DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

Black Knight Halberd, Best Weapon?
I have a heavy armor character with a big focus on strength, and as such have been searching high and low for the best weapon in the game. I have fully completed the game and the only weapon I do not have and fully upgraded is the last boss weapon (craft that is).

Yet, the Black Knight Halberd is still out classing all the weapons I find. Even the two swords found in the DLC (dragon tail and Arterious craft). My guy has 50 STR, so I would assume I should get better results from a B scaling or higher weapon, but even the BK greatsword, which has B scaling does less damage.

In my testing the Black Knight Halberd does more damage than all the other end game weapons, attacks faster, drains far less stamina and its R1 attack benefits from counter damage. Not to mention its giant reach makes getting the counter damage bonus and taking no damage very easy with good timing.

Can someone fill me in on why this weapon is so powerful, a wiki states there is some hidden modifer with its damage... maybe the BK halberd being this powerful is unintentional.. It really should not be better than one of the (arguebly) hardest weapons to get... dragon tail cut from Kalameet.
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Dusk of Oolacile eredeti hozzászólása:
guillaumedelaforge eredeti hozzászólása:
Found this tread googling "black knight halberd dark souls op?"

Never played dark souls before, i'm ravaging ng+ with the BKH.. misterious scaling makes it hit harder than Great Lord Greatsword, that should be better in scaling and base damage.

Even if i agree with the "best weapon is what fit best for you", BKH simply deals too much damage considering it's stats.
Add the moveset swap glitch and you'll see how speedrunners can kill bosses in 2 hits.
I thought that was a closely guarded secret that started in demon's souls.
I've found Ornstein's spear to be the best weapon in the game.
Black Knight Weapons are the best of the game DMG wise.

The Black Knight Greatsword has more DMG than the Black Knight Halberd.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Kobi Blade; 2015. júl. 14., 14:29
The BKH has range and amazing poisedamage, but the D scaling sooner or later will hurt you and the moveset...
Black Knight Weapons are super crutchy. They're slow and the movesets are god awful for all of them.
Good Strength Weapons tend to be like the Great Club/Large Club (dat scaling) with a decent moveset.
Man Serpent sword- Fast, best Strength scaling in game.
Demon's Weapons - Hit super hard, but very slow.

Legutóbb szerkesztette: Anaverageguy41; 2015. júl. 14., 14:50
Anaverageguy41 eredeti hozzászólása:
Black Knight Weapons are super crutchy. They're slow and the movesets are god awful for all of them.
The trick is using the light attack, which is fast and barely does less damage than the heavy attack. The 2-handed light attack is also fast and devastating. This is why it's OP, it isn't as slow as greatswords. The only downside is its weight, you need somewhere around 60 END to carry it along with light armor and shield and still preserve fastrolls. (Unless you want to waste a ring slot for havel's ring.)
Anaverageguy41 eredeti hozzászólása:
Black Knight Weapons are super crutchy. They're slow and the movesets are god awful for all of them.
Good Strength Weapons tend to be like the Great Club/Large Club (dat scaling) with a decent moveset.
Man Serpent sword- Fast, best Strength scaling in game.
Demon's Weapons - Hit super hard, but very slow.

Saying the Black Knight Weapons are slow, then recomending a Great Club, what?
Clever Username eredeti hozzászólása:
I've found Ornstein's spear to be the best weapon in the game.
Whelp, there's my next runthrough/ng+...
King Arthur eredeti hozzászólása:
Anaverageguy41 eredeti hozzászólása:
Black Knight Weapons are super crutchy. They're slow and the movesets are god awful for all of them.
Good Strength Weapons tend to be like the Great Club/Large Club (dat scaling) with a decent moveset.
Man Serpent sword- Fast, best Strength scaling in game.
Demon's Weapons - Hit super hard, but very slow.

Saying the Black Knight Weapons are slow, then recomending a Great Club, what?

Buffable + 100x better moveset and better scaling Rolling 2 handed R1 yo
Dusk of Oolacile eredeti hozzászólása:
Anaverageguy41 eredeti hozzászólása:
Black Knight Weapons are super crutchy. They're slow and the movesets are god awful for all of them.
The trick is using the light attack, which is fast and barely does less damage than the heavy attack. The 2-handed light attack is also fast and devastating. This is why it's OP, it isn't as slow as greatswords. The only downside is its weight, you need somewhere around 60 END to carry it along with light armor and shield and still preserve fastrolls. (Unless you want to waste a ring slot for havel's ring.)

Still might as well use a normal Halberd then or the regular scythe. They're buffable with stronger quality scaling.
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King Arthur eredeti hozzászólása:

Saying the Black Knight Weapons are slow, then recomending a Great Club, what?

Buffable + 100x better moveset and better scaling Rolling 2 handed R1 yo

I don't remember OP talking about PvP to worry about buffs.

Unless you have so much trouble agaisnt the bosses you need to buff your weapons, lol.
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Anaverageguy41 eredeti hozzászólása:

Buffable + 100x better moveset and better scaling Rolling 2 handed R1 yo

I don't remember OP talking about PvP to worry about buffs.

Unless you have so much trouble agaisnt the bosses you need to buff your weapons, lol.

He never mentioned PvE either.
Either way Great Club + 15 with DMB easily outpaces any Black knight weapon. And that's just at + 15. Same with the Man Sword and the Demon Weapons.
Also it's not about trouble it's about getting through the annoying bosses asap. So y'know SLB for Seath makes mincemeat of the fight.
DMB for everything else makes mincemeat
Keep in mind that standard weapons typically outclass boss weapons, and that standard +15 is usually the best for weapons.
BEST WEAPON IS ZWEI, END OF DISCUSSION, GIT GUD OR DIE TRYING, THE LEGEND NEVER DIES!!!!
nah, best weapon for STR is Demon's Greataxe Crsytal Infusion
Infuse, not imbue. Crystal ember it up
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