Crewmates no longer "exist", I can't talk to them and I can't dismiss them

[Gordonmorbzolla the III]

This is the SECOND TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED, and it's as the title says, I cannot talk with them, have them follow me, and with the mod Crew Customization, they don't appear on my crew tab either, they simply don't exist. This bug happens at random times, please someone help me end this bug once and for all, none of the removing of mods fixes it either, I've gotten rid of every single mod before and it didn't fix it (to my knowledge, may try it again), here's the log, help a poor soul out. https://pastebin.com/zYFcdUar

[Anter583]

Checked your log, you have 52 errors.

Quite a lot are related to missing and/or corrupt items/recipes/projectiles.
But there's also a lot of JSON patch errors related to crewmembers.

[18:10:17.770] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberchemistblue.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:17.895] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberchemistorange.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:18.054] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberchemistgreen.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:18.127] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberpenguin.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Index 1 out of range in pathApply("/items/default/0/1/1/primary")
[18:10:18.142] [Info] Root: Loaded MonsterDatabase in 0.548878 seconds
[18:10:18.146] [Info] Root: Loaded StagehandDatabase in 0.0038935 seconds
[18:10:18.184] [Info] Root: Loaded VehicleDatabase in 0.0378981 seconds
[18:10:18.200] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberoutlaw.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:18.204] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberjanitor.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:18.211] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmembermedic.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:18.263] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmember.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Index 1 out of range in pathApply("/items/default/0/1/1/head")
[18:10:18.293] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberchemistyellow.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array
[18:10:18.297] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmember.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\1103027918\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) No such key 'cantreach' in pathApply("/scriptConfig/dialog/crewmember/cantreach/saturn")
[18:10:18.312] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmember.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\795711902\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) No such key 'cantreach' in pathApply("/scriptConfig/dialog/crewmember/cantreach/default/default/0")
[18:10:18.338] [Error] Could not apply patch from file /npcs/crew/crewmemberengineer.npctype.patch in source: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop\content\211820\733139672\contents.pak.  Caused by: (JsonPatchException) Could not apply patch to base. (JsonPatchException) Could not apply operation to base. (TraversalException) Could not remove element after end of array

According to this bit of your log, mods with the id's of 733139672, 1103027918 and 795711902 are clashing with eachother or with another mod that runs before them.

the Id's lead to these 3 mods:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=733139672
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1103027918
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=795711902



Looking at the load order, I believe that these mods might be the ones the above three are clashing with:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=747466268
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2017503832

Also there's a high chance that the above 2 crew customization mods might be incompatible with each other and the first 3 mods are just a sideffect.

[Anter583]

Looking into it a bit more, it looks like the "Crew Customization" mod you have installed is an older/outdated version of the "Crew Customization +" mod you also have installed.

You may want to uninstall the older one.

[Gordonmorbzolla the III]

Alright, thank you very much. I tried to uninstall them before, and I know there are always many errors but I can never fix them all. I'll try doing with your advice though, I'll let you know how it goes! @Anter583

[Gordonmorbzolla the III]

https://pastebin.com/fiBhBTMG
It literally crashed when I removed "The Saturnarians" and the old Crew Customization mod.

[Anter583]

Reinstall saturnians, your log states that it couldn't find some saturnian related items, also you will have problems if you go to any generated saturnian village without the mod.

Generally, removing mods that add new items, blocks or npcs isn't a good idea unless you make sure you removed/deleted/uncrafted everything related to them.

Its normal for SB to crash if you had invalid items in your inventory, for some reason the failsafe that removes those items only triggers after SB crashes.


Also, if its not Crew Customization that's causing the problem, then Idk what else might be, the json patch errors that I mentioned earlier are the only thing I could find that references crew. Almost every other error is for invalid items/recipes, most of them seem to relate to a TF2 themed mod.

[Gordonmorbzolla the III]

Yeah, I would need to find every tf2 item I had and delete them, and since I don't know where they are, my game will just crash if I delete the mod. Thank you though!