tail puzzle criticism

[Ash The Tall]

okay so I like this game in general, but I really wish this snake tail puzzle was made better. I spent a few hours trying to solve it without spoilers, but I feel like there are a number of issues that made it feel impossible for me. I'll explain why below in a spoiler tag since it will give away the solution.


1. The hint is "The tail of the traitorous lord connects the brand.” But it doesn’t. The tail runs through not the engraved letter glyph-boxes but the space between them. I guess the spaces is what makes up the brand? I don’t see how you are supposed to know that.

2. The solution doesn’t look “right” enough. Here are four possible solutions I came up with and of course only one of them is right, but I don’t see how you are supposed to tell the right one from the wrong ones.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z7ylF4bKOuqfh4N1HR6eP4B4Z08_SO6v/view

3. Even if you draw the snake correctly in the spaces between the glyphs, the solution still doesn’t match the hint. The hint says the tail connects the brand. We know from the picture which tiles the tail goes through. But answer the game is looking for is that the brand is made of the tail rooms the character walks through and does not include the other tail rooms For example, in the correct answer picture you can tell that the tail does not go through the leftmost cell in the top row. But it does go through the second-from-the-left in the top row (connecting the top edge of B031 to the left edge of B037). But both of those cells are not part of the brand that the game is looking for.

Anyway, I feel like the puzzle could have used more playtesting. Maybe you all found it easier than me but the one hint you get is that the tail goes through the brand and that just brought me down all the wrong paths. .

[Blind]

While I didn't bother to do the puzzle myself since apparently I randomly was able to bypass it... it is the kinda puzzle I don't like actually doing since it needs out-of-game resources like.... MS-Paint

...ehhh, what I mean to say is I think the non-tail rooms will also help interlock and figure out the puzzle, maybe. They PROBABLY do, I just haven't checked.

There should be between 26 and 28 total rooms out of the 36 needed to make a complete brand (since I can't recall off-hand if the mural room or the brand room count for this) ...

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Which means that even if the pieces DO interlock, this puzzle would technically make 2 separate brands; Tail's tail AND the empty spaces remaining from a completed interlocking dungeon

[Ash The Tall]

Originally posted by Blind:

While I didn't bother to do the puzzle myself since apparently I randomly was able to bypass it... it is the kinda puzzle I don't like actually doing since it needs out-of-game resources like.... MS-Paint

...ehhh, what I mean to say is I think the non-tail rooms will also help interlock and figure out the puzzle, maybe. They PROBABLY do, I just haven't checked.

There should be between 26 and 28 total rooms out of the 36 needed to make a complete brand (since I can't recall off-hand if the mural room or the brand room count for this) ...

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Which means that even if the pieces DO interlock, this puzzle would technically make 2 separate brands; Tail's tail AND the empty spaces remaining from a completed interlocking dungeon

Well the tail puzzle is pretty important and you can't bypass it without reading spoilers online. The route that goes through B00 can't be unlocked without the hint you get from solving this puzzle. It is possible to read the hint online instead of solving the puzzle but you can't randomly progress through the barrier in B00 without knowing the hint

That is an interesting theory about the non-tail rooms being helpful. I don't see how you could place them or get an info about the puzzle solution from them but maybe I'm missing something.

[Blind]

i accidentally made the tail brand while trying to make another brand, by pure luck

[itsubitsu]

It's also possible to bypass tail brand by knowing that the brand voids look like the sanskrit digits from Zeroranger and just trying to brute-force what the one that goes between "zero" and "two" might look like

[Ash The Tall]

Originally posted by itsubitsu:

It's also possible to bypass tail brand by knowing that the brand voids look like the sanskrit digits from Zeroranger and just trying to brute-force what the one that goes between "zero" and "two" might look like

ahh right of course that makes sense.

[Aria Kawa]

Yeah, this is a puzzle that I really disliked. Not only it forces you to make a mess outside of the game by trying to piece everything on MS Paint, even if you follow the "hints" like the scale patterns, chances are that you are gonna get the placement wrong.