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Eightball 9 JUL 2024 a las 5:30 p. m.
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Check the EULA
I know some of you won't care and there are probably paid shills who will come here and try and argue otherwise. But I hope you all realise how much of a dataminer this game is. When you accept the EULA you are agreeing to give them basically every piece of information they can datamine from you. Everything about you. Personal information, password info, Government ID, address, IP address, location and mailing address, billing, birthday, social media, and collection of your friends on social media, nicknames, real names, first and last name.

I'm not even exaggerating. They literally want all your friends real names too.

And you are literally signing away your passwords to an unknown chinese entity, who will do god knows what with them. Like, your actual passwords. I don't have a single game that has required I give it my passwords. Probably they are going to sell them or give them to government hacking groups.

Good old chinese dataminer. That's why this is free, the chinese government want to know everything about you. They want as many people to log into this game as possible so they can steal all of your private information because you didn't read the EULA and realise what you were doing.

Anyway I hope this reaches at least some of you before they decide this type of information shouldn't get out and they delete my post. It's in the EULA, go look.

Edit: Stickied post answers any questions you might have about what is going on here. You can all make your own mind up if this is acceptable to you or not, but at least the information is here now and you can make your own decisions.

P.S. be VERY aware of the amount of people on this thread who will try to convince you that you shouldn't care about your data and just give it to them. Very, very, very questionable behaviours going on here. Don't be too surprised if many of these are fake profiles or have chinese links.

I would probably have installed this game myself if it was not for another persons reviews and warnings. I'm glad they did it and now i'm passing on the favour to you. I hope you receive this information and make your own decision before installing this dataminer.

Edit2: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/advice-for-small-organisations/whats-new/blogs/data-sharing-when-is-it-unlawful/

Have a look at the section titled:- It's unlawful to share data when...

They fail under pretty much every category.

Edit3: The devs have responded, albeit on discord for some reason. Check the following link.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2139460/discussions/0/4410795727365489104/

I personally am not satisfied by this response, but I will include it here for fairness and clarity.

Edit4: How to opt out:- it seems there is a couple of ways.
"To request to opt out of any future "sharing" of your Personal Information for purposes of cross-contextual behavioral advertising, or any future processing for purposes of targeted advertising, if you're logged in, you may set your preference via "Account Center" – "Ads Settings" in your account, or if you're not logged in or don't have an account with us, you may set your preference by clicking "Do Not Share My Personal Information" link at the bottom of the applicable web pages." If you wish to opt out of even more, read below.

https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html#div2
i'll put a spoiler on this as it's a huge section I have copied and pasted from their terms and probably only people interested in opting out will be interested, i'll try to save others eyes. I can't seem to find anything akin to a collapsible, so this is the best I can do. I hope for everyones sake who has agreed to their EULA and logged into the game, that they are not abusing your information or doing anything shady with it. At the very least I hope this has raised awareness on GDPR + Data protection laws, your consumer rights, and what companies can and cannot do with your data. It's a very worthwhile modern discussion.

I'm going to go get some sleep and likely won't revisit this to post myself. I hope I have included the necessary information to be fair and representative to the other party even if I don't necessarily agree or trust them personally. You all are adults, you can make your own decisions regarding your privacy.

I really don't think this EULA has been proof read or double checked by actual lawyers. It's got a crazy amount of typos in it. Prizes for the person that spots the most. Comes across as a pretty unprofessional and rushed document.

"• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or"

That part though, lols. Almost sounds like an admission of guilt. I know it's not, but I won't lie I did do a double take when I read that section, lmao.

CHOICES AND INDIVIDUALS' RIGHTS

Your choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information

We give you choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information for marketing purposes. You may opt out from:

(1) Receiving marketing-related messages from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing-related messages from us on a going-forward basis, please follow the instructions in our messages to unsubscribe or contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com to opt out.

(2) Receiving marketing-related push notifications from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing related push notifications from us on a going-forward basis, you may opt out by disabling push notifications for the relevant App on your device.

(3) Our sharing of your Personal Information with affiliates for their direct marketing purposes. If you would prefer that we discontinue sharing your Personal Information on a going-forward basis with our affiliates for their direct marketing purposes, you may opt out of this sharing by contacting us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com.

We will try to comply with your request(s) as soon as reasonably practicable. Please note that if you opt out of receiving marketing from us, we may still send you important administrative messages, from which you cannot opt out.

How you can exercise your rights

You have certain rights in relation to the Personal Information we hold about you. These rights may be limited, for example if fulfilling your request would reveal personal data about another person, where they would infringe the rights of a third party (including our rights) or if you ask us to erase information which we are required by law to keep or have compelling legitimate interests in keeping. Relevant exemptions are included in both the GDPR/UK GDPR and in relevant local implementing legislation.

(1) Access: You have the right to access Personal Information we hold about you and to certain information about the processing of that information. To exercise this right, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service.

(2) Portability: You have the right to receive a copy of certain Personal Information we process about you. This comprises any Personal Information we process on the legal basis as described in the section "Collection and Processing Of Personal Information". You have the right to receive this information in a structured, commonly used and machine-readable format. You also have the right to request that we transfer that Personal Information to another party. If you wish for us to transfer such Personal Information to a third party, please ensure you detail that party in your request. Note that we can only do so where it is technically feasible.

(3) Correction: You have the right to rectify/correct any Personal Information about you that is inaccurate. To exercise this right, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service.

(4) Erasure: You can delete your account or request the erasure of your Personal Information in certain circumstances. If you would like to make such an erasure request, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service. We may need to retain Personal Information if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for use to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or freedom of expression).

(5) Restriction of Processing to Storage Only: You have a right to request us to stop processing the Personal Information we hold about you other than for storage purposes in certain circumstances. Please note, however, that if we stop processing the Personal Information, we may use it again if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for us to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or for another's protection).

You may request us to step processing and just to store the Personal Information we hold about you where:

• you believe the Personal Information is not accurate for the period it takes for us to verify whether it is accurate;

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as it is no longer necessary for our purposes but you require it to be stored for the establishment, exercise or defense of legal claims.

(6) Objection: You have the right to object to our processing of Personal Information about you where we are pursuing our legitimate interests or those of a third party. You may send your request by contacting us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contacting the in-game customer service.

(7) Right to Withdraw Your Consent: Where we reply on your consent to process your Personal Information, you have the right to withdraw this consent at any time. Please note that withdrawing this consent will not affect the lawfulness of how we processed your Personal Information before you withdraw it.

We will respond to your request consistent with applicable laws. In your request, please make clear what Personal Information you would like to have changed or whether you would like to have your Personal Information suppressed from our database. For your protection, we may only implement requests with respect to the Personal Information associated with the particular email address that you use to send us your request, and we may need to verify your identity before implementing your request. We will try to comply with your request as soon as reasonably practicable.

Please note that we may need to retain certain information for recordkeeping purposes and/or to complete any transactions that you began prior to requesting a change or deletion (e.g., when you make a purchase or enter a promotion, you may not be able to change or delete the Personal Information provided until after the completion of such purchase or promotion).

You may lodge a complaint with the protection authority for your country or region where you have your habitual residence or place of work or where an alleged infringement of applicable data protection law occurs. A list of EEA data protection authorities is available at https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/items/612080. You can file a complaint with the UK ICO at https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/data-protection-complaints/data-protection-complaints/.
Última edición por Eightball; 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:47 p. m.
Publicado originalmente por Kirito:
This is what you pay to play this game:

Personal Identifiers
: Includes names, aliases, postal addresses, unique personal identifiers, online identifiers, email addresses, account names, social security numbers, driver’s license numbers, passport numbers, and other similar identifiers.

Protected Characteristics
: Information like race, gender, age, and disability status.

Commercial Information
: Records of personal property, products or services purchased, obtained, or considered, or other purchasing or consuming histories or tendencies.

Biometric Information
: Physiological, biological, or behavioral characteristics that can be used to establish individual identity.

Internet Activity
: Browsing history, search history, and information regarding a consumer’s interaction with an internet website, application, or advertisement.

Geolocation Data
: Precise physical location data.

Audio, Electronic, Visual, Thermal, Olfactory, or Similar Information
: Data such as voice recordings and video recordings.

Professional or Employment Information
: Current or past job history or performance evaluations.

Education Information
: Information that is not publicly available personally identifiable information as defined in the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act.

Inferences
: Drawn from other personal information to create a profile about a consumer reflecting the consumer’s preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, and aptitudes.

As they say information is more valuable then money.

You can read full EULA here: https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html#div4

Edit:

JUST TO CLARIFY:

While the data collection practices in the EULA are extensive, they must comply with legal standards like GDPR, ensuring transparency and informed consent. The list I provided highlights the potential scope of data collection, not necessarily what is collected from every user. It's important to understand the legal context and how the EULA aligns with it. These practices may seem extensive, but this doesn't necessarily mean they violate laws if implemented correctly and transparently.

edit2:

EULA has been clarified: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2139460/discussions/0/4410795727365489104/
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Eightball 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:05 p. m. 
Just an update for anyone following the thread but has not lately visited the OP's edits. I have now updated it with the necessary information to both opt out and request your data from Netease.

Still no idea how trustworthy they are or how truthful they will be with you, but it's something at least for anyone interested, who perhaps regrets their choices or is looking for more information to assure them this type of data collection is OK. I'm not saying my opinion either way, but at least I found the opt out data for anyone who wishes to use it. Hope it helps.

It's in here:- https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html#div2
Última edición por Eightball; 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:08 p. m.
FINAL_Bₒₛₛ 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:06 p. m. 
Very hypocritical.

If you have installed/use any of these live services but not willing to accept the game's EULA due to data-mining then you are an hypocrite or ignorant:
Google
Microsoft
Meta and their apps
Pretty much a lot of apps datamine your information in different ways.
Última edición por FINAL_Bₒₛₛ; 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:08 p. m.
Dovah 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:09 p. m. 
You are the product.
Eightball 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:50 p. m. 
Have included all options for opting out, and data requesting of your data. Would be very much interested to hear how this process goes from anyone trying it. I haven't actually played the game or installed it so I can't and won't try this myself.

I'd be very much interested to see what kind of data they give you on request. And how compliant they are with GDPR requests. That at least might give some consumers a bit more peace of mind.
Fish Hammer 9 JUL 2024 a las 11:56 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Eightball:
Publicado originalmente por bvghgb:
Bro you have downloaded almost 500 games from steam. You are delusional if you think all that information of yours isn't already out there.

Yeah, out of all 500 of those games not a single one of them wants my passwords, or my friends and families real names. That's just creepy AF.

After reading through the privacy policy, they do have some strange practices, including needing to email their support to have them not distribute your info anymore, however the info they will have is limited. Everyone trying to make you believe the boogeyman is stealing your identity is misinformed. They say "government issued id" and closed the privacy policy without ever getting to the "where laws require" part of the sentence. Your government id is only needed in areas where the law requires it to verify age, for example china. They cant get any information from you that you dont give them, or else this game would be a trojan, and steam would not allow it. The geolocation and ip part of the privacy policy is most likely used for their anticheat to ip ban cheaters, and the hardware serials part is most likely used for performance metrics, which basically any online game company does. As for the crypto miner claims, i dont have any comment on that.

TLDR; They cant get any information you dont give them, so dont give them any passwords, logins, or social media accounts and you dont have to worry about anything.
CyberOp53 10 JUL 2024 a las 8:53 a. m. 
Thanks for the post and F U C K China
Interl@ce 10 JUL 2024 a las 8:55 a. m. 
This thread needs to be kept on top at ALL TIMES-- people should be made aware of what they're actually agreeing to with this one. Scary stuff.
Última edición por Interl@ce; 10 JUL 2024 a las 8:55 a. m.
[RAID]Missionary 10 JUL 2024 a las 8:57 a. m. 
But how does it get your passwords? ANd how does it get your ID? Do you have to give it my password to Bitwarden? Do I have to upload my ID to play the game? Do i write a list of all my friends names? I dont understand. How does it get this info.
Figo 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:00 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Eightball:
I know some of you won't care and there are probably paid shills who will come here and try and argue otherwise. But I hope you all realise how much of a dataminer this game is. When you accept the EULA you are agreeing to give them basically every piece of information they can datamine from you. Everything about you. Personal information, password info, Government ID, address, IP address, location and mailing address, billing, birthday, social media, and collection of your friends on social media, nicknames, real names, first and last name.

I'm not even exaggerating. They literally want all your friends real names too.

And you are literally signing away your passwords to an unknown chinese entity, who will do god knows what with them. Like, your actual passwords. I don't have a single game that has required I give it my passwords. Probably they are going to sell them or give them to government hacking groups.

Good old chinese dataminer. That's why this is free, the chinese government want to know everything about you. They want as many people to log into this game as possible so they can steal all of your private information because you didn't read the EULA and realise what you were doing.

Anyway I hope this reaches at least some of you before they decide this type of information shouldn't get out and they delete my post. It's in the EULA, go look.

Edit: Stickied post answers any questions you might have about what is going on here. You can all make your own mind up if this is acceptable to you or not, but at least the information is here now and you can make your own decisions.

P.S. be VERY aware of the amount of people on this thread who will try to convince you that you shouldn't care about your data and just give it to them. Very, very, very questionable behaviours going on here. Don't be too surprised if many of these are fake profiles or have chinese links.

I would probably have installed this game myself if it was not for another persons reviews and warnings. I'm glad they did it and now i'm passing on the favour to you. I hope you receive this information and make your own decision before installing this dataminer.

Edit2: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/advice-for-small-organisations/whats-new/blogs/data-sharing-when-is-it-unlawful/

Have a look at the section titled:- It's unlawful to share data when...

They fail under pretty much every category.

Edit3: The devs have responded, albeit on discord for some reason. Check the following link.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2139460/discussions/0/4410795727365489104/

I personally am not satisfied by this response, but I will include it here for fairness and clarity.

Edit4: How to opt out:- it seems there is a couple of ways.
"To request to opt out of any future "sharing" of your Personal Information for purposes of cross-contextual behavioral advertising, or any future processing for purposes of targeted advertising, if you're logged in, you may set your preference via "Account Center" – "Ads Settings" in your account, or if you're not logged in or don't have an account with us, you may set your preference by clicking "Do Not Share My Personal Information" link at the bottom of the applicable web pages." If you wish to opt out of even more, read below.

https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html#div2
i'll put a spoiler on this as it's a huge section I have copied and pasted from their terms and probably only people interested in opting out will be interested, i'll try to save others eyes. I can't seem to find anything akin to a collapsible, so this is the best I can do. I hope for everyones sake who has agreed to their EULA and logged into the game, that they are not abusing your information or doing anything shady with it. At the very least I hope this has raised awareness on GDPR + Data protection laws, your consumer rights, and what companies can and cannot do with your data. It's a very worthwhile modern discussion.

I'm going to go get some sleep and likely won't revisit this to post myself. I hope I have included the necessary information to be fair and representative to the other party even if I don't necessarily agree or trust them personally. You all are adults, you can make your own decisions regarding your privacy.

I really don't think this EULA has been proof read or double checked by actual lawyers. It's got a crazy amount of typos in it. Prizes for the person that spots the most. Comes across as a pretty unprofessional and rushed document.

"• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or"

That part though, lols. Almost sounds like an admission of guilt. I know it's not, but I won't lie I did do a double take when I read that section, lmao.

CHOICES AND INDIVIDUALS' RIGHTS

Your choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information

We give you choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information for marketing purposes. You may opt out from:

(1) Receiving marketing-related messages from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing-related messages from us on a going-forward basis, please follow the instructions in our messages to unsubscribe or contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com to opt out.

(2) Receiving marketing-related push notifications from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing related push notifications from us on a going-forward basis, you may opt out by disabling push notifications for the relevant App on your device.

(3) Our sharing of your Personal Information with affiliates for their direct marketing purposes. If you would prefer that we discontinue sharing your Personal Information on a going-forward basis with our affiliates for their direct marketing purposes, you may opt out of this sharing by contacting us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com.

We will try to comply with your request(s) as soon as reasonably practicable. Please note that if you opt out of receiving marketing from us, we may still send you important administrative messages, from which you cannot opt out.

How you can exercise your rights

You have certain rights in relation to the Personal Information we hold about you. These rights may be limited, for example if fulfilling your request would reveal personal data about another person, where they would infringe the rights of a third party (including our rights) or if you ask us to erase information which we are required by law to keep or have compelling legitimate interests in keeping. Relevant exemptions are included in both the GDPR/UK GDPR and in relevant local implementing legislation.

(1) Access: You have the right to access Personal Information we hold about you and to certain information about the processing of that information. To exercise this right, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service.

(2) Portability: You have the right to receive a copy of certain Personal Information we process about you. This comprises any Personal Information we process on the legal basis as described in the section "Collection and Processing Of Personal Information". You have the right to receive this information in a structured, commonly used and machine-readable format. You also have the right to request that we transfer that Personal Information to another party. If you wish for us to transfer such Personal Information to a third party, please ensure you detail that party in your request. Note that we can only do so where it is technically feasible.

(3) Correction: You have the right to rectify/correct any Personal Information about you that is inaccurate. To exercise this right, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service.

(4) Erasure: You can delete your account or request the erasure of your Personal Information in certain circumstances. If you would like to make such an erasure request, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service. We may need to retain Personal Information if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for use to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or freedom of expression).

(5) Restriction of Processing to Storage Only: You have a right to request us to stop processing the Personal Information we hold about you other than for storage purposes in certain circumstances. Please note, however, that if we stop processing the Personal Information, we may use it again if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for us to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or for another's protection).

You may request us to step processing and just to store the Personal Information we hold about you where:

• you believe the Personal Information is not accurate for the period it takes for us to verify whether it is accurate;

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as it is no longer necessary for our purposes but you require it to be stored for the establishment, exercise or defense of legal claims.

(6) Objection: You have the right to object to our processing of Personal Information about you where we are pursuing our legitimate interests or those of a third party. You may send your request by contacting us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contacting the in-game customer service.

(7) Right to Withdraw Your Consent: Where we reply on your consent to process your Personal Information, you have the right to withdraw this consent at any time. Please note that withdrawing this consent will not affect the lawfulness of how we processed your Personal Information before you withdraw it.

We will respond to your request consistent with applicable laws. In your request, please make clear what Personal Information you would like to have changed or whether you would like to have your Personal Information suppressed from our database. For your protection, we may only implement requests with respect to the Personal Information associated with the particular email address that you use to send us your request, and we may need to verify your identity before implementing your request. We will try to comply with your request as soon as reasonably practicable.

Please note that we may need to retain certain information for recordkeeping purposes and/or to complete any transactions that you began prior to requesting a change or deletion (e.g., when you make a purchase or enter a promotion, you may not be able to change or delete the Personal Information provided until after the completion of such purchase or promotion).

You may lodge a complaint with the protection authority for your country or region where you have your habitual residence or place of work or where an alleged infringement of applicable data protection law occurs. A list of EEA data protection authorities is available at https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/items/612080. You can file a complaint with the UK ICO at https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/data-protection-complaints/data-protection-complaints/.

pls give you mobile phone away cause they all know your little secrets dellete youtube no best unistall windows they all know your little secrets too just go offline unistall internet
Collateral 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:00 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por RAIDMissionary:
But how does it get your passwords? ANd how does it get your ID? Do you have to give it my password to Bitwarden? Do I have to upload my ID to play the game? Do i write a list of all my friends names? I dont understand. How does it get this info.

It dosen't,

its just fear mongering, there is nothing crazy bad or unusual about their EULA

These post tend to be just trendy these days and people believe anything without reading or understanding it themselves.
Kinetic Bullet 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:02 a. m. 
Apps on phones sell your personal private information to Facebook and Google.
Father Lamb 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:04 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Collateral:
Publicado originalmente por RAIDMissionary:
But how does it get your passwords? ANd how does it get your ID? Do you have to give it my password to Bitwarden? Do I have to upload my ID to play the game? Do i write a list of all my friends names? I dont understand. How does it get this info.

It dosen't,

its just fear mongering, there is nothing crazy bad or unusual about their EULA

These post tend to be just trendy these days and people believe anything without reading or understanding it themselves.

This is the same EULA on just about every app and game ever... people just FINALLY READ ONE FOR ONCE lmfao
BALOCHISTAN LIBERATION ARMY 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:07 a. m. 
Well informed and much needed post.
NovaMew 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:08 a. m. 
From Pirate Software

For all the people currently freaking out about the Once Human Privacy Policy.

The policy states under "Personal Information we receive from you:" that they receive "Name & Contact Details" "Such as first and last name, title, prefix, email address, telephone number, (instant) messaging account, postal address, date of birth, age, gender, country/region, and government-issued ID, such as passport information, as required by applicable laws for age verification and correction of personal information."

The general internet has warped this into a demanded requirement and a privacy issue. It's not. These are only sent to the company when required by applicable local laws. This is why it says "Receive from you" and "as required by applicable laws".

In some countries government issued ID's are required for live service game access. If you are not in one of these countries you obviously are not asked or required to present those documents.

Fearmongering on social media is boring as ♥♥♥♥.



Also people should stay off the internet since they have no idea how the internet works.
Slimurgical (Stormy) 10 JUL 2024 a las 9:09 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Eightball:
I know some of you won't care and there are probably paid shills who will come here and try and argue otherwise. But I hope you all realise how much of a dataminer this game is. When you accept the EULA you are agreeing to give them basically every piece of information they can datamine from you. Everything about you. Personal information, password info, Government ID, address, IP address, location and mailing address, billing, birthday, social media, and collection of your friends on social media, nicknames, real names, first and last name.

I'm not even exaggerating. They literally want all your friends real names too.

And you are literally signing away your passwords to an unknown chinese entity, who will do god knows what with them. Like, your actual passwords. I don't have a single game that has required I give it my passwords. Probably they are going to sell them or give them to government hacking groups.

Good old chinese dataminer. That's why this is free, the chinese government want to know everything about you. They want as many people to log into this game as possible so they can steal all of your private information because you didn't read the EULA and realise what you were doing.

Anyway I hope this reaches at least some of you before they decide this type of information shouldn't get out and they delete my post. It's in the EULA, go look.

Edit: Stickied post answers any questions you might have about what is going on here. You can all make your own mind up if this is acceptable to you or not, but at least the information is here now and you can make your own decisions.

P.S. be VERY aware of the amount of people on this thread who will try to convince you that you shouldn't care about your data and just give it to them. Very, very, very questionable behaviours going on here. Don't be too surprised if many of these are fake profiles or have chinese links.

I would probably have installed this game myself if it was not for another persons reviews and warnings. I'm glad they did it and now i'm passing on the favour to you. I hope you receive this information and make your own decision before installing this dataminer.

Edit2: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/advice-for-small-organisations/whats-new/blogs/data-sharing-when-is-it-unlawful/

Have a look at the section titled:- It's unlawful to share data when...

They fail under pretty much every category.

Edit3: The devs have responded, albeit on discord for some reason. Check the following link.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2139460/discussions/0/4410795727365489104/

I personally am not satisfied by this response, but I will include it here for fairness and clarity.

Edit4: How to opt out:- it seems there is a couple of ways.
"To request to opt out of any future "sharing" of your Personal Information for purposes of cross-contextual behavioral advertising, or any future processing for purposes of targeted advertising, if you're logged in, you may set your preference via "Account Center" – "Ads Settings" in your account, or if you're not logged in or don't have an account with us, you may set your preference by clicking "Do Not Share My Personal Information" link at the bottom of the applicable web pages." If you wish to opt out of even more, read below.

https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html#div2
i'll put a spoiler on this as it's a huge section I have copied and pasted from their terms and probably only people interested in opting out will be interested, i'll try to save others eyes. I can't seem to find anything akin to a collapsible, so this is the best I can do. I hope for everyones sake who has agreed to their EULA and logged into the game, that they are not abusing your information or doing anything shady with it. At the very least I hope this has raised awareness on GDPR + Data protection laws, your consumer rights, and what companies can and cannot do with your data. It's a very worthwhile modern discussion.

I'm going to go get some sleep and likely won't revisit this to post myself. I hope I have included the necessary information to be fair and representative to the other party even if I don't necessarily agree or trust them personally. You all are adults, you can make your own decisions regarding your privacy.

I really don't think this EULA has been proof read or double checked by actual lawyers. It's got a crazy amount of typos in it. Prizes for the person that spots the most. Comes across as a pretty unprofessional and rushed document.

"• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or"

That part though, lols. Almost sounds like an admission of guilt. I know it's not, but I won't lie I did do a double take when I read that section, lmao.

CHOICES AND INDIVIDUALS' RIGHTS

Your choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information

We give you choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information for marketing purposes. You may opt out from:

(1) Receiving marketing-related messages from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing-related messages from us on a going-forward basis, please follow the instructions in our messages to unsubscribe or contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com to opt out.

(2) Receiving marketing-related push notifications from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing related push notifications from us on a going-forward basis, you may opt out by disabling push notifications for the relevant App on your device.

(3) Our sharing of your Personal Information with affiliates for their direct marketing purposes. If you would prefer that we discontinue sharing your Personal Information on a going-forward basis with our affiliates for their direct marketing purposes, you may opt out of this sharing by contacting us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com.

We will try to comply with your request(s) as soon as reasonably practicable. Please note that if you opt out of receiving marketing from us, we may still send you important administrative messages, from which you cannot opt out.

How you can exercise your rights

You have certain rights in relation to the Personal Information we hold about you. These rights may be limited, for example if fulfilling your request would reveal personal data about another person, where they would infringe the rights of a third party (including our rights) or if you ask us to erase information which we are required by law to keep or have compelling legitimate interests in keeping. Relevant exemptions are included in both the GDPR/UK GDPR and in relevant local implementing legislation.

(1) Access: You have the right to access Personal Information we hold about you and to certain information about the processing of that information. To exercise this right, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service.

(2) Portability: You have the right to receive a copy of certain Personal Information we process about you. This comprises any Personal Information we process on the legal basis as described in the section "Collection and Processing Of Personal Information". You have the right to receive this information in a structured, commonly used and machine-readable format. You also have the right to request that we transfer that Personal Information to another party. If you wish for us to transfer such Personal Information to a third party, please ensure you detail that party in your request. Note that we can only do so where it is technically feasible.

(3) Correction: You have the right to rectify/correct any Personal Information about you that is inaccurate. To exercise this right, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service.

(4) Erasure: You can delete your account or request the erasure of your Personal Information in certain circumstances. If you would like to make such an erasure request, please contact us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contact the in-game customer service. We may need to retain Personal Information if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for use to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or freedom of expression).

(5) Restriction of Processing to Storage Only: You have a right to request us to stop processing the Personal Information we hold about you other than for storage purposes in certain circumstances. Please note, however, that if we stop processing the Personal Information, we may use it again if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for us to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or for another's protection).

You may request us to step processing and just to store the Personal Information we hold about you where:

• you believe the Personal Information is not accurate for the period it takes for us to verify whether it is accurate;

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as it is no longer necessary for our purposes but you require it to be stored for the establishment, exercise or defense of legal claims.

(6) Objection: You have the right to object to our processing of Personal Information about you where we are pursuing our legitimate interests or those of a third party. You may send your request by contacting us at personal_data_ne@global.netease.com or contacting the in-game customer service.

(7) Right to Withdraw Your Consent: Where we reply on your consent to process your Personal Information, you have the right to withdraw this consent at any time. Please note that withdrawing this consent will not affect the lawfulness of how we processed your Personal Information before you withdraw it.

We will respond to your request consistent with applicable laws. In your request, please make clear what Personal Information you would like to have changed or whether you would like to have your Personal Information suppressed from our database. For your protection, we may only implement requests with respect to the Personal Information associated with the particular email address that you use to send us your request, and we may need to verify your identity before implementing your request. We will try to comply with your request as soon as reasonably practicable.

Please note that we may need to retain certain information for recordkeeping purposes and/or to complete any transactions that you began prior to requesting a change or deletion (e.g., when you make a purchase or enter a promotion, you may not be able to change or delete the Personal Information provided until after the completion of such purchase or promotion).

You may lodge a complaint with the protection authority for your country or region where you have your habitual residence or place of work or where an alleged infringement of applicable data protection law occurs. A list of EEA data protection authorities is available at https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/items/612080. You can file a complaint with the UK ICO at https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/data-protection-complaints/data-protection-complaints/.
Question, where in the EULA are you seeing this? Specifically what number is it?

Also PirateSoftware is right, most EULAs that talk about this kind of thing is not as ridiculous as people think.
This whole idea of "They take your Biometric data" being bad is funny because when do you have the ability to add it to the game? If you don't want them to spy on you so badly that you'll jump conclusions, guess what, not only is the NSA already doing all of that and probably much more, but so is every major smartphone on the market doing this, reporting back to google and Apple your actual location via cell tower triangulation at All times. It's why when, if you went to the car shop, Amazon will suddenly start recommending you accessories for the inside of your car, despite never looking that up on Amazon, or google gives you ads for car care.

Even just browser data gives away more than I get most are realizing. Your browser literally gives others your location, your IP, your logged-in services may also leak, but your Operating system, browser type and your configuration (which can still identify you, just those last 3) are all transmitted in normal day-to-day website-to-browser interactions.

TL;DR - Internet users are only now realizing how much data they sign away when they just Access The Internet in the modern day and it ends up being much more than they thought.

Spoiler: NordVPN doesn't protect your privacy or give you security, it changes your geolocation to access different services that are region-locked, and possibly allows people to.

Learn to Read, get off Twitter and Reddit and actually read the TOS after you've actually researched what privacy on the internet has looked like these past 20 years.
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