Wipe's in a MMO? What benefit is it other than a blatant predatory monetization. I get it for things like FPS and Diablo's with little content so they just make you run it again and charge for it. Seasons are the new blight on gamers. But you still find people simping for it .

This is an ARPG mechanic. Like Diablo, POE and the rest. Except that instead of building variety there will be other things and events to play. It's a fresh idea, I like it, we'll see what happens.

[KingOfNothing]

They need to fix this for real. Super annoying. Why must I lose all my items and do everything again?

[Djozar]

People now know what to expect. 6 weeks in advance. Anyone that stays does so of their own free will. I will. I'm an altoholic. I love the early building and almost dread having nothing left to grind at end game. That's why I'm here. Other games I'm waiting for the season resets. Some of us enjoy that aspect, as weird as it might seem.

[Felky]

Originally posted by Ultimate_Dragon:

They need to fix this for real. Super annoying. Why must I lose all my items and do everything again?

You do not need to lose everything.
It has been posted already here and there but when a season ends your character gets transformed into a "standard" character and you keep everything and can continue playing on those "standard" servers.
Only if you choose to play the new season that starts when the previous one ends you need to start over.
And it's not even a complete full reset since you keep some unlocks like blueprints mods skins etc..

[Gyson]

Originally posted by psnjungle:

I think its a great idea, i personally never played anything that did something so drastic before. Im curious to see how i'll adapt to this. I love the fact that i keep my blueprints.

You know when you're playing an MMO, and you level your character to 50 and realize you made a huge mistake and need to start your character over? And you strip your level 50 character of everything that can be traded and store what you can in your shared stash before deleting the character, just so you don't feel like all of this has been a huge waste of time?

It's a lot like that.

[Grim]

There's a new mode coming called Everrealm. If you press ESC in game it's in the top right corner. That mode won't wipe

[Exobine]

Originally posted by Felky:

Originally posted by Ultimate_Dragon:

They need to fix this for real. Super annoying. Why must I lose all my items and do everything again?

You do not need to lose everything.
It has been posted already here and there but when a season ends your character gets transformed into a "standard" character and you keep everything and can continue playing on those "standard" servers.
Only if you choose to play the new season that starts when the previous one ends you need to start over.
And it's not even a complete full reset since you keep some unlocks like blueprints mods skins etc..

You don't necessarily lose everything no, but anything you've obtained is moved to a private instance with no other players, unless you invite them. There is no standard server and your character is not "transformed" just reset.

In summary, if you value showing off your progress on servers with all the other players, you can't, that stuff will be hidden in your private instance of goodies. In that sense you do lose
mostly everything, and need to re-grind to obtain your materials and what not again.

[Gyson]

Originally posted by Felky:

Originally posted by Ultimate_Dragon:

They need to fix this for real. Super annoying. Why must I lose all my items and do everything again?

You do not need to lose everything.
It has been posted already here and there but when a season ends your character gets transformed into a "standard" character and you keep everything and can continue playing on those "standard" servers.
Only if you choose to play the new season that starts when the previous one ends you need to start over.
And it's not even a complete full reset since you keep some unlocks like blueprints mods skins etc..

There are no "standard" servers. There are no "standard" characters. This isn't Diablo 4 with it's Eternal Realm and Seasonal Realms.

You get a limited amount of time to wrap up your affairs on the server with the concluded season, and then it's time for you to pick a new one. And while you're taking your time with that mop-up-duty of yours on the dying server, you're missing out on all the new events and FOMO rewards happening on the new seasonal server.

[Gyson]

Originally posted by Grim:

There's a new mode coming called Everrealm. If you press ESC in game it's in the top right corner. That mode won't wipe

If you're referring to Eternaland, that's just a private instanced area where you can play around with house building, and some of the items you obtained during your time on the seasonal servers is stored there. It's not somewhere you can play the main game from.

[Spiritos]

Originally posted by Exobine:

I'm surprised there isn't more attention paid to this, there are a few posts that are picking up traction, but it seems most of it is overshadowed by people screeching about the Privacy Policy more than anything.

I played the latest beta they had and sadly I was not aware of it being F2P or the nasty seasonal wipes, which the latter is why I am not playing, my choice.

I think most people playing right now see the season page and assume it works like other games, they're in for a treat when 6 weeks pass and their characters are back at level 1 among other things.

Based on their posts and other details about this wipe, you'll be grinding from the bottom up all over again, you don't and can't carry over materials you spent hours obtaining from the prior season(s), it's a massive time-sink for the same thing you already did.

My opinion is that, this is terrible, and not clearly stated anywhere aside from a post, that I imagine some people overlooked or skimmed.

Others were, in prior posts, saying it is the same as any other games with seasons, it is not. Other games with seasons don't wipe your progress to start over again, you carry your obtained goodies and move on to the next season to obtain even more goodies over time.

Have you read their privacy policy, what you actually are giving up you're rights to? Not just this game either. They sell you're data to whom ever wished to purchase it. Then there are the data breaches one recently I might add was very significant.
Not everyone published their life history on social media, whom also keep as such a low profiles on mobiles and gaming. Also do not have social media account.

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Originally posted by Spiritos:

Have you read their privacy policy, what you actually are giving up you're rights to? Not just this game either. They sell you're data to whom ever wished to purchase it. Then there are the data breaches one recently I might add was very significant.
Not everyone published their life history on social media, whom also keep as such a low profiles on mobiles and gaming. Also do not have social media account.

The entire world spies on you as soon as you set foot on the Internet and you literally have to be new online to not already know this.
Also this has nothing to do with what you're quoting or what OP is talking about and derailing a thread is against the community guidelines; not to be that guy but you guys are obnoxious.