Harcore, and PermaDeath... whats the differences?

[KeepSix]

I know normal mode, but what i'd like to know is what is hardcore modes differences?

[Taddl]

hardcore: Drop all items on death and lose pixels.

Perma death: Save gets deleted on death.

[Sparkling Homonculus]

Is that after you die or before?

[Taddl]

Originally posted by De-cart:

And you can find "save file" of "perma death mode" and copy it? Wow, so permadeath...

It is for people who want to play perma death. If you dont want to play perma-death, playing perma-death and backing up your save would be pretty unnecessary.

[R]

That is save scumming and true heroes of gaming would never do such a thing.

[Taddl]

Originally posted by De-cart:

cmon, everyone knows about that, everyone do that, but nobody talks about that.

Why would anybody do that, when you simply could play normal. There are no ingame advantages to playing perma-death.

[Willowblade]

Originally posted by De-cart:

Originally posted by Divine Spacer Kuniyoshi:

That is save scumming and true heroes of gaming would never do such a thing.

cmon, everyone knows about that, everyone do that, but nobody talks about that.

This guy.

[Taddl]

Originally posted by De-cart:

maybe just cuz "u so cool u play on permadeath mode everyone respect me"?

Nobody sees if you play perma-death. You could simply say you play perma-death while playing normal. The only difference being that you dont have to back up your save.

[Taddl]

Originally posted by De-cart:

Originally posted by Taddl:

Nobody sees if you play perma-death. You could simply say you play perma-death while playing normal. The only difference being that you dont have to back up your save.

Anyway I will try that uber cool new feature. But its NOT real "permadeath" while you can back up your save.

There is now way to enforce it other than to only have the saves on a dev server. Also there is no need to because it is only for the people wanting to play this way. There is no reason for someone to play perma death when he doesnt want his char to permanently die. So it doesnt really make a difference.

[Arya]

Just ignore the troll; nothing you can say will make them any more eloquent, intelligent or tactful, and they'll usually just drag your down to their level and then beat you with experience. Best just to move along and ignore the proverbial smell.

To answer the OP's question, Permadeath completely erases that character, while Hardcore simply causes it to drop items. With Hardcore, your character will respawn, but drop items wherever they died. The items will stay, but you'll still have to deal with whatever it was that killed you.

[Taddl]

Originally posted by Vindekar:

Items also don't last very long on the ground, so if you do try to reclaim them you'll have to be very quick about it. In short, it's really quite punishing and designed for people who enjoy challenge and set high standards for themselves.

With the last patch player dropped items will stay.

All player drops are persistent now. So if you accidentally throw your diamond drill down a mineshaft, you don’t have to suicide trying to get it back before it disappears.

[Arya]

Ahh, thank you, post edited.

[Maha.j2]

Originally posted by De-cart:

Originally posted by Taddl:

Nobody sees if you play perma-death. You could simply say you play perma-death while playing normal. The only difference being that you dont have to back up your save.

Anyway I will try that uber cool new feature. But its NOT real "permadeath" while you can back up your save.

You can always just NOT backup your save for permadeath.

[Sam Of Haywood]

I wonder if permadeath works like it does on terraria, where yes your char does get deleted but you can retrieve the dropped items with a new char.. unless the devs made the stupid mistake of tying in the world saves into the char saves.

and to get back on topic, i can see someone backing up a perma death save incase the death is cheap or by a game glitch that wasn't supposed to kill him/her in the first place.

[Whiplash]

Originally posted by De-cart:

Originally posted by Taddl:

Nobody sees if you play perma-death. You could simply say you play perma-death while playing normal. The only difference being that you dont have to back up your save.

Anyway I will try that uber cool new feature. But its NOT real "permadeath" while you can back up your save.

If that is your standard, there will NEVER be perma-death. It's impossible to actually enforce such a thing on people. You don't know what you are talking about. This is an issue in pretty much every game that has hardcore mode, or ironman mode. There is always a save file you can backup and restore to get around it.

I could list dozens of games that work that way. And point out that it is impossible to force it on people unless the game does NO LOCAL SAVING AT ALL, and it's ALL CLOUD SAVES.

If you don't understand why, you shouldn't talk about it from a position of ignorance.

There is no benefit to force/faking you are playing in perma-death when you are not. Absolutely none.

So you seem to really be complaining that the game does not have a feature to protect you from yourself. Your own inability to cheat in such a manner. Because that is what it seems like. You complaining that you can cheat, and setting an unreasonable standard on the devs to protect you from your own cheating.

[Thagomizer]

This is the stupidest thread ever. If you want to play permadeath, then don't back up your save. If you don't want permadeath, then don't play permadeath. Why is this even a conversation?