DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

DARK SOULS™: Prepare To Die Edition

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Rensje 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 6:33
Tips for Ornstein and Smough
Hey guys, I'm a Dark Souls newcomer working his way through the game for the first time. I struggled through Sen's Fortress and put up with Blighttown despite the load of BS the game throws at you, but right now I'm completely stuck on O&S. I've spent an entire afternoon trying to get anywhere against them, but so far I've only managed to get extremely frustrated.

I don't want to summon any help out of principle, but I am just one or two attempts away from quitting the game and never coming back. Please, any help would be appreciated. I tried close combat and I've tried chucking Lightning Spears, but neither tactic has gotten me any closer to beating the bastards.
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cridus 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 6:48 
you don't even want to summon solaire?
anyway, the best way to fight them 1vs2 (especially in NG) is to kill ornstein first and use pillars to keep smough away. you must keep them both on the screen all the time. when smough goes around a pillar, run behind another one (don't stay close to it because he can hit you through them). ornstein won't get stuck and it will be sort of a 1vs1 fight. once you have defeated ornstein, stick to smough's belly to evade his attacks (apart from the hammer-trampling one and the butt slam) and attack him once or twice after he misses one of his attacks. when you see lightning starting to charge on him, it means he is going to use the butt slam. roll away three times as fast as you can and don't go back to him until the electricity has completely disappeared (keep the shield up just in case). not attacking him too many times in a row in this part is important, or you may find yourself in the middle of an attack animation while he uses the butt slam, which isn't nice.
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Dj DNA 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 6:49 
Always keep a pillar between you and them, have them both in your sight, try killing ornstein first.
Rensje 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 7:15 
I just can't keep them separated long enough to get anywhere in this fight. I finally caved and tried it with Solaire's help a couple of times, but even then it's just no use because he dies way too fast.

I managed Dark Souls 2 but I think this game is just beyond my skill, unfortunately.
Wolhaiksong 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 7:17 
Just summon some1 this game is all about j-j-jolly cooperation :D
lauraegy74 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 7:21 
seems more hard than what seem.
0 tip take your time,Dark souls hate who hurry up
1 tip: make a weapon +10,uchi or great schyth
2 tip: summon solaire or waiting signs before to fight
3 tip:try to kill befor ornestein,smough itìs easy,learn the pattern
4 tip.: stay and leave the sign,let evocate you,i have join about 40/50 boss fight of other players
5 tip: stay light,don't be a tank,check always stamina,don't make spam attack,this is not "BloodShit"
6 tip.don't give up,the other boss fight are more hard
7 tip: make more more practise,at least all be easy
8 tip: good luck
9 tip: GG
BW 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 7:42 
I completely understand you, I had troubles with them too. Like huge troubles.

I don't have much experience fighting them 1on2, but here are some tips I can think of:

1) Try Fire. Smough especially is weak against fire, that is, if you have decent fire options. I used Ascended Pyromancy Flame +5 (and it killed him like within 10 seconds) though... But still, fire beats phys., imo, if you have a good fire weapon/pyromancy, of course.

2) Game of Patience comes in mind. Sometimes they bug and don't attack for a while, or you can keep one behind a pillar (Smough's charging attack comes in mind). Something like a spear would be good to use the opening you get.

3) Make use of Solaire, while he's alive. He usually dies to this bossfight but he can distract one of them. Then, you should switch to your best weapon and try to deal as much damage as you can to the other one. They're really not that difficult alone - you should have experience from the Old Dragonslayer and Smough's kinda easy

4) Don't play when you're angry. I did this mistake on my first playthrough against O&S. 40. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Tries. 5 with summons. Just... don't do it.
Rensje 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 7:47 
Heh, I hear ya BW. I can only grin and bear so many attempts before I start to get really frustrated, and it doesn't help.

I haven't tried fire yet, but I might be out of luck because I don't think I've collected the Fireball spell and I don't think there's any way I can get it because I can't get back to Firelink Shrine right now. Lightning Spear will have to do. Guess I will try the circling back technique and be mindful of the pillars whenever Smough's doing his charge attack.

I do indeed have experience with Old Dragonslayer from Dark Souls 2, so if and when I manage to down Smough consistently, the second part of the fight should be fairly straightforward.

(I just have to kill Ornstein last because I want the armor.)
Pigeon Daddy 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 9:01 
1. New players shouldn't try the Great Scythe, it is an awkward weapon.
2. Solaire can draw aggro, but he's weak and dies easily.
3. Smough is harder to kill first, but Super Ornstein is easier. So first timers should still go for Ornstein first.
4. I'm not sure what you're saying, but it sounds like use co-op. Yes, just not Solaire. Solaire increases boss HP and always dies.
5. This actually makes sense. Fast roll and learn those dodge timings.
6. O&S is the hardest boss for first timers, outside of BoC and the final boss.
7. Yes.
8. Praise the Sun
9. git gud

引用自 lauraegy74
seems more hard than what seem.
0 tip take your time,Dark souls hate who hurry up
1 tip: make a weapon +10,uchi or great schyth
2 tip: summon solaire or waiting signs before to fight
3 tip:try to kill befor ornestein,smough itìs easy,learn the pattern
4 tip.: stay and leave the sign,let evocate you,i have join about 40/50 boss fight of other players
5 tip: stay light,don't be a tank,check always stamina,don't make spam attack,this is not "BloodShit"
6 tip.don't give up,the other boss fight are more hard
7 tip: make more more practise,at least all be easy
8 tip: good luck
9 tip: GG
Aigle1705 2015 年 3 月 28 日 上午 10:05 
1. both are weak to fire dmg, get a fireweapon (smith in catakombs) or upgrade your pyroflame.
2. prefer rolling instead of block (below 50% equipload)
3. try to kill smough first. smough can be dodge easy when close up. n mega ornstein cant hit you when close up, only the buttstomp can.
4. use enviroment. smough cant charge around those pillar. hell be stuck if your on the other side (mega smough too). easy to kill by range or magic this way./ ornstein will bug himself around the pillar. careful.
5. there still is the npc summon solair, he can tank the other one until you kill 1 of them. guess he wont survive to stage2.
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