Mod for Sonic/Shadow Levels Only?

[RockyVega]

I'd love to give this game a proper playthrough (as I surprisingly never have) cause I love Sonic.

Every time I revisit though, I always remember why I never did.

KNUCKLES.

His levels (along with Rouge) are annoying sometimes and just feel like filler.

Even Tails and Eggman have better levels.

Any mods out there to ONLY play Sonic and Shadow levels (or at least get rid of Knuckles and Rouge)?

[RockyVega]

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Lol what? Colors is a good game.

No it really isn't. It's full of bad writing

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

[NBOX21]

Messaggio originale di RockyV✫:

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

No it really isn't. It's full of bad writing

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

Games can hold their own with fun gameplay, but with a great story to compliment the fun gameplay, you have an unforgettable experience, and I can say this for pretty much any series or franchise if they try hard enough, which SEGA did in Adventure 2.

And this isn't just about Sonic either - video games are a form of art much like books and movies are, which are more than capable of storytelling in ways other forms of art simply can't achieve, that being immersing the player into a fictional world like they're the characters themselves and, if done right, can actually enhance the game experience in ways gameplay alone can't.

BTW I don't play Sonic Adventure 2 because it had a great story, I play it because it had fun, addictive gameplay that's a blast to replay; I did get all the A ranks and had a blast doing so - the story was just the icing on the already delicious cake.

[Dark Redshift]

Messaggio originale di Sixtyfivekills:

Messaggio originale di NBOX21:

On that note, who's doing the P-06 treatment for Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric or the 3DS games? Exactly.

You could pretty much just say that and call it a day. Seriously, what other game received a treatment from fans like 06?


Doesn't even have to be Sonic series, but literally any series in existence. Nobody went so far and above to remake a bad game and make it good, and if there are some cases I'm not aware of I'd love to see them.

Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness 1.5 by FreakRaider

https://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=212789

Operation Body Count: GZ Doom remake (bottom link is the original for comparison)

https://youtu.be/H7n4H3ZDcvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUIrCYc2uDU

Daikatana 1.3 Patch

https://youtu.be/P7RjuOA6aD8

Mario 64: Render 96Ex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MsEtnGSFm0&ab_channel=UnrealUnreal

Half Life Source: Fixed

https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-source-fixed

The Dungeon Siege engine remakes of Ultima 5 & 6.

The Akumajou Dracula 2: Seal of the Curse remake on Gamemaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJl_pzIIn14&ab_channel=PointMan5555PointMan5555

Every single fan translation of a Japanese game Sonic included, compared to the oftentimes horrible, censored English localisations. Non-Sonic examples include the Mother Trilogy (all three games), the Akumajou Dracula/Castlvania games up to and including Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight AKA SOTN on PS1 (the PSP English dub and the Dracula X: Rondo of Blood dub are OK), and the Mario & Zelda ones those franchises are in dire need of.

The Binding of Issac Antibirth compared to Afterbirth & Afterbirth plus. This one was so good, Edmund McMillian made it canon as the Repentance expansion.

Besides the translation mods, the very first of those in the list is the one I'm most intrigued by, especially as -like Sonic 2006- the original TR6 is fun enough as it is but it needs mods to be fully enjoyed and it's still lacking in several areas.

[Dark Redshift]

Messaggio originale di RockyV✫:

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

No it really isn't. It's full of bad writing

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

Since 1998 when they had the technology to tell one properly. As NBOX said, games and story go together: the former compliments the latter like icing on a cake or the beer drank with a fish & chip supper. It applies to far more than just Sonic too: People play Doom for the story now since Doom 4 because after Doom 3's misstep in that department, id took a page out of Marathon's book and made the story semi optional but having that optional story be book worthy in the best possible way.

The Mother games without story would just be someone bumming about town hitting things with baseball bats, Half Life would just be Doom 1 and Strife in full 3D with linear, earthbound levels and the Prince of Persia games without story would be like Prince of Persia 3D i.e boring Tomb Raider ripoffs best summed up as Super Mario Bros: Iran edition.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

Messaggio originale di Sixtyfivekills:

You could pretty much just say that and call it a day. Seriously, what other game received a treatment from fans like 06?


Doesn't even have to be Sonic series, but literally any series in existence. Nobody went so far and above to remake a bad game and make it good, and if there are some cases I'm not aware of I'd love to see them.

Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness 1.5 by FreakRaider

https://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=212789

Operation Body Count: GZ Doom remake (bottom link is the original for comparison)

https://youtu.be/H7n4H3ZDcvA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUIrCYc2uDU

Daikatana 1.3 Patch

https://youtu.be/P7RjuOA6aD8

Mario 64: Render 96Ex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MsEtnGSFm0&ab_channel=UnrealUnreal

Half Life Source: Fixed

https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-source-fixed

The Dungeon Siege engine remakes of Ultima 5 & 6.

The Akumajou Dracula 2: Seal of the Curse remake on Gamemaker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJl_pzIIn14&ab_channel=PointMan5555PointMan5555

Every single fan translation of a Japanese game Sonic included, compared to the oftentimes horrible, censored English localisations. Non-Sonic examples include the Mother Trilogy (all three games), the Akumajou Dracula/Castlvania games up to and including Dracula X: Nocturne in the Moonlight AKA SOTN on PS1 (the PSP English dub and the Dracula X: Rondo of Blood dub are OK), and the Mario & Zelda ones those franchises are in dire need of.

The Binding of Issac Antibirth compared to Afterbirth & Afterbirth plus. This one was so good, Edmund McMillian made it canon as the Repentance expansion.

Besides the translation mods, the very first of those in the list is the one I'm most intrigued by, especially as -like Sonic 2006- the original TR6 is fun enough as it is but it needs mods to be fully enjoyed and it's still lacking in several areas.

Well I'll be damned.

[Sonic2024]

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Excuse me what? Whitehead puts actual efforts into remaking the already existing levels so they're better than their original counterpart.

How dare you disrespecting his work?

You still didn't get it? No one is disrespecting his and his team's work. They made an amazing job. Its your attitude that is getting disrespected. Stop acting troll. We already discussed about this many times.

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

P-06 is basically like polishing dirt.

Do you see anyone remaking forces or rise of lyric? Or even Sonic 4 for that matter? 06 had potential to become a good game. But it was executed poorly.
Though the story can't be fixed, ateast the gameplay could be fixed for us to enjoy.

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Lol what? Colors is a good game.

In YOUR opinion, it is. Stop forcing your opinions on others. If you don't like Sonic in General, then don't come to sonic forums.

[Sonic2024]

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Lol what? Colors is a good game.

No it really isn't. It's full of bad writing especially in the English dub, too many 2D sections, a boring map screen between levels and those tedious red star rings.

An SA1 or World Adventure hub world with its own sub stages is the perfect fit for Colors given it's set on a theme park in space -a setting that incidentally is best executed in full 3D just like real space and real, more earthbound themeparks- and they still blew it.

The levels it does have are also way too short, starting and ending so fast the jet coasters in Egg Planet Park might as well be run by British Rail.

While I admit Colors was not the best or second coming of Jesus or anything, it was something many people desperately needed at that time. And for a Wii Game, many people were impressed by its visuals. Though the bad writing, 2D sections and all are still there, I found it to be charming. Some other things like it's originality, the variety, the visuals, the wisps (Which are good only here), eggman announcements, Super Sonic finally playable in normal stages etc.., made it very enjoyable for me. And at best, I think its still a decent and a fun casual game.

[Duckilous]

Messaggio originale di RockyV✫:

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

No it really isn't. It's full of bad writing

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

We don't, but I don't see anything wrong in having a competent and entertaining story to make the games more interesting that can keep the players invested.

[Sonic2024]

Messaggio originale di Duckilous:

Messaggio originale di RockyV✫:

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

We don't, but I don't see anything wrong in having a competent and entertaining story to make the games more interesting that can keep the players invested.

Yup. In my opinion, I think that first of all, gameplay should be done right and then, the story should be considered. Since even if the story turns out pretty bad, atleast the gameplay can make up for it. Which is the case for games like Generations. And good story just adds up to the overall experience, which is the case for games Unleashed and the adventure games.

[Ikagura]

Messaggio originale di RockyV✫:

Messaggio originale di Dark Redshift:

No it really isn't. It's full of bad writing

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

Apparently some fans are expecting JRPG-levels of story in a simple platformer.

[NBOX21]

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Apparently some fans are expecting JRPG-levels of story in a simple platformer.

I'm not. I'm just expecting one that compliments its gameplay well and carries it throughout. It doesn't need the complexity of a JRPG to do that, if games like Sonic Unleashed, Ratchet & Clank (PS2) and Rayman 2 are able to demonstrate just fine.

Although, an RPG 3D platformer hybrid sounds like a really cool idea... I'd be down for that.

[Sonic2024]

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Messaggio originale di RockyV✫:

Wait wait wait...HOLD UP...

Since when did ANYONE play Sonic for the story???

Apparently some fans are expecting JRPG-levels of story in a simple platformer.

No one expects that much. Generations did not have a phenomenal story or anything but it was still great because its gameplay was great. The story just adds to the overall experience, especially a good one. That's all.

[Dark Redshift]

Messaggio originale di NBOX21:

Messaggio originale di Ikagura:

Apparently some fans are expecting JRPG-levels of story in a simple platformer.

I'm not. I'm just expecting one that compliments its gameplay well and carries it throughout. It doesn't need the complexity of a JRPG to do that, if games like Sonic Unleashed, Ratchet & Clank (PS2) and Rayman 2 are able to demonstrate just fine.

Although, an RPG 3D platformer hybrid sounds like a really cool idea... I'd be down for that.

The closest examples of such a hybrid would by Dying Light, Mirror's Edge Catalyst and arguably Psychonauts.

[ketrub]

love how all these threads always turn into off-topic arguments

[Sonic2024]

Messaggio originale di ketrub:

love how all these threads always turn into off-topic arguments

Well this thread already got it's answer.