Black Knight Halberd, Best Weapon?

[Atari]

I have a heavy armor character with a big focus on strength, and as such have been searching high and low for the best weapon in the game. I have fully completed the game and the only weapon I do not have and fully upgraded is the last boss weapon (craft that is).

Yet, the Black Knight Halberd is still out classing all the weapons I find. Even the two swords found in the DLC (dragon tail and Arterious craft). My guy has 50 STR, so I would assume I should get better results from a B scaling or higher weapon, but even the BK greatsword, which has B scaling does less damage.

In my testing the Black Knight Halberd does more damage than all the other end game weapons, attacks faster, drains far less stamina and its R1 attack benefits from counter damage. Not to mention its giant reach makes getting the counter damage bonus and taking no damage very easy with good timing.

Can someone fill me in on why this weapon is so powerful, a wiki states there is some hidden modifer with its damage... maybe the BK halberd being this powerful is unintentional.. It really should not be better than one of the (arguebly) hardest weapons to get... dragon tail cut from Kalameet.

[Ambugaton]

I thought it might be my imagination.. I've been playing around with it lately (not my main, doesn't fit this char's style, somehow) and it defnitely hits harder than it should, just gauging by its stats on paper. Opposite of the BK Great Axe, which seems to hit for less than it should.

[Eyeless]

the best weapon is the great scythe

[Kamen Kreuz]

It is a good weapon, and fast for it's power, but I wouldn't call it the best by a good bit, although "best" is definitely subjective. It's certainly far from the most powerful, and that Dex investment can be a pain for Str builds.

[Atari]

Well considering I have compared the BK halberd to at least 15 different end game, fully upgraded weapons, I would consider it to be the best. I am just curious why this is mostly. Honestly, it feels broken, like using it somehow trivilizes the game. Sure a fully upgrade Great Axe does more damage, but you get less attacks in because it is slower and drains your stamina a ton. From a DPS standpoint, the BK halberd seems to be a lot better than other weapons. The lifehunt scyth is neat, and the bleed effect could be considering more damage overall. Bleed damage is pve is far too unreliable for my taste though.

[Ambugaton]

Originally posted by Atari:

Well considering I have compared the BK halberd to at least 15 different end game, fully upgraded weapons, I would consider it to be the best. I am just curious why this is mostly. Honestly, it feels broken, like using it somehow trivilizes the game. Sure a fully upgrade Great Axe does more damage, but you get less attacks in because it is slower and drains your stamina a ton. From a DPS standpoint, the BK halberd seems to be a lot better than other weapons. The lifehunt scyth is neat, and the bleed effect could be considering more damage overall. Bleed damage is pve is far too unreliable for my taste though.

But to be fair, most of the unique weapons really aren't that great compared to any number of more mundane weapons. One of the ironies of DS: by the time you manage to get something like the obsidian greatsword, some weapon you found early in the game just lying on the ground has been upgraded to the point that the obsidian greatsword is already outclassed.

[Kamen Kreuz]

Originally posted by Atari:

Well considering I have compared the BK halberd to at least 15 different end game, fully upgraded weapons, I would consider it to be the best. I am just curious why this is mostly. Honestly, it feels broken, like using it somehow trivilizes the game. Sure a fully upgrade Great Axe does more damage, but you get less attacks in because it is slower and drains your stamina a ton. From a DPS standpoint, the BK halberd seems to be a lot better than other weapons. The lifehunt scythe is neat, and the bleed effect could be considering more damage overall. Bleed damage is pve is far too unreliable for my taste though.

There are better(at least, in my opinion) weapons for around that damage and speed. For example, the Man-Serpent Greatsword deals a bit more damage and is lighter. The Stone Greatsword, although weighing much more, is surprisingly fast(edit: almost Claymore fast) and deals much more damage with it's magic bonus.

[Atari]

I always see people mention the man serpent GS as a good end-game weapon. What would be a good upgrade path for it? +15? Chaos?

[Kamen Kreuz]

Originally posted by Atari:

I always see people mention the man serpent GS as a good end-game weapon. What would be a good upgrade path for it? +15? Chaos?

Definitely normal path. Dat high scaling. Another edit: Chaos with 4 Humanity will do more damage, but I seriously dislike any weapon that requires Humanity to do good.

[Yolo Swaggins]

One of my favourite builds has always been a SL 100 with 30ish Vit+End and 50 magic, using powerful spells and an enchanted +5 Iaito/Uchigatana/Washing Pole. "Best" weapon is definitely a matter of opinion. I beat 80% of my opponents with this build.

[PlzDontTouchMyButt]

There's not really such a thing as a "best" weapon. Sure some will hit harder and some will be faster but it depends completely on the player. Str adjustment-wise, I believe Demon Greataxe has the highest flat damage at +15 at 50 str if you're looking for straight str. It also depends on if you're looking at pvp or not. If you're simply looking to wreck in PvE with a Str build, throw some points in dex and get the Lucerne + Leo Ring. One of the most effective boss-killing weapons in game because of it's piercing status.

[Atari]

Just reporting back after making a chaos MSG, the damage is a fraction of my Halberd. R1 on the MSG hits for 140 on black knight. R1 with Halberd hits for 270.

[anixal]

Originally posted by Atari:

Just reporting back after making a chaos MSG, the damage is a fraction of my Halberd. R1 on the MSG hits for 140 on black knight. R1 with Halberd hits for 270.

Elemental damage weapons will not do as much as a standard well made +15 weapon.

[Barnett]

i used the BkH to beat my second playthrough of the game and its like i was on easy mode but shouldnt the dragonking geataxe hit harder with 50str?

[Kamen Kreuz]

Originally posted by Atari:

Just reporting back after making a chaos MSG, the damage is a fraction of my Halberd. R1 on the MSG hits for 140 on black knight. R1 with Halberd hits for 270.

Black Knights have very high fire resist, so, yeah...
Here's some numbers from the character planner, set at 50 Str and 18 Dex:
BK Halberd: 510
Man-Sword: 529
Chaos Man-Sword, 5 Humanity: 535
Stone Greatsword: 528

[Atari]

To those reading this and looking for information. I upgraded two man serpent greatswords, one +4 chaos and one +14. The +14 hit harder on quite a few different enemies and I was at 12 humanity. Either way, my Halberd blew them both away for damage.

Yeah Jacob, the halberd really makes the game a lot easier. Its giant reach, amazing damage and fast attack speed make it, in my opinion, the best weapon you can get. Whats more, you can get it 10 minutes into playing the game. Pump points into STR until you are at 22 and proceed to one shot everything for the next 4-5 zones while 2 handing. I thought after a while I would replace my halberd, but it is still the best option. Can't wait to get the leo ring on my new game plus.... it will be even better...