Bows, things and stuff

[Hello darkness]

Hi! I'm have three beautiful bows and want to upgrade them. Any advice? They are: short bow, long bow and composite bow. Miss Parish didn't give me her black badass bow for some reason and i keep my pain inside for that...

Anyway, i wanna go dex/int. I begin as a pure dex character with some pyro until i reach dex 50 (cause it improves casting spells speed) and i was thinking on upgrade my bows this way:

a +15 standar bow

a elemental bow

a magic/enchanted bow



I though to go +15 with the short bow cause it's what i'm using the most, magic with long bow and fire with composite bow (cause it has a really good base damage but scale really bad for dex) but.... some guys here and there say that the magic bow is really useful and i'm not sure if going magic with short bow or with composite, since that path changes the way it scale.

What i know for sure it's that i want use a short bow as my main bow cause the firing speed is higher. I use the long bow only for sniping since.... sight... the game didn't gave me the black parish bow.

[Fyrex]

With Dex and Int you should try the Darkmoon Bow.

[bozohontas]

If you level DEX for casting speed, I think you should stop at 45.
Darkmoon Bow is for FAITH, but does magical damage....
Play around with stats and infusements here: http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/
What I can tell you: Black Bow of Pharis is a good DEX bow.
Composite Bow is used in PVP, because of fast draw speed and because it's a very good bow for Quality builds, which got 40 in both STR and DEX. I recommend Composite Bow for the magic/enchant bow.
Slabs are rare, think twice before you use one for a +15 standard bow. Good Luck!

[FEZ. TF7]

if i remember correctly i think the composite scale's well with fire, it's been a long time since i've played an archer and i was a low level the last time i beat the game playing that way, but i'm pretty sure that it scale's better with fire than anything else as a base scaling and unless you have pumped a stat like INT then obviously magic ot enchanted might be better

[Hello darkness]

That "character planner" works well? Cause it says that with 11 str and 45 dex a +15 short bow do 287 adn a composite bow do 311. How is it possible if a short bow has an S scaling to dex, and the composite only C?

Following what the planner sais, the way to go is:

Chaos short bow. It seems the only way to maximize the damage of that bow. 329

Magic composite bow. 410. The numbers talks for itselfs

I'm amaze that with little investment in strenght the composite bow seems to have the best damage of all.

[Nellvan]

You need to look at the breakdown of the split damage types. The final number is bigger, but since you now have the damage reduced by 2 resistances it will not do as much damage as the total AR suggest.

Composite always has more damage, even at 8 str. The base damage is just that much higher. Black Bow is almost the same as Longbow. With 50 dex it only takes 14 str for the longbow to be ahead. The difference is in range (and drawspeed).

A similar case is Man-Serpent sword (str) vs Zweihander (quality). Even for a strenght build the Zwei always has the higher number, but there are more factors to the actual performance, like swing speed and stamina cost.

[Hello darkness]

I wanna use some close range weapons too, and i'm looking trhought daggers and Thrusting Swords. My options are:

+15 estoc for the range.

Richard's rapier with elemental or +15 with poison.

Lightning dagger

+15 bandit knife

velka's rapier for the int scaling and magic damage

magic or lightning parrying dagger (that is for parrying but I wanna it to be useful to atack)

What do you think is the best option? I'm gonna use grass crest shield and targed shield for parrying too and maybe balder shield or iron round shield for stability and deflection factors

[FEZ. TF7]

If your going to be doing alot of parrying then your better off going with the standard Rapier, it has the highest crit dmg out of the lot, and being as your on about parrying it's the best option, it even does more crit damage than the bandits knife, Ricards and Velkas look nice with their moveset but if you want that extra bit of damage the the standard is the way to go

[Hello darkness]

i was thinking on the velka's for the magic damage.Should i make my rapier magic?

[FEZ. TF7]

I'm not entirely sure how it scales with magic/enchanted compared to Velka's so really i could not not say because i've only ever upgraded the Rapier to +15, Velka's is a good weapon tho for a INT build and i have used it many times, i just mentioned the Rapier because of the crit damge, personnaly i prefer the look and moveset of Velka's

Maybe someone with more info would be able to provide you with better insight than me

The main reason i use the Rapier tho is because i only ever do low level runs now and with the low requirements of the weapon it's an ideal choice because it gives me the most damage output on a parry or backstab

[NucularRobit]

Have you tried going back to the spawn point of the black bow? I have never known it not to drop.

[Hello darkness]

The fact is that Miss Parish fall off a clif to her doom and... that is it, no drop for me -.-

[Esna]

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The fact is that Miss Parish fall off a clif to her doom and... that is it, no drop for me -.-

If you reload the game, the drops should be where she originally stands (near the knight).

[Hello darkness]

Too lafe I think, but i will remember that for the next time