Partizan Infusion

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

Hey everyone. So ive been wanting to use spears in pvp and i wanted to use the partizan because of its diverse moveset with thrusting and slashing. On the build i want to use it for, its a pure melee dex build and it scales C with dex. Do you guys think i should infuse it or just ascend through the standard.

[Bones]

Do you already have a build? If not I would suggest that you consider a faith or int buffing build.

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

yeah i already have it. Im at sl 65 right now and even if i did have faith/int, i dont like to buff my weapons

[Bones]

If you want it to be viable at a high level you will want to go with a buff. If we're talking about something to use at ~sl70 you could just go chaos and do what you like with it.

In any case, just have a look at this. You might like it, if not it took me a grand total of like 3 minutes to put together.
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?c=349874457829565370

I didn't mention in the notes but gargoyle helm, giant's gauntlets and hollow soldier waist with wolf ring (instead of havels) gives you enough poise to tank a 2h r1 from an ultra greatsword. You could also play around with the armor to get higher defense with the recommended 56 poise in the original ring configuration.

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

Thank you. And just a quick question: what is optimal pvp level. It doesnt have to be high level, just where would i get most invasions

[Bones]

100-125 for Oolacile township, ~45 for Anor Londo, 60-80 for lord soul boss areas and painted world. In general if you want to invade lower level is better and if you want to be invaded higher is better.

[RichardV]

Originally posted by FreshPrinceOfPine:

Thank you. And just a quick question: what is optimal pvp level. It doesnt have to be high level, just where would i get most invasions

That varies, as you get more experienced you can lower the SL quite significantly. I started out at SL110, to 100, then 50, now 40. At a certain point SL becomes irrelevant when skill takes that over, all you really need is enough str or dex to wield a weapon, though enough to have good scaling off weapons. Endurance and health is set to whatver you are most comfortable with, or if you want to fast role instead of higher health.

You need to be a low level to get the most invasions, I would say SL60 at the very max because of the much lower population of players.

[Crombell]

The partizan can potentially be a very powerful weapon, if you can get the timing right.

You see, spears have a higher "hit priority", than most other weapons (a rapier might have a higher priority, though I'm not sure). If both you and your opponent hit each other at the exact same time, then the opponent will take damage, but you'll get pushed away unharmed.

Fast-rolling isn't actually that big of a deal when you use it, as you'll be trying to make counter-stab/sweeps.

It's also quite viable as a two-handed weapon due to the more versatile moveset, and spears are honestly lacking in damage. I'd personally take advantage of that, and use it with a grass crest or something similar.

This is a very rough idea for a build, but it covers the most important parts, and there's enough flexibility to make it work with whatever you have at the moment:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2Fycmlvciw0NSw4LDQwLDMwLDQwLDExLDksOSwwLDAsMCw0Nyw1MCwyMSwzMSwxNTMsODQsMCwwLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLDEsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMA==

(You don't need havel's gauntlets/leggings, it's just the most efficient way to get more than 54 poise. Replace it with whatever you want to use, as long as you have more than 54 poise.)

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

Originally posted by Crombell:

The partizan can potentially be a very powerful weapon, if you can get the timing right.

You see, spears have a higher "hit priority", than most other weapons (a rapier might have a higher priority, though I'm not sure). If both you and your opponent hit each other at the exact same time, then the opponent will take damage, but you'll get pushed away unharmed.

Fast-rolling isn't actually that big of a deal when you use it, as you'll be trying to make counter-stab/sweeps.

It's also quite viable as a two-handed weapon due to the more versatile moveset, and spears are honestly lacking in damage. I'd personally take advantage of that, and use it with a grass crest or something similar.

This is a very rough idea for a build, but it covers the most important parts, and there's enough flexibility to make it work with whatever you have at the moment:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2Fycmlvciw0NSw4LDQwLDMwLDQwLDExLDksOSwwLDAsMCw0Nyw1MCwyMSwzMSwxNTMsODQsMCwwLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLDEsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMA==

(You don't need havel's gauntlets/leggings, it's just the most efficient way to get more than 54 poise. Replace it with whatever you want to use, as long as you have more than 54 poise.)

Thank you. I think i will probably switch back and forth 1h and 2h when fighting. But referring back to my initial question, do you think i should infuse it as a pure melee dex character or should i just ascend it regularly

[Crombell]

Originally posted by FreshPrinceOfPine:

Originally posted by Crombell:

The partizan can potentially be a very powerful weapon, if you can get the timing right.

You see, spears have a higher "hit priority", than most other weapons (a rapier might have a higher priority, though I'm not sure). If both you and your opponent hit each other at the exact same time, then the opponent will take damage, but you'll get pushed away unharmed.

Fast-rolling isn't actually that big of a deal when you use it, as you'll be trying to make counter-stab/sweeps.

It's also quite viable as a two-handed weapon due to the more versatile moveset, and spears are honestly lacking in damage. I'd personally take advantage of that, and use it with a grass crest or something similar.

This is a very rough idea for a build, but it covers the most important parts, and there's enough flexibility to make it work with whatever you have at the moment:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=d2Fycmlvciw0NSw4LDQwLDMwLDQwLDExLDksOSwwLDAsMCw0Nyw1MCwyMSwzMSwxNTMsODQsMCwwLG5vcm1hbCxub3JtYWwsbm9ybWFsLG5vcm1hbCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLDEsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMA==

(You don't need havel's gauntlets/leggings, it's just the most efficient way to get more than 54 poise. Replace it with whatever you want to use, as long as you have more than 54 poise.)

Thank you. I think i will probably switch back and forth 1h and 2h when fighting. But referring back to my initial question, do you think i should infuse it as a pure melee dex character or should i just ascend it regularly

Sorry about the late reply, I had just gone to sleep.

Typically, the only upgrade paths (infusions) that are somewhat viable in PvP when you've above level 80, is divine, occult, magic and enchanted, as they scale with your stats.

Ordinary lightning, fire or chaos is just not gonna do enough damage. They'll barely scratch your opponents at the meta level of 120.

[axelmonster]

For spears stay normal path, do a quality build, and use leo ring. Or cheese it up and go faith for the dragonslayer spear.
I applaud your choice of the partizan, pretty underused weapon.
Go for trades or counters. I've hit 700+ with a winged spear +15 at 40/40 dex/str, SL 125.

As pure melee it's very seldom worth infusing your weapons. If you go high str/dex you will lose the benefit of your stat investment the second you make your weapon infused.
Ignoring fashion souls, I'd probably use something like this:
http://mmdks.com/6k72

EDIT: remember that the Leo Ring only increases PHYSICAL damage on counters. So if you use the dragonslayer spear or the moonlight spear especially it's not really worth it. Use havels or FaP for heavier armour instead, or use any of the spellcasting rings, like Bellowing dragon crest if you use sorceries or Dusk crown ring if you're feeling brave.

[FreshPrinceOfPine]

Thank you everyone for responding. It really helped

[Aust]

Leo ring is awesome, http://n41i.imgup.net/2014-08-305b53.jpg

[axelmonster]

Originally posted by raijin.ra:

Leo ring is awesome, http://n41i.imgup.net/2014-08-305b53.jpg

Leo ring is Love. Leo ring is Life. Worship the Leo ring, with all your soul and body!

[Aust]

in this print screen:claymore +15(gold pine resin) 46 str 40 dex