Check the EULA

[Eightball]

I know some of you won't care and there are probably paid shills who will come here and try and argue otherwise. But I hope you all realise how much of a dataminer this game is. When you accept the EULA you are agreeing to give them basically every piece of information they can datamine from you. Everything about you. Personal information, password info, Government ID, address, IP address, location and mailing address, billing, birthday, social media, and collection of your friends on social media, nicknames, real names, first and last name.

I'm not even exaggerating. They literally want all your friends real names too.

And you are literally signing away your passwords to an unknown chinese entity, who will do god knows what with them. Like, your actual passwords. I don't have a single game that has required I give it my passwords. Probably they are going to sell them or give them to government hacking groups.

Good old chinese dataminer. That's why this is free, the chinese government want to know everything about you. They want as many people to log into this game as possible so they can steal all of your private information because you didn't read the EULA and realise what you were doing.

Anyway I hope this reaches at least some of you before they decide this type of information shouldn't get out and they delete my post. It's in the EULA, go look.

Edit: Stickied post answers any questions you might have about what is going on here. You can all make your own mind up if this is acceptable to you or not, but at least the information is here now and you can make your own decisions.

P.S. be VERY aware of the amount of people on this thread who will try to convince you that you shouldn't care about your data and just give it to them. Very, very, very questionable behaviours going on here. Don't be too surprised if many of these are fake profiles or have chinese links.

I would probably have installed this game myself if it was not for another persons reviews and warnings. I'm glad they did it and now i'm passing on the favour to you. I hope you receive this information and make your own decision before installing this dataminer.

Edit2: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/advice-for-small-organisations/whats-new/blogs/data-sharing-when-is-it-unlawful/

Have a look at the section titled:- It's unlawful to share data when...

They fail under pretty much every category.

Edit3: The devs have responded, albeit on discord for some reason. Check the following link.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2139460/discussions/0/4410795727365489104/

I personally am not satisfied by this response, but I will include it here for fairness and clarity.

Edit4: How to opt out:- it seems there is a couple of ways.
"To request to opt out of any future "sharing" of your Personal Information for purposes of cross-contextual behavioral advertising, or any future processing for purposes of targeted advertising, if you're logged in, you may set your preference via "Account Center" – "Ads Settings" in your account, or if you're not logged in or don't have an account with us, you may set your preference by clicking "Do Not Share My Personal Information" link at the bottom of the applicable web pages." If you wish to opt out of even more, read below.

https://protocol.unisdk.easebar.com/release/latest_v475.html#div2
i'll put a spoiler on this as it's a huge section I have copied and pasted from their terms and probably only people interested in opting out will be interested, i'll try to save others eyes. I can't seem to find anything akin to a collapsible, so this is the best I can do. I hope for everyones sake who has agreed to their EULA and logged into the game, that they are not abusing your information or doing anything shady with it. At the very least I hope this has raised awareness on GDPR + Data protection laws, your consumer rights, and what companies can and cannot do with your data. It's a very worthwhile modern discussion.

I'm going to go get some sleep and likely won't revisit this to post myself. I hope I have included the necessary information to be fair and representative to the other party even if I don't necessarily agree or trust them personally. You all are adults, you can make your own decisions regarding your privacy.

I really don't think this EULA has been proof read or double checked by actual lawyers. It's got a crazy amount of typos in it. Prizes for the person that spots the most. Comes across as a pretty unprofessional and rushed document.

"• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or"

That part though, lols. Almost sounds like an admission of guilt. I know it's not, but I won't lie I did do a double take when I read that section, lmao.

CHOICES AND INDIVIDUALS' RIGHTS

Your choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information

We give you choices regarding our use and disclosure of your Personal Information for marketing purposes. You may opt out from:

(1) Receiving marketing-related messages from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing-related messages from us on a going-forward basis, please follow the instructions in our messages to unsubscribe or contact us at [e-mail] to opt out.

(2) Receiving marketing-related push notifications from us. If you no longer want to receive marketing related push notifications from us on a going-forward basis, you may opt out by disabling push notifications for the relevant App on your device.

(3) Our sharing of your Personal Information with affiliates for their direct marketing purposes. If you would prefer that we discontinue sharing your Personal Information on a going-forward basis with our affiliates for their direct marketing purposes, you may opt out of this sharing by contacting us at [e-mail].

We will try to comply with your request(s) as soon as reasonably practicable. Please note that if you opt out of receiving marketing from us, we may still send you important administrative messages, from which you cannot opt out.

How you can exercise your rights

You have certain rights in relation to the Personal Information we hold about you. These rights may be limited, for example if fulfilling your request would reveal personal data about another person, where they would infringe the rights of a third party (including our rights) or if you ask us to erase information which we are required by law to keep or have compelling legitimate interests in keeping. Relevant exemptions are included in both the GDPR/UK GDPR and in relevant local implementing legislation.

(1) Access: You have the right to access Personal Information we hold about you and to certain information about the processing of that information. To exercise this right, please contact us at [e-mail] or contact the in-game customer service.

(2) Portability: You have the right to receive a copy of certain Personal Information we process about you. This comprises any Personal Information we process on the legal basis as described in the section "Collection and Processing Of Personal Information". You have the right to receive this information in a structured, commonly used and machine-readable format. You also have the right to request that we transfer that Personal Information to another party. If you wish for us to transfer such Personal Information to a third party, please ensure you detail that party in your request. Note that we can only do so where it is technically feasible.

(3) Correction: You have the right to rectify/correct any Personal Information about you that is inaccurate. To exercise this right, please contact us at [e-mail] or contact the in-game customer service.

(4) Erasure: You can delete your account or request the erasure of your Personal Information in certain circumstances. If you would like to make such an erasure request, please contact us at [e-mail] or contact the in-game customer service. We may need to retain Personal Information if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for use to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or freedom of expression).

(5) Restriction of Processing to Storage Only: You have a right to request us to stop processing the Personal Information we hold about you other than for storage purposes in certain circumstances. Please note, however, that if we stop processing the Personal Information, we may use it again if there are valid grounds under data protection laws for us to do so (e.g., for the defense of legal claims or for another's protection).

You may request us to step processing and just to store the Personal Information we hold about you where:

• you believe the Personal Information is not accurate for the period it takes for us to verify whether it is accurate;

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as the processing we are doing is unlawful but you want us to retain the Personal Information but just store it instead; or

• you wish to erase the Personal Information as it is no longer necessary for our purposes but you require it to be stored for the establishment, exercise or defense of legal claims.

(6) Objection: You have the right to object to our processing of Personal Information about you where we are pursuing our legitimate interests or those of a third party. You may send your request by contacting us at [e-mail] or contacting the in-game customer service.

(7) Right to Withdraw Your Consent: Where we reply on your consent to process your Personal Information, you have the right to withdraw this consent at any time. Please note that withdrawing this consent will not affect the lawfulness of how we processed your Personal Information before you withdraw it.

We will respond to your request consistent with applicable laws. In your request, please make clear what Personal Information you would like to have changed or whether you would like to have your Personal Information suppressed from our database. For your protection, we may only implement requests with respect to the Personal Information associated with the particular email address that you use to send us your request, and we may need to verify your identity before implementing your request. We will try to comply with your request as soon as reasonably practicable.

Please note that we may need to retain certain information for recordkeeping purposes and/or to complete any transactions that you began prior to requesting a change or deletion (e.g., when you make a purchase or enter a promotion, you may not be able to change or delete the Personal Information provided until after the completion of such purchase or promotion).

You may lodge a complaint with the protection authority for your country or region where you have your habitual residence or place of work or where an alleged infringement of applicable data protection law occurs. A list of EEA data protection authorities is available at https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/items/612080. You can file a complaint with the UK ICO at https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/data-protection-complaints/data-protection-complaints/.

[Harris]

How do I get out of it? Is simply uninstalling enough?

[Eightball]

Originally posted by Harris:

How do I get out of it? Is simply uninstalling enough?

Probably not, you normally have to contact companies regarding GDPR and ask them to delete any private information they hold on you. And no guarantees companies in China are required to do this, i'm not sure GDPR is applicable there, can't say either way on that one. The CCP make all chinese gaming companies share all information with them by law.

[Noodle]

Bro you have downloaded almost 500 games from steam. You are delusional if you think all that information of yours isn't already out there.

[Eightball]

Originally posted by bvghgb:

Bro you have downloaded almost 500 games from steam. You are delusional if you think all that information of yours isn't already out there.

Yeah, out of all 500 of those games not a single one of them wants my passwords, or my friends and families real names. That's just creepy AF.

[Noodle]

Originally posted by Eightball:

Originally posted by bvghgb:

Bro you have downloaded almost 500 games from steam. You are delusional if you think all that information of yours isn't already out there.

Yeah, out of all 500 of those games not a single one of them wants my passwords, or my friends and families real names.

ah yes because you have always read every eula before downloading and every eula update ever made. Ok buddy.

[AoD_lexandro]

Originally posted by Eightball:

Originally posted by bvghgb:

Bro you have downloaded almost 500 games from steam. You are delusional if you think all that information of yours isn't already out there.

Yeah, out of all 500 of those games not a single one of them wants my passwords, or my friends and families real names.

And neither does this game. Stop spreading false information trying to be a smart alek.

[Erook D Weeb]

Media like TikTok and Facebook and your phones already do that to you, you going to do something about it?

[HermitKermit]

Originally posted by bvghgb:

Originally posted by Eightball:

Yeah, out of all 500 of those games not a single one of them wants my passwords, or my friends and families real names.

ah yes because you have always read every eula before downloading and every eula update ever made. Ok buddy.

And you make dismissive comments instead of engaging the point at hand. Ok, pal.

[Harris]

Originally posted by Eightball:

Originally posted by Harris:

How do I get out of it? Is simply uninstalling enough?

Probably not, you normally have to contact companies regarding GDPR and ask them to delete any private information they hold on you.

I only started the thing once for 15 minutes. Do they already have all of my data and how can they continue to read everything after uninstallation?

[IvoryTemplar]

Originally posted by Eightball:

I know some of you won't care and there are probably paid shills who will come here and try and argue otherwise. But I hope you all realise how much of a dataminer this game is. When you accept the EULA you are agreeing to give them basically every piece of information they can datamine from you. Everything about you. Personal information, password info, Government ID, address, IP address, location and mailing address, billing, birthday, social media, and collection of your friends on social media, nicknames, real names, first and last name.

I'm not even exaggerating. They literally want all your friends real names too.

And you are literally signing away your passwords to an unknown chinese entity, who will do god knows what with them. Probably sell them or give them to government hacking groups.

Good old chinese dataminer. That's why this is free, the chinese government want to know everything about you. They want as many people to log into this game as possible so they can steal all of your private information because you didn't read the EULA and realise what you were doing.

Anyway I hope this reaches at least some of you before they decide this type of information shouldn't get out and they delete my post. It's in the EULA, go look.

It's 2024 and dude's just finding out that corrupt governments.

Money says he shops on Temu.

[Noodle]

Guy is fear-mongering about a normal EULA when he literally gives his information away for free.

Gordon Blair from lothian region of scottland. How terrible it would be for a game to collect data that you give away for free online already.

[Eightball]

Originally posted by bvghgb:

Guy is fear-mongering about a normal EULA when he literally gives his information away for free.

Gordon Blair from lothian region of scottland. How terrible it would be for a game to collect data that you give away for free online already.

My information. Not my friends and families. I have no legal entitlement to that information myself nor the legal ability to sell or give it to anyone else as it doesn't belong to me. GDPR rules are very clear on this. It's not my data, it's someone elses and I have no entitlement to it or rights to trade it without their express permission.

Good luck finding anything else about me online from that information which I readily provided you and is public information. I'm pretty careful :) There is literally nothing you can do with that. You won't even find me on faecesbook with that. It's of absolutely no value or use to anyone. Because it's fake, lmao.

I couldn't give a ♥♥♥♥ what they know about me anyway, but i'm not giving them my families info. Thats so creepy they even want this. And highly illegal to acquire it this way.

And it's not fear mongering, go read the EULA for yourself.

Believe it or not, not everybody is so lackadaisical with their information. I'm not. You might be.

[Om3ga-Z3ro]

Throw away your phone, cancel your ISP contract and go full Amish.

[Eightball]

They breach pretty much every single one of the "it's unlawful if" criteria, lmao.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/advice-for-small-organisations/whats-new/blogs/data-sharing-when-is-it-unlawful/

It's unlawful to share data when...

arrow pointing right ...you don't have a lawful basis.

This rule applies to all of the examples in this list. If you haven’t got a good reason (or a ‘lawful basis’) to share someone’s data, then you shouldn’t be sharing it. You can use our lawful basis checker to help you work this out.

For example:

Wendy is a supermarket director and she collects and stores information about her customers’ shopping habits through her supermarket’s loyalty card scheme. From this information, Wendy’s supermarket can see that Vernon buys cat food every week. It’s likely that Vernon has a cat, but Wendy wouldn’t have a good reason (a ‘lawful basis’) to share Vernon’s information with a local vet, who wants to market cat owners with his services. It’s also a bad idea because Vernon wouldn’t expect that to happen. He neither agreed to this nor knows about it and it wouldn’t be fair to him.

arrow pointing right ...the information is particularly ‘sensitive’ and you haven’t taken this into consideration.

For example, sharing certain information like someone’s sexual preference, ethnicity, medical condition or political views could lead to discrimination.

So you not only need to have a lawful basis, but you also need to take extra steps to keep sensitive data safe. But if you haven’t got a lawful basis then you shouldn’t share it, no matter what extra steps you take or measures you put in place.

arrow pointing right ...it’s not required.

For example:

An online retailer uses a delivery company to send out a product to one of their customers. As well as providing the name and address of the customer, the retailer also shares the customer’s payment details with the delivery company, because on their system it’s easier to share a full customer record than take extracts. The delivery company doesn’t need this information to do their job, so by doing this the online retailer is acting unlawfully.

arrow pointing right ...you’re sharing children’s data without a compelling reason.

Sharing data about anyone without a lawful basis is unlawful, but there are specific regulations to protect children online and their data needs greater protection. For example, it’s unlawful to sell on children’s personal data for commercial re-use. We’ve written specific guidance on how to handle children’s data here. Essentially, you mustn’t share data about children unless you’ve got a compelling reason to do so, taking account of the best interests of the child.

[discopanda]

so standard information every online game already collects. gotcha