guys are you not tired of all those survival games..?

[henri]

this one is like the 7th or so that comes out this year. nothing new or whatever.
the only survival game i liked was subnautica. i wish there was more varation in new games.

[Sol4rSky]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Gerfubhimself:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sol4rSky:

Why not include the Division? The game screams Division 2. The setting. The looting of containers in buildings. Except Division 2 has better enemy and AI. The only different part is the setting of camps and simple building here. In division 2 you got checkpoints on the map you go to craft and do stuff with your gear. It's the same thing done differently. Hitting E on trees and rock piles can be equivalented with Division's more advanced chests and such you can loot. It's all just masked loot anyway.

Also Div 2 has PVP in certain parts of the map with special loot. Has better missions anyway and it's all voiced. Then it has a nice loop.

Ps : When you can grab infinite water and "cook it" and carry 20 bottles on you where you can constantly have your thirst filled, that's far from survival or being different from any other game that doesn't have it.

This is actually insane that you're trying to compare the two. Division 1 and 2 are primarily loot-based games. The First Descendant is MUCH closer. The aesthetics are comparable on the on the most fundamental "post-apocalyptic" level, core gameplay loops aren't similar AT ALL. Like, looting chests for loot is a fundamental part of every RPG ever. Are Skyrim and The Division the same game? Upgrading is not similar at all, the Division's core loop of upgrading is through finding new loot, not upgrading it. You can't just take two very different gameplay systems and just say "they're the same, but not".

The games are similar. Anyone who has played Div2 will vouch for this. Just because here you can eat and drink (Plenty of that to the point where it's just filler) it doesn't mean it's far off from the division. You can also upgrade your stuff in div2 ands witch stuff around upgrade wise. The atmosphere is definitely there, you know the main aspect of the game, the gameplay is not much different and benches placed in a box doesn't make it much different either when you got the same stuff in division 2 except in more "makes sense" scenarios.

There's no "survival" in Once Human, thus Div 2 is a much better game.

[kaintk]

Oprindeligt skrevet af henri:

this one is like the 7th or so that comes out this year. nothing new or whatever.
the only survival game i liked was subnautica. i wish there was more varation in new games.

its a genre
is people have enough of FPS, RTS, MMORPG, RPG, JRPG, ACTION, ADVENTURE, ARPG, COOP, SOUL GAME, HORROR, ROGUELIKE, DUNGEON CRAWLER, STORYTELLING, PUZZLE, ARCADE, RETRO, ETC... ?

[TheShadowHatter]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sol4rSky:

7 days to die
Rust
Division 1 /2 (Though those are looter shooters, no building, just upgrading and "less survival")
Raft (and any such games where you either survive on the water or in "The Forest" though gotta give it to them, the themes are nice)
Palworld
Sons of the forest
Valheim
Ark games
Conan games


Could probably go on, except Once Human has that phone stuff feel to it + online incorporated heavily and has more of a Division feel to it due to the setting.

Most of those (if not all of those) aren't MMOs though. As someone who played Palworld and Valheim, I never saw random players running around to interact with. That's the main draw to why this game is getting the attention it's getting, because people want to feel like they're playing in a living and breathing world instead of an empty-ish world that has a few npcs in it.

[Sol4rSky]

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheShadowHatter:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sol4rSky:

7 days to die
Rust
Division 1 /2 (Though those are looter shooters, no building, just upgrading and "less survival")
Raft (and any such games where you either survive on the water or in "The Forest" though gotta give it to them, the themes are nice)
Palworld
Sons of the forest
Valheim
Ark games
Conan games


Could probably go on, except Once Human has that phone stuff feel to it + online incorporated heavily and has more of a Division feel to it due to the setting.

Most of those (if not all of those) aren't MMOs though. As someone who played Palworld and Valheim, I never saw random players running around to interact with. That's the main draw to why this game is getting the attention it's getting, because people want to feel like they're playing in a living and breathing world instead of an empty-ish world that has a few npcs in it.

But in reality it doesn't make much difference. Seeing random people run around with no reason to interact with them, seeing them clip attack some zombies around you, again doesn't add much to it. They could be random NPCS for all I care. Now of course if the PVP servers were actual PVP it'd have made for an interesting gameplay option to ally or fight off any player you see, give you something to do besides killing mindless ez tv box head zombies.

The MMO aspect is definitely not something to be excited about in this game.

[Manuel]

single player are better

[SamirayRcN]

en iyisi arkadaşlarla oyun girmek aga

[TheShadowHatter]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sol4rSky:

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheShadowHatter:

Most of those (if not all of those) aren't MMOs though. As someone who played Palworld and Valheim, I never saw random players running around to interact with. That's the main draw to why this game is getting the attention it's getting, because people want to feel like they're playing in a living and breathing world instead of an empty-ish world that has a few npcs in it.

But in reality it doesn't make much difference. Seeing random people run around with no reason to interact with them, seeing them clip attack some zombies around you, again doesn't add much to it. They could be random NPCS for all I care. Now of course if the PVP servers were actual PVP it'd have made for an interesting gameplay option to ally or fight off any player you see, give you something to do besides killing mindless ez tv box head zombies.

The MMO aspect is definitely not something to be excited about in this game.

I get what you're saying, and I agree with you, but we're talking about the average players here. OP is confused why there's so many that are into this game, and it's because average players don't care about your logic about it. To them, seeing other players is cool even if they never interact with them.

You and I aren't the average player, and we find enjoyment in more fulfilling parts like open world PVP and such, but your average joe who works a 9 - 5 and plays FIFA with the boys and goes to miller's ale house to crack a cold one and watch sports? yeah nah lol they just think it's cool to play and see randoms online, and as much as we don't want to admit it, they're the majority when it comes to FREE TO PLAY games like these. That's why there's such a rise in F2P games lately is to be accessible to these types of people and to try to keep them in the game and paying as much as they can.

[Djozar]

Oprindeligt skrevet af henri:

this one is like the 7th or so that comes out this year. nothing new or whatever.
the only survival game i liked was subnautica. i wish there was more varation in new games.

We could ask you the same, seeing you play too. It's all our fault, as you're playing to provide a public service, right?

[LeftPaw]

I like survival games and each one packs something a little different, but this game colours me confused. It's to daft to really enjoy, they tried to hard to make it different, yet in the end it's reverts to the go collect 10 bunny rabbits.

[Echo]

can you tell me about all those other survival games released this year? i know around 3 but they are all drastically different so they would be pretty silly examples

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

I'm just tired of bad games and this is one of them, like TFD :-/

[henri]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Djozar:

Oprindeligt skrevet af henri:

this one is like the 7th or so that comes out this year. nothing new or whatever.
the only survival game i liked was subnautica. i wish there was more varation in new games.

We could ask you the same, seeing you play too. It's all our fault, as you're playing to provide a public service, right?

only played like around 40mins , was not my cup of tea. want to try it but already uninstalled

[Misjah]

It's not a survival game.

[BD]

What all these survival games? This is the only one modern survival non-hardcore PvE (well and PvP) game with good graphics and features that is not made by some indie devs or even stuck permanently in the early access.

Fallout 76 is kind of similar but it's not new, not survival, barely developed and got only one real map expansion after all these years.