METAL GEAR SOLID 3: Snake Eater - Master Collection Version

METAL GEAR SOLID 3: Snake Eater - Master Collection Version

Anyaira 24 жовт. 2023 о 17:12
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Current Known Issues & Solutions
This post simply aims to gather all the issues that the community has found and will find, as well as solutions to these problems until Konami patches them up. This is for PC only, Deck users should create a different post.

Legend
  • Number between brackets (eg. [1]): These indicate there's a solution for the problem which is listed at the end of the post, simply look for the same number for the specific solution
  • [-A-] Issue can be solved by the user alone
  • [-B-] Issue can be solved by a community patch/mod
  • [SOLVED] Issue is solved from Konami's side and you might need to update your game
  • [FIXED*] Issue is considered solved since there have been no reports for a long time related to the listed issue

[Updated on Sept 29 2024]

Many of the issues below can be fully or partially solved with mods, here's a Link to the repository of mods in this discussion forum.

Issues

General Known Issues:
  • Games crash directly on some systems. (Still appens as of v2.0)
  • Games output to a black screen on some systems. [FIXED*]
  • Games output with black bars. [-A-][-B-][1][FIXED*]
  • No option to change screen resolutions. [-A-][-B-][2][SOLVED]
  • No option to change output mode (Full Screen, Windowed, Borderless Windowed). [-B-][2][SOLVED]
  • Forced windowed mode (ALT+ENTER) on monitors with higher refresh rates than 60Hz can cause games to run above 60FPS with gameplay speed tied to the FPS speed (120Hz will cause game to run at 2x speeds). [-A-][3][SOLVED]
  • Game runs at a higher speed than normal [-A-][3][FIXED*]
  • Game has audio synching issues. [-A-][3][FIXED*]
  • Language Packs are not available unless the player uses the SteamDB.
  • Keyboard keybinds can not be changed. [SOLVED]
  • Inconsistent controller input between the 3 games for Confirmation/Cancel (O and X, or A and B), MGS1 uses O/B to confirm and X/A to cancel, while MGS2 and MGS3 use the opposite. [FIXED*]
  • Games have stretching on monitors that are not 16:9. [-B-][2][FIXED*]
  • Games do not inhibit sleep mode on monitors (needs repro reports) [FIXED*]

MGS1:
  • Internal Resolution locked to 240p, further forcibly upscaled to 1080p using a simple bilinear upscaler. [-A-][4]
  • Steam Cloud Saves are not available. [SOLVED]
  • Input lag is higher than normal.
  • True analog mode is missing, analog stick is mapped to 8 directions only (emulates direction arrows).

MGS2:
  • Internal Resolution locked to 720p, further forcibly upscaled to 1080p. [-A-][-B-][2][SOLVED]
  • There is no way to exit the game unless the player goes back to the main menu by either dying or using a node.
  • Steam Cloud Saves are not available. [SOLVED]
  • Controller remapping gets reset every time the game is launched. [FIXED*]
  • Audio is too loud, no in-game sound controls. [-B-][5]
  • Audio is low quality and sounds distorted. [-B-][5]
  • Audio issues in some/all cutscenes (low quality, crackling, audio compression?).
  • Anisotropic Filtering is off/too low. [-A-][6]

MGS3:
  • Internal Resolution locked to 720p, further forcibly upscaled to 1080p. [-A-][-B-][2][SOLVED]
  • Steam Cloud Saves are not available. [SOLVED]
  • Controller remapping gets reset every time the game is launched. (some reports say it does not carry over to the game but does work in the launcher) [FIXED*]
  • Mouse has no RAW input, emulated through the right thumbstick only.
  • Mouse buttons do not work. [FIXED*]
  • Audio is too loud, no in-game sound controls. [-B-][5][SOLVED]
  • Audio is low quality and sounds distorted. [-B-][5]
  • Anisotropic Filtering is off/too low. [-A-][6]
  • Brightness, Saturation, and Gamma levels are different from the original versions, and the game does not offer any tools to correct this. [-A-][7]
  • Grass draw distance set too close to camera compared to original version.
  • When playing at 720p, a blue line artifact crosses the entire screen whenever a particle effect is on-screen. [FIXED*]
  • Controller inputs remain active even when the game is minimised/alt tabbed. [SOLVED]
  • Awkward use of TAB for opening the start menu causes the menu to open/close when ALT+TAB out or into the game. (needs repro reports) [FIXED*]
  • Introduced on patch 1.5 - Controllers are no longer detected by default, requiring players to go through steam's controller options to make them detectable. [-A-][SOLVED]


Solutions

Many of the solutions below can be found in this thread of this very same duscussion forum It also lists a plethora of other useful things that improve the game, so do give it a look for a more satisfying experience. This is the same link found above.

  1. Black bars solution Steam community post, now also a community patch.[github.com]
  2. Screen Resolution Workaround: This requires a Hex edit of your game files, or using a community patch that does the same thing , here's another option - This works for 3, but also technically for 2 as well, though it results in glitches for postprocess effects and the UI. A third option now, which also fixes the black bars issue.[github.com] This also adds borderless and windowed modes.
  3. Forced window mode, high speed gameplay, and audio desynch can be fixed by going to the control pannel for your graphics card and locking the maximum FPS for the games to 60, Konami added a workaround guide, you can follow this community guide. This is reported to not always work.
  4. MGS1 bilinear upscale fix or partial fix by some steam community members.
  5. Audio fix for low quality audio in MGS3 in Nexu Mods.[www.nexusmods.com]
  6. In order to fix the anisotropic filtering issue, you need to go into your Graphics card's control pannel and enforce it (to 8x or 16x, it has little cost).
  7. Gamma/Brightness/Saturation can be fixed by the user by changing the Brightness to -12 and Saturation to 115 (reported to work for AMD cards through the control pannel but likely can be done so for all other vendors)
  8. Link to the community guide on the fix to patch 1.5's issue with controller detection.


Credits

I don't take credit for any of these issues being identified nor their solutions and workarounds, this is just a collection for easy access. Most of these issues I have identified from posts in the metal gear solid reddit, as well as this discussion section on steam.
Any other issues that get identified, you can post below and I will add the little by little to the above post. If it gets too large, I might have to create a different post, or I will delete those issues that have been [SOLVED].
Автор останньої редакції: Anyaira; 28 верес. 2024 о 16:29
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Цитата допису Ty:
A dude on Reddit found a fix for sound issues in MGS3, which also makes the game run on Steam Deck:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/17g8enj/metal_gear_solid_steam_deck/

Basically you need to download xaudio2_9.dll (make sure it's the 64 bit version!) and put it in the main game directory where the game exe is

And enter WINDLLOVERRIDES=“xaudio2_9=n” %command% into the launch options. Doesn't work for me personally, but it is a workaround for whoever it works out for.
Автор останньої редакції: Aker; 25 жовт. 2023 о 14:53
Updated the list with a few other issues I have seen several people report, plus added a link to a fix to the MGS1's bilinear filtering problem (though it's more of a partial fix tbh).

I haven't added the dll fix for the steam deck issues as this post does not cover the steam deck, as that's a whole other beast, also, it doesn't seem the dll fix helps to actually fix the sound itself on PC. Then again, I haven't seen that many reports on it, and I am not going to try it for now, too busy to play.
For me the audio issue kills any chance of me ever spending a cent on this release. I can deal with 720p for an old game. I can deal with black bars on screen. I can deal with the washed out colors. I can deal with a 30 fps and 60 fps lock.

But audio quality that is screwed up and worse than the 2011 release?

NO. Just no. That is not acceptable.
Автор останньої редакції: El Fuerte; 26 жовт. 2023 о 17:19
All issues that I've listed on my review:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/WhiteExperience/recommended/2131650/

- The game is forced at 720p, even though Konami advertised it would run at 1080p! This is insane for any modern release;
- Unstable framerates, both in pre-rendered FMVs and actual gameplay;
- This release is basically an untouched port of the HD Edition, it feels as you're literally playing the PS3/XBOX 360 version;
- Music and some audio are compressed in comparison to the HD Edition;
- No settings for modern platforms, you can't change graphics, anti-aliasing, controls or even switch between windowed and fullscreen;
- Mouse sensitivity is not good and can't be changed, but you can control the camera with IJKL instead;
- Key mappings are weird and can't be remapped;
- It doesn't even support Cloud Save, a very basic feature. The save file is inside the game folder, if you uninstall without backing it up, your save is gone;
- The Start button is set to the Tab key on the keyboard, you can't change or disable this, so everytime you use Alt+Tab, it will open/close the game's menu;
- Your gamepad inputs are all active when the game window is minimized;
- The instruction manual available in the HD Edition was removed, you can only see a worse version of it online in a Konami webpage;
- When you change your button layout on the launcher, it only changes for you to use on the launcher to read the books, on the game it remains as the default XBOX button layout and can't be changed;
- It doesn't work on Steam Deck;
- There's no search option for the Master Book and Screenplay Book, like a Ctrl+F functionality;
- The download feature of the launcher to download the Japanese version doesn't work, you have to use SteamDB to get it;
- There's a bug in which Snake's 3D model flickers in a couple of cutscenes;
- It seems some voice overs are out of lip sync.
Цитата допису Aker:
Цитата допису Ty:
A dude on Reddit found a fix for sound issues in MGS3, which also makes the game run on Steam Deck:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/17g8enj/metal_gear_solid_steam_deck/

Basically you need to download xaudio2_9.dll (make sure it's the 64 bit version!) and put it in the main game directory where the game exe is

And enter WINDLLOVERRIDES=“xaudio2_9=n” %command% into the launch options. Doesn't work for me personally, but it is a workaround for whoever it works out for.
Can you confirm this helps fix or outright fixes the audio issues, by the way? I don't quite have the time to test it right now myself, though one easy way to tell should be the main theme, snake eater, since it's pretty... crispy, currently.
By the way you can add the broken gamma levels to that list of issues as well:

Original:
https://i.imgur.com/r0TDVZv.png

PC Collection:
https://i.imgur.com/DwObRtr.png


EDIT: For AMD users, go to GPU panel > Display. Set Brightness to -12 and Saturation to 115. This will match the correct color scheme from the original version.
Автор останньої редакції: El Fuerte; 26 жовт. 2023 о 18:18
Цитата допису Draconic Creature:
Цитата допису Aker:

And enter WINDLLOVERRIDES=“xaudio2_9=n” %command% into the launch options. Doesn't work for me personally, but it is a workaround for whoever it works out for.
Can you confirm this helps fix or outright fixes the audio issues, by the way? I don't quite have the time to test it right now myself, though one easy way to tell should be the main theme, snake eater, since it's pretty... crispy, currently.

I couldn't. Sorry. If Konami doesn't end up fixing these games, modders will. Konami deserves ♥♥♥♥ if they don't fix it, but I've seen them attempt to update MGS1 today multiple times. Seems like there were issues, because all that happened was they installed the DLC I didn't have, uninstalled it in another update, then repeated these two updates again and that was it. I installed the missing DLC on my own terms so it wouldn't be able to happen again for me, although having more dialogue language options isn't such a bad idea the more I think about it.
Автор останньої редакції: Aker; 26 жовт. 2023 о 17:40
Цитата допису 2Pipoco6:
By the way you can add the broken gamma levels to that list of issues as well:

Original:
https://i.imgur.com/r0TDVZv.png

PC Collection:
https://i.imgur.com/DwObRtr.png


EDIT: For AMD users, go to GPU panel > Display. Set Brightness to -12 and Saturation to 115. This will match the correct color scheme from the original version.

Wow. Good luck finding all the stuff fans. I feel for you and salute you. I am just very angry and sadge.
Цитата допису Tracido:
Цитата допису 2Pipoco6:
By the way you can add the broken gamma levels to that list of issues as well:

Original:
https://i.imgur.com/r0TDVZv.png

PC Collection:
https://i.imgur.com/DwObRtr.png


EDIT: For AMD users, go to GPU panel > Display. Set Brightness to -12 and Saturation to 115. This will match the correct color scheme from the original version.

Wow. Good luck finding all the stuff fans. I feel for you and salute you. I am just very angry and sadge.
am disappointed too, Metal Gear doesn't deserve this.
Another issue with MGS1 and MGS3 (I have not checked MGS2 yet) is that the game does not inhibit monitor sleep. So when long cutscenes play you need to interact with your mouse every few minutes.
I will update the list later today, but yeah, quite a few other things to add it seems...
There's a potential fix for the messed up audio mix in MGS3: https://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidmastercollection/mods/7

Still needs to be thoroughly tested but maybe a glimmer of hope. :)
Цитата допису Mr. Boy:
There's a potential fix for the messed up audio mix in MGS3: https://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearsolidmastercollection/mods/7

Still needs to be thoroughly tested but maybe a glimmer of hope. :)

About to test it out as we speak. I'll report back with the results.
Does nothing on my end, unfortunately.
Цитата допису Aker:
Does nothing on my end, unfortunately.

That is unfortunate. I still have to try it myself. We'll see if it does anything on my end. :/
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