Ridiculous pyromancy.

[Jordan The Rock]

Sorry for the many topics I have put on recently.

So I was casually letting myself be invaded today, and I was winning most of them. Next, a level one invaded, and me being a little arrogant, threw a few "Very Good!"s down. The level 1 ran up to me and did 700 DAMAGE with a single combustion. Excuse me?

How is is possible for them to do so much damage? I was wearing havels aswell....

I have always been told that upgrading your pyromancy flame only increases punch damage, not actual spell damage. Is this incorrect? I do 200 damage with my combustion, yet a level 1 does 700 to a guy wearing half-havels at level 85.

[Daynar]

He was probably using rings and stuff to buff his spell damage.

[ARF]

No upgrading the pyro flame is the only way to increase the damage, the punch damage is from the A scaling from intelligence. Pyromancy is basically a broken thing in Dark Souls since it doesnt scale with any stat whatsoever and as long as you dump enough souls into it you can do ridiculous amounts of damage regardless of level. A +5 ascended flame will destroy pretty much anything.

[BurningCal]

No, each time it is upgraded, the magic adjustment goes up, when it becomes acended it increases the punch damage a small amout, but its not noticable.

[Jordan The Rock]

Originally posted by amastif102:

No, each time it is upgraded, the magic adjustment goes up, when it becomes acended it increases the punch damage a small amout, but its not noticable.

So the damage increases when it is +0-15, but not after it is ascended? So basically, you should keep at +15 for max damage? (then add crown of dusk)

[SmokeAndMirrorz]

Ascended Pyromancy Flame +5 + Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring + Crown of the Dark Sun or Crown of Dusk

[Banr]

Originally posted by Jordan McBeast:

So the damage increases when it is +0-15, but not after it is ascended? So basically, you should keep at +15 for max damage? (then add crown of dusk)

The Mag Adjust at +15 is 190, Ascended +5 is 230.

[Jordan The Rock]

Originally posted by SmokeAndMirrorz:

Ascended Pyromancy Flame +5 + Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring + Crown of the Dark Sun or Crown of Dusk

Bellowcrest ring only improves sorceries...?

[SmokeAndMirrorz]

no its not

[Jordan The Rock]

Originally posted by Banrot:

Originally posted by Jordan McBeast:

So the damage increases when it is +0-15, but not after it is ascended? So basically, you should keep at +15 for max damage? (then add crown of dusk)

The Mag Adjust at +15 is 190, Ascended +5 is 230.

The wiki said that the spell damage doesn't increase when it is ascended, just the punch damage. It may be wrong..

Anyone got a pyromancy damag calculator or something?

[SmokeAndMirrorz]

im useing apf+5 + bellowcrest, and my gfb is around 700-950 dmg in pvp

[Banr]

It is in the wiki:

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/pyromancy-flame

Although the Pyromancy Flame has INT scaling, this scaling does not affect the Flame's MagAdjust (which governs the damage spells inflict). The INT scaling is only for the strong attack's Fire damage. The only way to increase the MagAdjust is by upgrading the Flame.

[Jordan The Rock]

Originally posted by Banrot:

It is in the wiki:

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/pyromancy-flame

Although the Pyromancy Flame has INT scaling, this scaling does not affect the Flame's MagAdjust (which governs the damage spells inflict). The INT scaling is only for the strong attack's Fire damage. The only way to increase the MagAdjust is by upgrading the Flame.

Ok that makes more sense, I must have looked at a crappy wiki, since there is about 6 lol

[Arkmind]

pyromancy isn't based on stats for it's damage like sorcerery. Any level 1 can level up there pyromancy hand to +15 an get great combustion an chaos fireball an do the same amount of dmg as a level 700 does with the same spells.

[Arngrim]

Originally posted by Jordan McBeast:

Originally posted by SmokeAndMirrorz:

Ascended Pyromancy Flame +5 + Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring + Crown of the Dark Sun or Crown of Dusk

Bellowcrest ring only improves sorceries...?

it increases the damage of all spells, but it does not affect buffs.

[BurningCal]

Sorcery & Pyromancy, not Miricles at all