Difficulty Slider

[Paladin Stallion]

I know the new landscape difficulty system is not an actual "slider". Has anybody heard if there are actual plans to implement this system into classic instances?

[Running-Target]

I heard it is coming soon.

[Paladin Stallion]

Originally posted by Running-Target:

I heard it is coming soon.

I'm in favor of a level squish to fifty, get rid of the scaling system, and just use the slider.

[Harvain]

Originally posted by dantrag28:

Originally posted by Running-Target:

I heard it is coming soon.

I'm in favor of a level squish to fifty, get rid of the scaling system, and just use the slider.

Not going to happen. The SSG LOTRO Team have discussed this. The amount of Work is a lot and it would make LOTRO a totally different game.

Two factors they don't discuss is that they would need to get Permission to do such work from all Parties involved with LOTRO. Then even if they had Approval, they'd have to stop making any New Content for what would likely be Multiple Years as they go through & adjust everything in LOTRO to a New Max Level with a Level Squish.

It's beyond their resources, it's super highly unlikely to ever get approved and it would put LOTRO into a Maintenance Mode for Years while a Level Squish was being worked on. That is an overall recipe for that it will never to occur.

[Paladin Stallion]

Originally posted by Harvain:

Originally posted by dantrag28:

I'm in favor of a level squish to fifty, get rid of the scaling system, and just use the slider.

Not going to happen. The SSG LOTRO Team have discussed this. The amount of Work is a lot and it would make LOTRO a totally different game.

Two factors they don't discuss is that they would need to get Permission to do such work from all Parties involved with LOTRO. Then even if they had Approval, they'd have to stop making any New Content for what would likely be Multiple Years as they go through & adjust everything in LOTRO to a New Max Level with a Level Squish.

It's beyond their resources, it's super highly unlikely to ever get approved and it would put LOTRO into a Maintenance Mode for Years while a Level Squish was being worked on. That is an overall recipe for that it will never to occur.

I'm sure having 1000+ (alleged) people showing up to EoA ain't doing SSG any favors. That's 1000+ people with the initiative to jump ship to a classic private server! It's time for SSG to throw this P2W turd back in the sewer, and go back to Lotro's roots.

[Elitewrecker PT]

But a level squish is neither a classic server nor any different of p2w (whatver you're winning here anyway)

[Paladin Stallion]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

But a level squish is neither a classic server nor any different of p2w (whatver you're winning here anyway)

Nothing will be perfect in regards to having a classic server. To sum up a "classic server" today would involve premium gear through group content, and bringing back a player based economy where mobs yield a few coppers here and there so our professions are useful again. P2W is advancing in any way that involves real life money. Most people who utilize that disgraceful Lotro Store, are always quick to defend it.

[Harvain]

Originally posted by dantrag28:

Originally posted by Harvain:

Not going to happen. The SSG LOTRO Team have discussed this. The amount of Work is a lot and it would make LOTRO a totally different game.

Two factors they don't discuss is that they would need to get Permission to do such work from all Parties involved with LOTRO. Then even if they had Approval, they'd have to stop making any New Content for what would likely be Multiple Years as they go through & adjust everything in LOTRO to a New Max Level with a Level Squish.

It's beyond their resources, it's super highly unlikely to ever get approved and it would put LOTRO into a Maintenance Mode for Years while a Level Squish was being worked on. That is an overall recipe for that it will never to occur.

I'm sure having 1000+ (alleged) people showing up to EoA ain't doing SSG any favors. That's 1000+ people with the initiative to jump ship to a classic private server! It's time for SSG to throw this P2W turd back in the sewer, and go back to Lotro's roots.

They've not been worried in the slightest.

Also a big reason why people bring it up about the LOTRO Store is: What do you "win" in the Lord of the Rings Online and how is "Pay to Win" a factor?

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by dantrag28:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

But a level squish is neither a classic server nor any different of p2w (whatver you're winning here anyway)

Nothing will be perfect in regards to having a classic server. To sum up a "classic server" today would involve premium gear through group content, and bringing back a player based economy where mobs yield a few coppers here and there so our professions are useful again. P2W is advancing in any way that involves real life money. Most people who utilize that disgraceful Lotro Store, are always quick to defend it.

Define "advancing" here, because I'd wager more people spend points to SLOW DOWN advancing than otherwise.

[Paladin Stallion]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by dantrag28:

Nothing will be perfect in regards to having a classic server. To sum up a "classic server" today would involve premium gear through group content, and bringing back a player based economy where mobs yield a few coppers here and there so our professions are useful again. P2W is advancing in any way that involves real life money. Most people who utilize that disgraceful Lotro Store, are always quick to defend it.

Define "advancing" here, because I'd wager more people spend points to SLOW DOWN advancing than otherwise.

Isn't there some kind of valar that you can buy in the store to bring you to max level?

[Elitewrecker PT]

Not to max level, but to many of several old level caps (including the last one 130), but what's the point of that?
You're just skipping up to 90% of the game, being left with a high level class that you didn't properly learn how to use just so you can do the latest endgame area and start raiding sooner?

[Harvain]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Not to max level, but to many of several old level caps (including the last one 130), but what's the point of that?
You're just skipping up to 90% of the game, being left with a high level class that you didn't properly learn how to use just so you can do the latest endgame area and start raiding sooner?

And to add onto this a Valared Character still has to go through the same process as any Non-Valared Character to get to Max Level, to get the best Items, to do Group Content, to then get better Items and repeating the process over & over.

Valar Level Boosts are definitely not a Pay to Win Item.

[Ellye]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by dantrag28:

Nothing will be perfect in regards to having a classic server. To sum up a "classic server" today would involve premium gear through group content, and bringing back a player based economy where mobs yield a few coppers here and there so our professions are useful again. P2W is advancing in any way that involves real life money. Most people who utilize that disgraceful Lotro Store, are always quick to defend it.

Define "advancing" here, because I'd wager more people spend points to SLOW DOWN advancing than otherwise.

Exactly. There are two type of things I purchassed in the LOTRO store so far:

Quest packs and expansion packs -> those are content, perfectly fair to be sold for real money, just like any game sells expansions.
A cheap item that blocks exp gain so that I can enjoy that content for longer.

I really don't understand the whole "p2w" argument in games like this one.