DO NOT LAUNCH

[ILLEGAL]

Do not install the game and do not launch it, today when I turned pc after yesterday's gaming session, 20 hidden background processes appeared in the task manager

[AoD_lexandro]

stargit님이 먼저 게시:

HybridViZ님이 먼저 게시:

Tons of games use those btw

Can you name me another game that uses those auto startup please.
I will wait.

The fact they are on auto-start is in point of fact irrelevant. One is simply a counter of activation's, the second is the players unique user id. Neither are actually required and can be disabled at any time.

[stargit]

AoD_lexandro님이 먼저 게시:

stargit님이 먼저 게시:

Can you name me another game that uses those auto startup please.
I will wait.

The fact they are on auto-start is in point of fact irrelevant. One is simply a counter of activation's, the second is the players unique user id. Neither are actually required and can be disabled at any time.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns

Find out for yourself.

[AoD_lexandro]

stargit님이 먼저 게시:

Find out for yourself.

It is irrelevant, they are not nefarious in any way shape or form.

[Darkeus]

Paradox님이 먼저 게시:

Zero-Three님이 먼저 게시:

Nope, i dislike netease just as much as i dislike nexxon (which is allot) but i dislike misinformation even more. Also wanted to give the solution to a problem that currently comes along with installation so it can be fixed on the user end since you can't trust companies do that type of thing.

I dislike misinformation too, but only because I have socks that have been around longer than it has been a word. It's a propaganda term. It was created to discredit any information that certain people didn't like.

◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬님이 먼저 게시:

Why don't you prove it's harmful? Prove there are "20 background tasks running" when you close it. It's not true. The 2 "start up" apps are marketing files by the company appsflyer which multiple people stated already in this thread and many others. You act very high and mighty for someone without an ounce of proof of any of these claims meanwhile everyone else is providing information and being ignored. It sounds more so like you just want to complain and act superior.

Proof you say? Sure.
https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2139460_eula_0

If you only understood that which you have read lol

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

right click in startup menu -> disable
problem solved

[◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬]

Darkeus님이 먼저 게시:

Paradox님이 먼저 게시:

I dislike misinformation too, but only because I have socks that have been around longer than it has been a word. It's a propaganda term. It was created to discredit any information that certain people didn't like.


Proof you say? Sure.
https://store.steampowered.com/eula/2139460_eula_0

If you only understood that which you have read lol

not to mention the steam EULA has nothing to do with this at all. lol.

[Kirilla]

Imagine saying that you have to uninstall windows itself since windows also creates temporary files LMAO

[stargit]

Hypertoken님이 먼저 게시:

I made a script to block AppsFlyer- https://github.com/Hypertoken/nospy

[Honor]

Ranghar님이 먼저 게시:

Shiloh님이 먼저 게시:

I found 2 apps under startup....one was called 10 but now it's called 11. And the other is a very long string of numbers, letters and dashes. So that's a little strange.

The 10 and then 11 is a counter variable for number of times you have launched the game. the very long string is the appflyer unique identifier. If you look at your registry you can see one is AF counter and one is AF uuid(unique user id). It's all in the appsflyer documentation I linked here.

Edit: They aren't apps, but just variables being loaded. You can see that if you just fire up regedit and search for that long string you are talking about.

Thank you for clarifying that. :-)

[Paradox]

TimsGamingDen님이 먼저 게시:

Paradox님이 먼저 게시:

I don't use facebook or tiktok, because I'm older than 12. In fact, Steam, this platform here, is the most egregious one I use when it comes to my personal information and the violation of my privacy. Other than simply going out in public, of course, which has who knows how many cameras scanning me, recording me, and watching my every action.

Im just giving 2 examples, but you are not gonna convince anyone that you dont use ANY form of social media account, now or in the past.

Even youtube has been fined to sell kids data in the past, but you gonna say 'im not using youtube'

Sure man.... you are the caveman that only is present on steam huh...

/hypocrit

When I say I try to minimize my presence, why is that so hard to believe?

[Doc. Devil]

◬ ☥ 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕜 ☥ ◬님이 먼저 게시:

Darkrayne님이 먼저 게시:

Invasive mobile style games like Summoners War, yes.
It's unnecessary and it will be removed. No game should be running processes when you aren't playing it.

its not running when you don't play it, for one. Two thanks for the blog, just disable it like every other normal human on the planet instead of yelling at clouds and steam forums users as if theyre the developers

This

Brakiros님이 먼저 게시:

Darkrayne님이 먼저 게시:

Yep, clearly showing new startup processes with CCleaner.

AF_counter_#######
AF_uuid_#######

What is this nonsense....? I was having fun but I'm uninstalling and purging my PC after seeing this BS.

You must be incredibly bored or incredibly paranoid

Dude it's probably both lol

[Ranghar]

stargit님이 먼저 게시:

HybridViZ님이 먼저 게시:

Tons of games use those btw

Can you name me another game that uses those auto startup please.
I will wait.

https://dev.appsflyer.com/hc/docs/nativepc-vanilla

Just get this https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns

Yeah, I can. Summoners War here on steam.

A lot of games designed for mobile include appsflyer. It's only when it's ported to PC that you see those startup variables.

Edit: There is also a way with appsflyer to integrate with steam to avoid that startup entry issue I believe.

If I am being honest I am shocked they are just tracking counter and uuid. There are variables to track everything.

[3lobyt3]

Holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ jesus do I hate reading every single word on this topic. I recently installed First Descendant, and I have these 2 stupid f+'king files dangling there on startup and no way to remove them. I found them in the registry, you can find them too by typing that number into Edit/Find... on windows registry editor. I want to remove them so bad but I'm afraid it'll break everything permantently, as it usually does. Did I mention that I hate reading every single word on this topic? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANGER UNSEEN. I AM LIVID.

[Ranghar]

3lobyt3님이 먼저 게시:

Holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ jesus do I hate reading every single word on this topic. I recently installed First Descendant, and I have these 2 stupid f+'king files dangling there on startup and no way to remove them. I found them in the registry, you can find them too by typing that number into Edit/Find... on windows registry editor. I want to remove them so bad but I'm afraid it'll break everything permantently, as it usually does. Did I mention that I hate reading every single word on this topic? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANGER UNSEEN. I AM LIVID.

You can remove them, but it will just generate a new one next time you launch it...Which kind of defeats the purpose of them using a tracking id to begin with.

[3lobyt3]

I actually read Terms and Conditions for both Once Human and First Descendant, and I refused to install Once Human because of dodgy T&Cs. But with FD I just said "fk it" and clicked ok and now we're here. I'm not a man that panics, but I think this is spyware, they created a way to get on a lot of gaming PCs at once, with a free game, the agenda could be something straight out of a hacker movie, in today's world that wouldn't be a surprise to me. Unfortunately I once got a Korean virus before, it was a whole payload actually, replaced everything on my PC with Korean bullsh?&t, I did my best to reverse it but it couldn't be done, it was based on the old frogger virus and I couldn't manually contain it without any tools, so I had to erase the HDD completely. In other words, I hate Korean hackers, programmers and pretty much anything computer related. Hate it. It needs to stop. Steam needs to get to the bottom of this. If there's a petition or something happening, let me know, I've got a few words to share.