Solo and FTP, where to go after Evendim

[cthulhuspawn82]

First let me say that I am purely a solo player, and also purely free to play. I wont be budging on those two issues. I want to know what quest pack I should buy after completing Evendim.

Angmar: This looks best , but I heard this is place has a lot of fellowship stuff, and that even in soloable areas is fustratingly difficult to navigate.

Forochel: Seems more laid back then Angmar, a huge plus, but it looks like the level range is shorter (i.e. 44-50 rather than 40-50). Also, far less TP to get back than Angmar, but how much of that Angmar TP requires grouping.

Misty Mountains: I know nothing about this.

My concerns are ability to solo, and also cost. I would like to spend as few TP as possible. I am concerned with how "cheap" each zone is, but also in how much TP I can easy get back from the zone.

[PorkChopExpress]

not sure which ones you have done yet so i will make a few suggestions - trollshaws, misty mountains, angmar, then forochel - angmar can be tuff solo in some places. also you have to do the epic quest in angmar to get past the dread line to the rest of the zone. mistys and forchele are easier solo. trollshaws first if you have not done it yet. then mistys. i useally start with angmar next then leave early and go to forochel till 50

[oreyos]

What I did was get both Misty Mountains and Angmar. I would quest in Angmar until I hit the group quests, then go to Misty Mountains for a while to level up, then back to Angmar, etc.

This was before the Misty Mountains revamp, so I don't know if MM alone will do these days.
Forochel has A LOT of travelling, and as F2P there's no fast travel...

As for TP... Go grind rep items (Bree rep is easy, just hang around the Barrow Downs for a while), and give the rep items to a 'throwaway' toon, getting him up to kindred.
Delete the toon, rinse, repeat.
It's about the fastest way to gain TP, although you could also run an elf or dwarf to do all the Ered Luin deeds for TP a few times.

[edorward]

I would suggest you follow the storyline and head to the Misty Mountains next. Forochel is a bit more solo-friendly, but I find it to be rather tiresome and the deeds can be painful to complete. It's also rather resource-scarce, especially if you are a woodworker. Absolutely no wood nodes in the whole region. Angmar has more deeds and therefore more TP available, but a lot of them are tied up in the instances, most of which cannot be done alone. The slayer deeds are also really painful - 450 total kills on most monsters to complete the deeds. The Misty Mountains, on the other hand, just had an update to make it a bit more solo friendly (especially Goblin Town). There aren't as many TP available, but they are easier to get. The region is also resource-rich, which is a nice perk.

[cthulhuspawn82]

Will doing the Misty Mountains take me up to 50? I keep seeing conflicting information on this. Some things say levels 40-45, other places mentions quests going up to 50. I would like to spend as few TP as possible, and I would not want to have to buy another zone to get to 50.

[FaeForSin]

Hi, just giving my opinion here but I suggest you move strait to Eregion.
It 's a bit tricky since quest level is higher than the regions you talked about, but it will lead you strait to the door of Moria, and the introduction of Legendary weapons.
This zone also has some nice instances you can do from time to time when bored from soloing (that might happen at some point). Lots of deeds and thus TP to grind through all the deeds proposed in landscape but also instances (scalable so that means you can grind them till lvl 100). No matter what you do, always be on the lookout for special sales on the store (they start every friday and change each week) you might have good deals on quest packs. Have fun ! :)

[oreyos]

The levels between the end of Evendim and the start of Moria are hard to do in just one area.
If you buy a quest pack, you can use it for all you other toons as well, so it's not wasted TP (Unless you really hate the area :-))
Regaining TP by doing the zone's deeds is nice, but takes longer and longer the higher the area's level is. In the time it takes to get all TP from Misty Mountains, you can run a few throw away toons through Ered Luin's deeds (and some of the Shire's, and some of the Bree ones), bagging you more TP in less time.

IIRC I left the Misty Mountains around L48 (before the revamp), in combination with Angmar to level from the low 40s (when I finished Evendim).

You can always run instances to level, but that will get boring pretty fast if you only have the free ones

[Anonimatus]

I did Angmar. Angmar has lots of fellowship quests, but there's a good amount of Solo quests too. Maybe you can do Misty Mountains and Forochel, if you don't want to try Angmar (and have those QPs).

P.S. When you buy the Quad pack of expansions, you will get some TP that you can use to buy some QPs.

[Victim of the Demiurge]

after evendim it would probably be best to go with angmar, if you play some op class like lore master or minstrel it won't be a problem leveling there; angmar gives you some class stuff, epic story goes there and level range is surprisingly large;

if you are a grinder misty mountains(levels 40 to 50 counting goblin town and helegrod) are a heavy recommendation because of the easy goblin-town rep, but if you are vip or if you pay for content it isn't something that good- level range is poor and travel distances are huge

I would recommend trollshaws, though they may seem lacky at first north shaws are really densely filled with mobs of all kinds, rivendell is a very useful thing to have(it is a main questing hub before moria), but you have already passed early levels of the shaws so you should think about is it worth getting that region - I'd say it is even after evendim because tal bruinen missions are one of the best in that part of middle earth + rivendell as I said before, but it's your call + it's really cheap

when you get near lvl 50 eregion is a must - it's an astonishingly beautiful region with a fair amount of missions, but that's already some time ahead

for forochel I can't tell cause I'm not totally familliar with that area, but one thing I can tell you if you decide for forochel - beware because evendim finishes about 3 or 5 levels before forochel starts, so you'll have to do a fair amount of skirmishes; be ready to walk some decent kilometrage + beware of the insta-killer frozen sea

glhf

[oreyos]

Publicado originalmente por Sean O'Farrell:

after evendim it would probably be best to go with angmar, if you play some op class like lore master or minstrel it won't be a problem leveling there; angmar gives you some class stuff, epic story goes there and level range is surprisingly large;

if you are a grinder misty mountains(levels 40 to 50 counting goblin town and helegrod) are a heavy recommendation because of the easy goblin-town rep, but if you are vip or if you pay for content it isn't something that good- level range is poor and travel distances are huge

I would recommend trollshaws, though they may seem lacky at first north shaws are really densely filled with mobs of all kinds, rivendell is a very useful thing to have(it is a main questing hub before moria), but you have already passed early levels of the shaws so you should think about is it worth getting that region - I'd say it is even after evendim because tal bruinen missions are one of the best in that part of middle earth + rivendell as I said before, but it's your call + it's really cheap

when you get near lvl 50 eregion is a must - it's an astonishingly beautiful region with a fair amount of missions, but that's already some time ahead

for forochel I can't tell cause I'm not totally familliar with that area, but one thing I can tell you if you decide for forochel - beware because evendim finishes about 3 or 5 levels before forochel starts, so you'll have to do a fair amount of skirmishes; be ready to walk some decent kilometrage + beware of the insta-killer frozen sea

glhf

My L41 Lore Master could do the first quest hub in Forochel (L44/45 quests) without a problem, but blue line LM are quite overpowered.
You're right about the Trollshaws; since the revamp it's a nice place to quest. However, the OP did go to Evendim, and Trollshaws is in the same level range, so it's not a good place to go after Evendim.

I need to check the revamped Misty Mountains before I can comment on using that as single place to level, otherwise you would still want Angmar (You'll spend enough time there anyway when you follow the epic quest line, so why not get the zone to be able to do the deeds?)

[Victim of the Demiurge]

Publicado originalmente por cthulhuspawn82:

Will doing the Misty Mountains take me up to 50? I keep seeing conflicting information on this. Some things say levels 40-45, other places mentions quests going up to 50. I would like to spend as few TP as possible, and I would not want to have to buy another zone to get to 50.

one more thing:
misty mountains main missions are to lvl 45, but together with goblin town missions, class missions and epic quests you should be able to get to lvl 48 where it's time to go in eregion, forget about the low level regions and get moria by any means possible (get expansion - few more grind chars are worth it it's an awesome deal- it's only 1000tp more expensive and gives you load of useful things)

[oreyos]

Publicado originalmente por Sean O'Farrell:

Publicado originalmente por cthulhuspawn82:

Will doing the Misty Mountains take me up to 50? I keep seeing conflicting information on this. Some things say levels 40-45, other places mentions quests going up to 50. I would like to spend as few TP as possible, and I would not want to have to buy another zone to get to 50.

one more thing:
misty mountains main missions are to lvl 45, but together with goblin town missions, class missions and epic quests you should be able to get to lvl 48 where it's time to go in eregion, forget about the low level regions and get moria by any means possible (get expansion - few more grind chars are worth it it's an awesome deal- it's only 1000tp more expensive and gives you load of useful things)

That's true; you will get the Rune keeper and Warden class, 2 extra character slots, and a skirmish soldier level increase, but only for the full expansion, not the quest pack.

[76561198077869228]

This is a tough question -- based mostly on your own preferences and play style.
As a Founder and Lifetimer I have no isues with "which way to go" but let me throw out a few comments based on my own experiences.
1- I've never (almost never) done ANY of the fellowship quests in Angmar - i.e. Carn Dum, and the Rift basically. I was a very infrequent player back in those days when the level cap was 50.
And all of the Alts I've run through the area since then, I've just skipped those quests.
You can now solo the entire Epic Quest line, which you could not do in years previous.

2- Same with Fornost in North Downs. Never was solo friendly content. And Helgarod has always been Raid content.

3- Same is true of Evendim, Anuminus is strictly "higher level" content, that I have always ignored unless I get on a completionist kick for my toon.

4- I normally flow from Evendim up to the first settlement in Forochel. Then swing over to the LoneLands and Trollshaws. Typicaly over level for the LoneLands, but then I skip the "Red Maid/ Ivar" section (never remember the name). And then head for Evendim.
Since the recent (Update 13) revision to the Trollshaws and Misty Mountians, getting rep with the Elves of Rivendell has been dramatically altered (easier).

5- I do tend to deed grind as I'm working through an area simply because the deeds are needed to boost one's various "traits".

6- The "levels" listed on various sites (Turbine and {ENLACE ELIMINADO}LOTRO-Wiki.com) are simply Turbine's "tuning" of the various creatures encountered in the quests and on the landscape. Those levels have no impact on the level your toon may reach in that area -- especially if you deed-grind and/or use any of the varioius exp accelerators available. When you deed-grind, you can quickly exceed that level estimate.

7- With Update 13 or 14, I forget which one, Turbine removed the level-cap on "tasks" -- at one time you had to be within + or - 5 levels of the suggested level for that Task Board (i.e. the level indicated on the tasks). However, now you can turn in "vendor junk" to a Task Board at any level, which also accellerates your leveling.

8- important -- don't consider buying Quest Packs for Moria, Mirkwood, Isengard or Rohan -- buy the Expansion, you get all of the quests plus any instances and skirmishes with the expansion. Similarly, the "All Quest Packs" bundle is just that, quest -packs only, no instances, Expansion access, or Skirmishes.

The only rational thing to do today is to buy the Quad-pack directly from Turbine - the LOTRO Market {ENLACE ELIMINADO}(Store.lotro.com) which gets you access to Moria, Mirkwood, Rise of Isengard and Riders of Rohan. Helm's deep is still an additional expansion purchase.

[Javingr]

MM is a horrible zone to level in. Don't bother with it.

Angmar is easy enough to solo, but you will miss out on a lot of group content.

Forochel is a fun little region, but its deeds can be a pain and traveling between towns can be frustrating. On the bright side, you might just get that book done.

If you plan on staying pure solo, then you will be missing out on a lot of the fun group content, dungeons, raids, elite areas, that can really spice up your experience. There's no problem with soloing regions, but refusing to try group content at all seems a bit narrow-minded.
~Migitus

[oreyos]

Publicado originalmente por Jeeves:

MM is a horrible zone to level in. Don't bother with it.

Angmar is easy enough to solo, but you will miss out on a lot of group content.

Forochel is a fun little region, but its deeds can be a pain and traveling between towns can be frustrating. On the bright side, you might just get that book done.

If you plan on staying pure solo, then you will be missing out on a lot of the fun group content, dungeons, raids, elite areas, that can really spice up your experience. There's no problem with soloing regions, but refusing to try group content at all seems a bit narrow-minded.
~Migitus

It's not always easy (or even possible) to find other players to group with you. You might find a nice kin that also helps with group content, but chances are you find a nice kin with nobody in your level range, so no help with group content.
Or you're in a different time zone, or you're on a quiet server.

Grouping can be fun, but soloing can be fun as well, and you don't have to plan when/where you want to go when you're alone :-)

[Cleatus]

Lots of good advice above. Misty Mountains and Trollshaws were recently revamped. They're a lot easier to quest in now. I would recommend those over Angmar for sure. Forochel can be fun too. Also, if you're a level or two short, you could always skirmish a bit to gain more XP without purchasing more content. :)