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2. to the person saying origins' equivalent of hell's retriever is the punch, just no lol. hell's redeemer (upgraded) is 1 hit kill for infinite rounds technically. only way you can get infinite damage from punch is by glitching..
3. Look up any experienced highrounder, or grief player, or even first room player. basically anyone who would be in the top end of the community, they would never say origins is the best map. majority of the community calls it that because it is the easiest map in bo2 and pretty much anyone can camp to 100+ with good luck with max ammo). some people even do double staff glitches in this easy map cuz that's how bad they are. don't give in to the hype. play every map and decide yourself which is the best for you to enjoy.
@CamFranks- why so triggered? what he said is true, im a pc gamer but I have to admit it is the worst of the platforms in bo2 if you count the base game (i.e. without the third party offline mods). Zenith is right to say that. Round 37 was not the point. the point was that the dc's are so random. Also, which map is better, that's his personal opinion. He is not stating a fact, he is merely stating his own thoughts. Chill dude.
I meant you essentially have to do the same thing for hell's retriever to get the one-inch punch, and it doesn't one hit (only hell's redeemer does that, which is upgraded and requires a lot more effort to get) and hell's retriever can one-hit to round 20, same as one-inch punch.
Nope, that thing is awesome and well worth the upgrade