What's the best dagger/shortsword in the game?

[Jacki]

The title says it all.

[Macabre]

there is a very good one you can get once you have gnome dust, its hidden in the garden in kyle's back yard. but once you can use it the best meelee weapon hands down is the katana

[PieFilling]

i found a really nice dagger in the Abortion Clinic section i believe? It was only out done by the katana.

[Jacki]

Originally posted by Macabre:

there is a very good one you can get once you have gnome dust, its hidden in the garden in kyle's back yard. but once you can use it the best meelee weapon hands down is the katana

Where is it located?

[Team Triss]

Originally posted by Craw:

Originally posted by Macabre:

there is a very good one you can get once you have gnome dust, its hidden in the garden in kyle's back yard. but once you can use it the best meelee weapon hands down is the katana

Where is it located?

If he's talking about the Nazi dagger (I think he is), once you find Randy in the records room of the clinic, you have to shrink yourself down and enter a tunnel. One of the enemies or bags in that tunnel has it.

EDIT: Whoops, somehow read the inner quote as the post above it. Leaving this in case someone wants to know where the dagger is.

[PieFilling]

yea, i was talking about the Hitler Youth dagger.

[Jacki]

I didn't find any good daggers in Kyle's backyard except for a level 5 knife.. :L

[mason]

Uncle Jimbo's Katana is the best , it worth 75$ but you need to be 14 level to equip it.

[Macabre]

yep enemies change with your level, but at end game legitimetly, you can deal over 14,000 damage a turn with the katana 1 shotting and none boss in the game. at higher lvls the game relies on the block mechanics alot, if you cannot proply block most atttack you will "your gonna have a bad time"

[Jacki]

Originally posted by AlternateMinds_MinosOfGaming:

Originally posted by Macabre:

there is a very good one you can get once you have gnome dust, its hidden in the garden in kyle's back yard. but once you can use it the best meelee weapon hands down is the katana

Originally posted by mason:

Uncle Jimbo's Katana is the best , it worth 75$ but you need to be 14 level to equip it.

The Katana is the best. I "cheated" to get the katana before I fought the gingers. Now I must say that if you cheat, the enemies have more health and do more damage. It is not impossible but if you are careless while "cheating" you will die more often. I am trying to find out the lvl formula for enemies. I "cheated" to get lvl 15 and the enemies had 8000 health and did 1000 damage. Your attacks can make quick work of them but you can be in trouble if you mess up.

But the Katana is 2 handed, I asked for shortswords and/or daggers.

[Macabre]

@craw the fact is at end game 1handers and daggers are inferior, however the dagger i was telling you about while low level has 2 major advantages, 1 it can attack 5 times a turn, great for killing armor/shields, 2 it has 2 patch slots, which a lot for great synergy and amities to be added to it, with the right buffs is can be amazing, i personally use the +5 bleed and +100 damage on it.

[Jacki]

Originally posted by Macabre:

@craw the fact is at end game 1handers and daggers are inferior, however the dagger i was telling you about while low level has 2 major advantages, 1 it can attack 5 times a turn, great for killing armor/shields, 2 it has 2 patch slots, which a lot for great synergy and amities to be added to it, with the right buffs is can be amazing, i personally use the +5 bleed and +100 damage on it.

Well that's annoying.

[Macabre]

Yes it is infact one of the main things the game needs is mroe options for gear imo.

[󠀡󠀡aynhse]

the best dagger is the Vibroblade http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236271688

[Macabre]

Originally posted by 1mirg:

the best dagger is the Vibroblade http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=236271688

lol yep forgot aobut that one

[Sabrina]

I don't particularly feel that 1h and daggers are "outdone" or anything, just the way they differ from 2h is inferior. What I mean by that is, daggers hit less, but are able to get off more attacks than a 2h. That is where they differ. Both however can attack once, that counts all possible attacks as one with a small damage reduction flatline, that is your power attack. At least I am 90% certain it works that way, some situations have led me to believe there are other factors at play, but it certainly doesn't feel like I am entirely wrong.

However late game most things you'll fight have obsurd amounts of armour. Now the way armour works I am not sure of 100%, but I think it's 1:1 for reduction. So 1000 armour = 1000 less damage on your attack.

How this ruins the diversity is say you hit 300 on a 250 armour target. Each BASIC ATTACK is going to do 50 damage. However say your weapon can hit 5 times, that means you'll do: 300(5) - 250(5) = 1500 - 1250 = 250 damage in the end of things.

Now say you chose to power attack, you'd do 1500 damage flat out as one attack, therefore taking ONE reduction, hitting 1250. Or at least close to it given there exist other factors I'm sure otherwise the only way to play would be "Always power attack" given it would do the same damage as basics which I doubt would be overlooked.

The basic idea is that late game, you will ONLY be using power attacks if you have a one hander unless you shred all their armour. Otherwise, have fun hitting 1's against bosses with 50k+ life.