(RANT) This game.....

[Zurg]

I never really got into Starbound much, but I remember playing abit back during the early access days way back when it first came out. I remember that it seemed pretty barebones and lacking, but I thought that the concept was great and with some time it would get alot better and have a huge amount of potential.

Mu friend mentioned the big 1.0 update to me as he is a huge Starbound fan with over 200 hours on it, so although I didn't play in more than a year, I decided to give it a go and see what improvements it received. At first I was excited to see a story mode, but I honestly got bored within a couple hours of playing.

Everything about the game seems off. First off, playing as different races has literaly no impact on the game at all. Every race follows the same story and even starts with the same weapon. There is literaly no point in having races if there is no difference between them besides the fact that they look different and live in different themed villages.

Secondly, the one huge turnoff for me was that the game presents itself as a sort of infinite sandbox type game where you can do whatever the hell you want and make your own adventures and story, yet the story is just a straight up linear path. "oh help me find these EXTREMELY RARE HIDDEN ARTIFACTS that are all located somewhere in the VASTNESS OF THE UNIVERSE, and once you do, you have to fight a MYTICAL CREATURE THAT HAS THE POWER TO DESTROY ENTIRE PLANETS AND TAKE OVER THE UNIVERSE!!" You would at least expect the quest to find these artifacts to be epic in some way, but no. Literaly every artifiact is found by going around scanning pots and objects until you gather enough "intel" or whatever to reveal the location of the artifact, then fight a boring, tedious boss fight and repeat again numerous times until you collect them all. You'd think that a game that is supposedly an open world sandbox RPG might offer you with different story paths, but no. You spend all your time scanning furniture to find clues. Wow, doesn't that sound like fun?

The main story is a joke. I literaly found the clues to every artifact by just staying in the starting star system. Yeah...so much for an epic quest to find extermely rare artifacts that are all hidden at the 6 corners of the universe. Don't even get me started on side quests. They're all pathetic little missions like "oh can you bring me 2 wooden logs?" like seriously??? Who designed this garbage? Or "oh can you deliver this note to somebody?" and the NPC you have to deliver the note to is literaly at the other corner of your damn screen.

People say a bunch of stuff like "oh you can play this game for hundreds of hours and never get bored." and I have literaly played only about 7 hours on my new character and I'm already bored and see no point in continuing. Even the space exploration is a joke. Every planet is basically the same generic layout, with the same generic villages, and the same generic loot and the same generic creatures. Every moon is literaly the exact same barren empty area and serves no purpose except to get fuel, which I can save myself the trouble and literaly just buy the damn fuel at a store.

The survival elements are so watered down it's not even funny. There's no point in building a base on any planet since you have a ship which acts as your permanent safe zone. You can beam down to the first damn planet you end up orbiting and get good weapons from crates right off the bat and just start to slaughter every monster in sight. Farming? Useless. You can literaly spawn on any random planet and pick up food from any random bush. Crew system? Useless. Colony building? Useless.

This game just feels like its a mile wide but 1 inch deep. In other words it offers this whole "open world infinitley generated sandbox survival RPG game" but the mechanics of the game are all extremely watered down and have no depth of any sort to it. So what if theres thousands of planets if every planet is basically the same freaking thing, just with a slightly different layout? I have over a hundred hours of Terraria and I never got bored because it offered fun expriences and there was always a rare new item to try to get, or a new challenge to embark on. Every task, whether it be boss fights, crafting or grinding in Starbound is no fun. It's all tedious, annoying and repetitive. Well that's it for my rant. I'm preparing for a horde of fanboys to come and roast me for insulting this game.

[bloodymonarch]

Originally posted by Blushift:

Originally posted by bloodymonarch:

The funny thing about that fact is that the fanboys always say "Starbound is all about building. If you don't like that, that is your flaw not the game's!". Then you look at Minecraft and realize that as a building game Starbound is trash.

Hell man, the building even in TERRARIA is way better than Starbound. After playing alot of Terraria and having experience building alot of cool things, I tryed out Starbound and I was like "dafuq is this?" The building just seems kinda clunky and I often accidently place blocks in the wrong place or mess something up with the annoying matter manipulator. Not sure if it's just me but I can't build anything near as large or complex as anything I built in Terraria, even if I try. And yea, its absolutely NOTHING compared to the scale of what you can do in Minecraft lol.

Maybe I should post some of the structures I've built in minecraft next time someone spouts off with that fanboy defense. I've made a giant "mario" style sand castle with a flag on it, I've made a Japanese castle tower and I helped my brother make a giant like, indian/buddhist temple thing. Oh, and no cheating or creative mode. Built it all in survival.

It's way better than Starbound's building.

[Pepper]

Yeahhhhhh. I'm getting the same feeling. I played this game when it first came out, it felt like a more explorative version of Terraria. It was really fun to play before, I enjoyed it. I saw the news about this big new update. I was like "Oh boy this gon' be good!" Now my friends and I have played for a couple days and we're basically done. Like, the progression feels way terrible. On Terraria, there were times where we got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ into the ground. We would have to farm out so much ♥♥♥♥ to get anything done or to even consider fighting some bosses. Playing Starbound now, we went through it EZPZ like it was no problem at all.

I feel like I got all my upgrades way too quick, and had no reason to even do the quests. The other thing is, Terraria has hard mode. I'm not sure if this game has it honestly, I haven't finished the story line because it just seems pointless. If it does, maybe that would be something to do, if not then I'm lost. I remember exploring the moons and asteroid belts, that was fun and adventurous. Now apparently they're just emptyness. Boring!

I agree with what you said in one of your replies. There is more to explore in Terraria in one world than there is in the entire universe of Starbound. It took me no time to get to the end game gear and the final tier planets, and now there's nothing after that. The difficulty never goes past what I'm at now, which is so boring. I am in the process of upgrading my ship, but even that is the easiest thing ever. Literally I just turned a bunch of Diamond into Dabloons, recruited a mass amount of penguins and completed each quest with the upgrade modules to upgrade my ship and bam! Maxed out ship, no problem.

Sure, experiencing the new stuff and the cool unique items is fun, but after you do it you feel yourself repeating the same routine over and over with nothing really left to do. I don't think I ever even finished Terraria after the newest updates, and I'm about to just go back to that. I felt much more challenged in Terraria. I felt there was much more to explore.

Not sure what happened. The game was fun before, now it's just empty.

[Rio]

Starbound building did get worse in a way. In vanilla starbound I'm hesitant to upgrade my MM to 5x5 area since 4x4 often gets in the way and 1x1 with shift defeats the point of upgrading size to save time.

Starbound hardmode is hardcore mode.

[No Time to Explain]

Originally posted by bloodymonarch:

Originally posted by box of tomatoes:

I dont want to add but minecraft is literally the worst one out o eveyr sandbox in existance its more of a blank template for other ones it has nothing special to it just sword and bow and then thats it.

That is not an objective analysis of Minecraft. I can list many things you leave out. I'll simply mention that splash potions can also be a weapon, along with many other things.

like guns wand magic a whip anything that is fun to do other than grind for hours and then build a crappy house there is nothin fun to do period.

[Rio]

The things you can build in minecraft are amazing. Not that long ago a person made a working cell phone with a working camera/screen on it for browzing the net and video chat. Its screen was made up of so many wool blocks.

Theres even a mod called Pixelmon which lets you have 3d pokemon in minecraft complete with pokemon battles, shinines, breeding, hold items, poke centers, pokedex, legendaies, ect. I used to play on server with gym leaders and stuff since its boring playing it solo. They also had a server that was a recreation of kanto or johoto region.

Theres tons of tech mods too

There was one really fun magic one about researching aspects, collecting nodes, automation with golems and stuff.

Also another fun one is

If you bored when you play it, its not minecraft its just not for you. Because minecraft has so many mechanics to learn and exploit. Where as star bound and terraria are more limited.

In the future who knows, Maybe Space engineers will become the 3D starbound now that they have planets. You just need a monster PC to run it.

[bloodymonarch]

Originally posted by box of tomatoes:

Originally posted by bloodymonarch:

That is not an objective analysis of Minecraft. I can list many things you leave out. I'll simply mention that splash potions can also be a weapon, along with many other things.

like guns wand magic a whip anything that is fun to do other than grind for hours and then build a crappy house there is nothin fun to do period.

The house is only crappy if you're crappy at making a house. If you wanted different weapons in Minecraft, I'm sure there are mods for that, just like I pray to any deity that there will be good mods for this game. Unlike Minecraft, I don't see Starbound being any good without mods.

[bloodymonarch]

Originally posted by Promise:

The things you can build in minecraft are amazing. Not that long ago a person made a working cell phone with a working camera/screen on it for browzing the net and video chat. Its screen was made up of so many wool blocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdlZRhKmWJY

If that is legit, it's awesome.

[TheDoctor]

Originally posted by bloodymonarch:

Originally posted by Promise:

The things you can build in minecraft are amazing. Not that long ago a person made a working cell phone with a working camera/screen on it for browzing the net and video chat. Its screen was made up of so many wool blocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdlZRhKmWJY

If that is legit, it's awesome.

This kind of ♥♥♥♥ that make me really want to go back on minecraft but i try not... Last time i played it me and my friends had this crazy idea to build a giantic fortress from bedrock 1 until the last sky block possible it took 2 weeks and when we finally finished it was so big that the admin of the server almost banned was because "it's to much stone bricks to craft" we have to show him our underground furnace with 20 stoves making stone bricks all the time. Good old days. In the end we just give the fortress to the admin and move on...

[Red Bat]

Originally posted by box of tomatoes:

These forms are cancer just full of rants about how they have a bias for terraria.

That's a pretty bad sign considering this is the STARBOUND forum. If the people on the STARBOUND forum are ranting about what they dislike about the game, then maybe, just maybe, the game is a disappointment.

I've actually got quite a few hours in both games. I'll fully admit I'm not really a big fan of either. Last I checked I had like 60 hours in Terraria and I never even unlocked hard mode, a lot of those hours were probably just me leaving the game alt tabbed out of while I multitask. But Terraria is noticably leagues better than Starbound in almost every way. It's not even that Terraria is a super great game. Starbound's flaws just stick out too much.

Don't get me wrong, there are some cool aspects of Starbound too. But it's got so many problems, and so many just plain bland elements of gameplay that the game ends up being a steaming pile of averageness. "Average" is a very bad thing to be when your direct competitor is almost the same thing, but better.

[Ballsm]

A large player base is bound to bring in heaps of negativity with it. Those who enojy the game are playing and those who are buthurt hang on the forums and look to stir the pot and get a reaction.

[Olaf Siegbrecht]

Originally posted by Balsm:

A large player base is bound to bring in heaps of negativity with it. Those who enojy the game are playing and those who are buthurt hang on the forums and look to stir the pot and get a reaction.

If the ones who like the game are playing it, and you are here, does that mean that you do not like the game?

[TheDoctor]

Originally posted by Balsm:

A large player base is bound to bring in heaps of negativity with it. Those who enojy the game are playing and those who are buthurt hang on the forums and look to stir the pot and get a reaction.

Flawed logic... but i don't give it another month to die again as it was before 1.0. if they don't fix this fast xD

[Red Bat]

Originally posted by Balsm:

A large player base is bound to bring in heaps of negativity with it. Those who enojy the game are playing and those who are buthurt hang on the forums and look to stir the pot and get a reaction.

This isn't happening on other Steam game forums for other big games. Where is the hatedom for Mount and Blade for example?

[Rio]

Originally posted by Pidgeotto:

Originally posted by Balsm:

A large player base is bound to bring in heaps of negativity with it. Those who enojy the game are playing and those who are buthurt hang on the forums and look to stir the pot and get a reaction.

This isn't happening on other Steam game forums for other big games. Where is the hatedom for Mount and Blade for example?

I've got plenty of hate for mount and blade, but only its new dlc that nerfed level up stats and the fun character building of the base game and just tries to be a totally differen't kind of game. That viking conquest dlc got tons of hate. Darkest dungeon gets tons of people angry.

But Viking conquest isn't a big deal since the base game still works fine. And Darkest well I had my fill in early access and saw the changes an uninstalled when things I enjoyed like all dungeon camping buff got removed. And that the final dungeon largely has no loot and just looked completely unfun, they also made characters level super faster and be even more disposible.

I've not checked it but I suppose mighty no.9's forums probably look bad about now.

[Red Bat]

Originally posted by Promise:

Originally posted by Pidgeotto:

This isn't happening on other Steam game forums for other big games. Where is the hatedom for Mount and Blade for example?

I've got plenty of hate for mount and blade, but only its new dlc that nerfed level up stats and the fun character building of the base game and just tries to be a totally differen't kind of game. That viking conquest dlc got tons of hate. Darkest dungeon gets tons of people angry.

But Viking conquest isn't a big deal since the base game still works fine. And Darkest well I had my fill in early access and saw the changes an uninstalled when things I enjoyed like all dungeon camping buff got removed. And that the final dungeon largely has no loot and just looked completely unfun, they also made characters level super faster and be even more disposible.

I've not checked it but I suppose mighty no.9's forums probably look bad about now.

I don't mean those games don't get hate, what I mean is for those games, their forums are not flooded with hate posts. You see maybe one every month or so. This game's forum on the other hand has been accused of being a circlejerk of hate for the game. I'd say that's a pretty good indication that there might be some legitimate concern in there.