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Which is something 2 Remake already toned down by clearly having James be hit with the same insta-kill and just walk it off. Also those dodging invincibility frames like its some action game...........uggggghhhhh
you should care about the woke/dei b s, it is this that ruin the art we used to love.
just let this game flop, say no to any censorship, they take away sex in video games since last couple years , who knows what else will they take away next time, are they gonna ban chess too because it's violent?
I do understand your enthusiasm, but if they wish to stay neutral, I absolutely support it all the same, all I want is the facts, for the game here and if they don't want to touch on the social culture wars and buzzwords, I cannot blame them, hence why I gave them a lot of points..
just know that it is these agendas ruin SH2 remake and will ruin more to come
why would they stop making s *** if they can get away with it
They've been trying to get away with it for a long time, though. Before the consultation firms, my government took games to court to try to ban them (See Postal/Postal 2, example), now they can remove content before it even hits shelves, erasing it from future generations, heck have you seen the anger because just one game was fighting to stay UNCUT.. https://x.com/Dreamboum/status/1827113963299000602
especially game like SH2, no reason to support this crap when you can just watch content creator play and won't miss out anything
"I absolutely don’t have any objection to modifying an original essence to fit the modern era which we live in today.” - Silent Hill creator Keiichiro Toyama, on the concept of remakes.
"I believe from the bottom of my heart that they're making something incredible." - Masahiro Ito, original concept artist, on Bloober Team's work on the SH2 remake.
"As for Angela, in order to realistically express the character, we did not create a human face from scratch by hand, but instead captured the actor's face to achieve the realism, so the actual actor's face is reflected." - Motoi Okamoto, producer SH2 remake, on Angela's appearance being actor-based rather than arbitrary or design-based.
"... there are a few creatures that reflect what would have been good if they had been done in the original story of a certain character. I think that you will be able to clearly see the differences from the original when you play, but I hope that you will also look forward to thinking about these differences." - Masahiro Ito, approvingly describing how character considerations played into certain enemy rearrangement decisions in the remake.
Ito has also spoken about the differences between initial authorial intent, and interpretive power by the recipients of a work of art, and given these Pyramid Head scenes as an example of that:
"As I said many times before, I never deny fans have their own opinions. But they spread their headcanons as 'the official' and push the headcanons on others or me. If I correct the headcanon abt cutscenes (etc) that I did, they insult me and attack me. So I posted that. As to the cutscene that they call 'r*pe' (lol), this was my intention or aim at that time: The scene of Pyramid Head abusing 2 mannequins. That doesn't mean r*pe. I wanted to depict that Pyramid Head is trying to remove the visions from James' mind. Those mean L-Figure, BHNurse, etc. PH trys to make him face [up] to the fact by that. This means his conflict in his mind. He still afraid to face [up] to it at that time so he shoots a gun in the closet. I designed/modeled/built all of creatures & all of animations of them from SH2, also thought of all of the plans of PH's cut scenes & built them by myself. But I've never said that the scene PH abusing 2 mannequins means 'r*pe.' I can understand his acting looks like sexual tho. It's really OK that we have different opinions and its interpretation depends on the person. However it doesn't make sense to me that 'r*pe' or 'sexual frustration' are spread just like a canon."
- Masahiro Ito in August 2024 on Twitter referring back to his responses to a popular fan interpretation of the initial Pyramid Head scene in 2020.
In 2021 he similarly elaborated on the other later Pyramid Head scene in contrast to the first that people have similar interpretations of:
"I purposely built the motions of the 2 creatures to look like sexual. But, to be accurate, it's not 'sexual.' As the painting in the SH historical society says, the original Pyramid Head was the executioner in the town before. And then, the PH in SH2 is just illusion in the bottom of James' heart. He has a mental conflict about what he did. The PH and other creatures mean it. Also the creatures reflect Mary in the sick bed. James' PH tries to remove his delusions (other creatures) & James keeps hoping to punish himself for the issue. This ends when he faces the truth. I mean when he sees the punisher in the apartment, he doesn't face to it yet."
Now of course, those who want to insist the game is being "censored" (though there's no sign these scenes aren't present anyway) are going to continue arguing things like Ito is no longer "authentic" or that he's been "corrupted" so his own words don't carry any authoritative weight anymore. Because invalidating the original creator(s)' words is necessary to perpetuate the narrative of "censorship." Because that narrative is clearly not compatible with the expressed positions, attitudes, or words of the creator(s.)
The clearest takeaway from these quotes for me just continues to be that the original creator(s) don't have any problems with interpretation or reimagining. And that they respect everyone's interpretations of their work, so long as they aren't asserted authoritatively as fact rather than just that: interpretations.
The symbolism in these games has always been highly interpretable, and that's one of their strengths. That interpretability is also why some of us are fine with a remake that changes certain visual or other elements (though, much to my surprise, it's actually hewing a lot closer to the original scenario writing than I expected; so much so that we can do literal side by side comparisons of scenes, so I feel the idea that this is some massive, unrecognizable departure from the original has been incredibly hyperbolized anyway, but I digress) because we understand and accept that in an audiovisual medium, there are many possible valid ways of conveying or expressing the same core concepts or ideas.
The fact that people have differing interpretations of the original just underscores that interpretive and symbolic plasticity, and is why some of us aren't freaking out or crying censorship or adhering to some belief in a coercive effort to force change into the game. Because we understand that there's more than one singular way to convey artistic concepts. And that much of the effect of that conveyance is subjective to the individuals receiving it anyway.
But the quotes are what they are, and people have to resort to saying they are either lying or "betraying their past selves' artistic authenticity" or that "Ito was only the designer, not the writer" (even though they all clearly worked closely with one another to successfully craft a holistic vision of their authorial intent back in the day or it wouldn't have been possible) or whatever to argue otherwise at this point.
At which point discussion becomes futile because people will just mind-read the devs, deny their literal words mean what they mean, and insist on perpetuating the narrative. Often while also attacking those of us who have anything remotely positive to say about this remake - even those of us merely reserving judgment while remaining undecided - as "not real fans" or "not understanding" the games' symbolism.
That's what it somehow always comes down to. Anyone who doesn't share the censorship narrative isn't a "real fan" or "doesn't understand the original games," and even the original creators are somehow no longer authoritative voices about the originals' intentions or vision because they've somehow strayed from the purity of the originals and have been compromised or whatever. And on and on and on ad infinitum.
It's the same reason this lot will argue vociferously against cancel culture, but then celebrate a game like Concord being removed from storefronts. Or rail against what they call "communism" and "censorship" or against some vast conspiracy carried out by China and Tencent and Epic in their minds, but then exalt and celebrate a game like Black Myth Wukong as an ostensible paragon of free speech. 🙄
Which is why I simply block and no longer engage with those people and continue to form my own assessments and make up my own mind, as every SH fan has the freedom to do. And occasionally share these quotes for context. 🤷🏻♂️ Attempts at rational, logically coherent argumentation are futile.